Biden says reoccupation of Gaza by Israel would be ‘big mistake’

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Morch said:

I don't think he's a great president, not even very good. But good enough. Way better than the the other guy.

 

Anyway, the Israeli public is in love. Not just the actual support. But the way he related to people on his visit. Many comparisons as to how Netanyhu comes out like a 'fake' in such situations. Plus, Israelis are a hugging breed....

I disagree. What president could have possibly done better in the face of an opposing party that was taken over by a fascist cult leader? He needs to be viewed in that context and I'm confident historians will concur. But I don't think he should run again. He can't overcome how he's superficially viewed -- the too old thing.

[Morch]

Just now, Jingthing said:

I disagree. What president could have possibly done better in the face of an opposing party that was taken over by a fascist cult leader? He needs to be viewed in that context and I'm confident historians will concur. But I don't think he should run again. He can't overcome how he's superficially viewed -- the too old thing.

We'll have to disagree on the former (and I'm not anti-Biden, just not a super-fan), and agree on the latter. Although who else? But that's maybe for a different topic.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

We'll have to disagree on the former (and I'm not anti-Biden, just not a super-fan), and agree on the latter. Although who else? But that's maybe for a different topic.

I'm not a super fan either.

I'm just seeing him in a different light now in view of his leadership on the wars.

He's the right person in that role at this time in history.

Edited October 22, 2023 by Jingthing

[placeholder]

17 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Biden tried to give/release $6B (or was it $8B?) to Iran, and has since tried to take it back/re-freeze it.

 

Why do you think that is if not because of the Jews?

 

 

So you think Biden is doing something because of the Jews?  Anti-semitic much?

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16 hours ago, Morch said:

I don't think he's a great president, not even very good. But good enough. Way better than the the other guy.

Actually, as far as the Middle East goes, a very strong argument can be advanced for Biden being a great president. Not for his disapproval of Netanyahu and his allies, which, frankly, didn't really amount to much. But rather for his push for alternate energy development. What better way to defang the various regimes in the mid East supporting terrorism and war than to deprive them of the rivers of cash derived from the export of fossil fuels? And force them to develop in an economically healthy way or full by the wayside?

[Neeranam]

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Biden is right.

Biden's leadership on both Ukraine and Israel have been his finest hours.

He's a very good if not great president.

Too bad about the optics of him looking so frail.

So it won't help him politically.

🤣 

[illisdean]

On 10/23/2023 at 4:12 AM, placeholder said:

What better way to defang the various regimes in the mid East supporting terrorism and war than to deprive them of the rivers of cash derived from the export of fossil fuels? And force them to develop in an economically healthy way or full by the wayside?

You mean like “how Biden’s policy enriched Iran…”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-bidens-policy-enriched-iran/ar-AA1hWHJa

 

Or the latest:

Having shut down huge swathes of U.S. energy production and watching energy prices rise ahead of elections, Biden is growing more desperate with his endless failures as re-election time approaches.
The SPR has already been emptied. Iran has been handed its money and oil revenues restored. Arab, KSA, oil producers have been insulted and alienated and aren't producing any extra oil now. Next for the thick as a brick Biden is to get oil prices down, but lifting sanctions on Venezuela's oil?
Anything but open the U.S. to more drilling. Which is exactly what Joe Biden has done:
Go read this in the Washington Post:
“The Biden administration on Wednesday eased oil, gas and gold sanctions against Venezuela a day after the government of President Nicolás Maduro and the U.S.-backed opposition agreed to terms for a competitive presidential election next year.
The Treasury Department issued a general license authorizing U.S. companies to engage in long-barred transactions primarily in the state-controlled energy sector. It said the license is to be valid for six months, to be renewed only if the authoritarian socialist government “meets its commitments” for elections and “with respect to those who are wrongfully detained.”
The agreement signed by the government and opposition politicians Tuesday, following years of on-again, off-again negotiations, could be a breakthrough in the South American nation’s stifling political stalemate. The Biden administration promised to consider suspending some sanctions in exchange for progress.
He's easing sanctions on one of the most revolting human-rights violating regimes in the world, a regime so blatantly undemocratic it cheated in everyone's faces during the 2019 elections. Other sanctions were placed on this country based on its drug-dealing and money-laundering activities, which includes shipping illegals into the U.S. with the drugs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/18/biden-eases-venezuela-oil-sanctions/

Biden though dumb as a back of rocks also seems up to no good with his “relationships” and links to Iran, Hamas, etc. All seems a little fishy based on his Iran record of Iranian appeasement & empowerment policies. Especially now with the current Iranian spy ring & classified information/material scandal with Biden’s Iran envoy Rob Malley recently stripped of his security clearance. Biden's playing with fire and he's far too stupid to know. He'll get US into another war soon.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-iran-envoy-rob-malley-compromised-classified-information-rep-michael-mccaul-says/ar-AA1i7YYF

Reference
https://www.voanews.com/a/iran-s-apparent-supply-of-combat-drones-to-venezuela-highlights-terrorism-risks/6476585.html
https://iranwire.com/en/features/69471/

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by illisdean

[illisdean]

On 10/23/2023 at 9:07 AM, Neeranam said:

🤣

Biden's finest hour,...in the ME?

