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Thaksin Underwent Surgery, Now Recuperating: Corrections Dept


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2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

I'm beginning to think that the convict is in much worse condition than we've been led to believe.

 

This is his second operation in ~ the last five weeks, according to press reports and his daughter.

 

It was reported ~ 19 Sep 2023, by the convict's daughter, that he had an operation "last week" (week of 10-16 Sep 2023?)

 

It is amazing that when people start questioning the legitimacy of his hospitalization, instead of incarceration, some medical issue or treatment arises.

 

Strange because he looked quite vibrant and healthy when he was on his jet heading into DMK.

 

 

 

 

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This guy wallows in so much BS that it was pointed out at the time, who knows when this was taken? There are two pictures with different watches. It was released on the day he flew.

 

Not saying you are wrong, just who knows. All this parade doesn’t convince many here, it’s not done him any good in my eyes, he’s lost all my faith. Do the locals care?

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2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

I'm beginning to think that the convict is in much worse condition than we've been led to believe.

 

This is his second operation in ~ the last five weeks, according to press reports and his daughter.

 

It was reported ~ 19 Sep 2023, by the convict's daughter, that he had an operation "last week" (week of 10-16 Sep 2023?)

 

It is amazing that when people start questioning the legitimacy of his hospitalization, instead of incarceration, some medical issue or treatment arises.

 

Strange because he looked quite vibrant and healthy when he was on his jet heading into DMK.

 

 

 

 

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Oh don't worry, no doubt those specialising in forensic diagnostics from undated photographs of a bloke in a comfy chair will be at full throttle!

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15 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Possibly a circumcision, they could attach his foreskin to his eyelids and give him some foresight!


totally off topic .. have you seen The man with a penis on his arm -  a channel 4 documentary? perhaps that’s what taksin has been doing for the last years. Growning it for a transplant on his shoulders, two heads are better than one. maybe he too burnt it whilst cooking.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10779775/The-Man-Penis-Arm-Man-47-lived-six-years-penis-attached-ARM.html

 

(the guy is a crackup, worth seeking out the full video.)

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5 hours ago, spermwhale said:

I'm starting to think that he timed his return to go to jail so he could get free healthcare for some stuff that needs taking care of and since he is going to be laid up, he might as well do it while serving his sentence until his early release. 

30 baht scheme?

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Official:  "Listen everyone. We've all got to earn our money. Thaksin has agreed to have an operation on some dead skin on his feet. The doctors have agreed to call this an "orthopedic operation" to fool the public into thinking it's serious. Thaksin will need to spend a long time recovering from the operation. This will take him to the end of November. Then we can say that the problem has occurred again so he needs another operation. This will take him to the beginning of next year. I think that he can get a pardon in February, so we might need to think up another fake operation in January. In the meantime, get out there and tell the media about poor Thaksin."

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41 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

An accusation made 12 years ago and reported in a London newspaper does not really provide conclusive proof.

 

I googled the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for "ICJ Thaksin". Nothing about investigating him - the Man from UNCLE seems to have given it a miss!

 

There was quite a lot about the ICJ ruling on the Preah Vihear temple dispute which you may recall did lead to a somewhat pathetic military attempt to occupy the temple, and a consequent rather embarrassing shoeing from a bunch of Cambodians with old AK47s and flip flops! That of course happened after the noble "Knights of the Eastern Tigers" and the "Sons of Heaven" had swooped in to rescue Thailand from the government that they were about to elect!

international human rights organisations denounced the "war" as one of the worst cases of human rights abuse in recent times. Eventually, the UN