 

“Worse, Sullivan even had the nerve to trash his predecessors and suggest that he, Biden and their team have righted all of their wrongs.”
“We recognized that Washington could no longer afford an undisciplined approach to the use of military force, even as we have mobilized a massive effort to defend Ukraine and stop Russian aggression,” he wrote. “The Biden administration understands the new realities of power. And that is why we will leave America stronger than we found it.”

According to Bidens red haired security genius, Biden has righted all the wrongs of Trump.
National security adviser Jake Sullivan’s embarrassing, 7,000-word drivel in Foreign Affairs magazine should leave no doubt.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/opinion/jake-sullivans-embarrassing-essay-shows-how-clueless-team-bidens-been-on-the-middle-east/

 

Last I heard Iran and/or it's proxies struck US infrastructure no less than 80 times on Biden's watch, what has US response been, maybe 4 or 5 strikes? Biden and his admin are weak and destructive while empowering their enemies, especially Iran.

[placeholder]

4 hours ago, illisdean said:

You mean like “how Biden’s policy enriched Iran…”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-bidens-policy-enriched-iran/ar-AA1hWHJa

 

Or the latest:

Having shut down huge swathes of U.S. energy production and watching energy prices rise ahead of elections, Biden is growing more desperate with his endless failures as re-election time approaches.
The SPR has already been emptied. Iran has been handed its money and oil revenues restored. Arab, KSA, oil producers have been insulted and alienated and aren't producing any extra oil now. Next for the thick as a brick Biden is to get oil prices down, but lifting sanctions on Venezuela's oil?
Anything but open the U.S. to more drilling. Which is exactly what Joe Biden has done:
Go read this in the Washington Post:
“The Biden administration on Wednesday eased oil, gas and gold sanctions against Venezuela a day after the government of President Nicolás Maduro and the U.S.-backed opposition agreed to terms for a competitive presidential election next year.
The Treasury Department issued a general license authorizing U.S. companies to engage in long-barred transactions primarily in the state-controlled energy sector. It said the license is to be valid for six months, to be renewed only if the authoritarian socialist government “meets its commitments” for elections and “with respect to those who are wrongfully detained.”
The agreement signed by the government and opposition politicians Tuesday, following years of on-again, off-again negotiations, could be a breakthrough in the South American nation’s stifling political stalemate. The Biden administration promised to consider suspending some sanctions in exchange for progress.
He's easing sanctions on one of the most revolting human-rights violating regimes in the world, a regime so blatantly undemocratic it cheated in everyone's faces during the 2019 elections. Other sanctions were placed on this country based on its drug-dealing and money-laundering activities, which includes shipping illegals into the U.S. with the drugs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/18/biden-eases-venezuela-oil-sanctions/

Biden though dumb as a back of rocks also seems up to no good with his “relationships” and links to Iran, Hamas, etc. All seems a little fishy based on his Iran record of Iranian appeasement & empowerment policies. Especially now with the current Iranian spy ring & classified information/material scandal with Biden’s Iran envoy Rob Malley recently stripped of his security clearance. Biden's playing with fire and he's far too stupid to know. He'll get US into another war soon.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-iran-envoy-rob-malley-compromised-classified-information-rep-michael-mccaul-says/ar-AA1i7YYF

Reference
https://www.voanews.com/a/iran-s-apparent-supply-of-combat-drones-to-venezuela-highlights-terrorism-risks/6476585.html
https://iranwire.com/en/features/69471/

 

 Please share with us what huge swathes of energy production have been shut down by the Biden administration:

 

U.S. crude oil exports reached a record high in first half of 2023

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=60622

 

U.S. exports of natural gas set a record high in the first half of 2023

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=60582#:~:text=The United States exported more,to our Natural Gas Monthly.

 

And the rest of what you wrote is utterly irrelevant. It should be obvious that the change won't happen overnight. 

[sirineou]

On 10/16/2023 at 10:55 AM, Social Media said:

President Biden said in a new interview that it would be a “big mistake” if Israel once again occupied Gaza

Which is why the US stop sending billions per year to poor Israel ,

[Morch]

46 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Which is why the US stop sending billions per year to poor Israel ,

 

What billions are sent to Israel every year?

[Rimmer]

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[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

What billions are sent to Israel every year?

researched , easy to do. Google is your friend 

 

"House approves nearly $14.5 billion in military aid for Israel. Biden vows to veto the GOP approach "

https://apnews.com/article/house-israel-aid-ukraine-republicans-biden-gaza-b7bfe528b12ac5954cfd5c034f11320d

[Morch]

32 minutes ago, sirineou said:

researched , easy to do. Google is your friend 

 

"House approves nearly $14.5 billion in military aid for Israel. Biden vows to veto the GOP approach "

https://apnews.com/article/house-israel-aid-ukraine-republicans-biden-gaza-b7bfe528b12ac5954cfd5c034f11320d

 

Your post said 'every year'.

The link provided is about this year, and funds have not been transferred/made available yet.

 

[impulse]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

What billions are sent to Israel every year?

Well over half the money that the U.S. spends each year on foreign military aid goes to Israel. Under a 10-year agreement that runs out next year, that country has been receiving more than $3 billion annually.

 

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/11/477693525/as-10-year-deal-nears-end-israel-urges-u-s-to-provide-more-arms-aid

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, impulse said:

Well over half the money that the U.S. spends each year on foreign military aid goes to Israel. Under a 10-year agreement that runs out next year, that country has been receiving more than $3 billion annually.

 

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/11/477693525/as-10-year-deal-nears-end-israel-urges-u-s-to-provide-more-arms-aid

 

The monies provided are (mostly) for buying USA made arms. So basically spent in the USA.

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Your post said 'every year'.

The link provided is about this year, and funds have not been transferred/made available yet.

 

Oh you want ne to provide for you  the budget  resolution for every year? 

What year do you want me to start with? or do you want me to go all the way back to 1948

while we are at it , would you like me to come over and tie your shoelaces? 

[Morch]

9 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Oh you want ne to provide for you  the budget  resolution for every year? 

What year do you want me to start with? or do you want me to go all the way back to 1948

while we are at it , would you like me to come over and tie your shoelaces? 

 

No, I want you to be aware of basic facts before posting claims.

 

You made a claim.

you can't back it up.

You throw a tantrum.

 

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

No, I want you to be aware of basic facts before posting claims.

 

You made a claim.

you can't back it up.

You throw a tantrum.

 

Claim was made, supported and correct.

That the monies are mainly spent in the US on arms doesn't invalidate the claim.

[Morch]

Just now, stevenl said:

Claim was made, supported and correct.

That the monies are mainly spent in the US on arms doesn't invalidate the claim.

 

Read the original post again - it's about money 'sent' to Israel.

That's not what this is about.

 

You and the other posters have issues with that, take them up with your representatives in DC.

Or with US firms actively pushing for this.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Read the original post again - it's about money 'sent' to Israel.

That's not what this is about.

 

You and the other posters have issues with that, take them up with your representatives in DC.

Or with US firms actively pushing for this.

Lol, of course it's sent to Israel. That they mainly spent it on weapons in the US doesn't mean it's not being sent. 

The 'issues I and others have with this' you made up, I said nothing of the kind.

[Morch]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Lol, of course it's sent to Israel. That they mainly spent it on weapons in the US doesn't mean it's not being sent. 

The 'issues I and others have with this' you made up, I said nothing of the kind.

 

Spin it whichever you like.

As for no issues, what was the point of the original comment, then?

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Spin it whichever you like.

As for no issues, what was the point of the original comment, then?

Ask the original poster.

The poster who was correct about monies given to Israel, no matter your deflection.

Edited November 5, 2023 by stevenl

[Morch]

35 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Ask the original poster.

The poster who was correct about monies given to Israel, no matter your deflection.

 

So on one post you answer for him, on the other you refer questions back to him.

About as consistent as expected.

 

He was not 'correct', and I was not deflecting, but pointing out his simplistic presentation is misleading.

[stevenl]

58 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

So on one post you answer for him, on the other you refer questions back to him.

About as consistent as expected.

 

He was not 'correct', and I was not deflecting, but pointing out his simplistic presentation is misleading.

I don't answer for him, so yes, questions are for the person who made the claim. A claim that was proven correct by impulse.

 

So yes, you're deflecting.

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't answer for him, so yes, questions are for the person who made the claim. A claim that was proven correct by impulse.

 

So yes, you're deflecting.

 

Yawn.

Jump in topics, comment on what other people might have meant, when confronted offer waffle.

It was  not 'proven' other than in your mind. You are not the arbiter of proofs.

Ever considered adding something of substance to these topics?

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Yawn.

Jump in topics, comment on what other people might have meant, when confronted offer waffle.

It was  not 'proven' other than in your mind. You are not the arbiter of proofs.

Ever considered adding something of substance to these topics?

The link provided proof.

And again your usual personal attacks if you're proven wrong.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

The link provided proof.

And again your usual personal attacks if you're proven wrong.

 

I don't see how. If anything, it touches on the point that the money is spent in the USA.

You may think about it as a subsidy of sorts, if that helps.

 

I wasn't proven wrong, and there was no personal attack.

I described what I think is one of your usual mode of interaction.

Asking you to consider something of substance to topics discussed is not a personal attack either.

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I don't see how. If anything, it touches on the point that the money is spent in the USA.

You may think about it as a subsidy of sorts, if that helps.

 

I wasn't proven wrong, and there was no personal attack.

I described what I think is one of your usual mode of interaction.

Asking you to consider something of substance to topics discussed is not a personal attack either.

Yawn.

[it is what it is]

 

bit late now biden. barn door horse bolted.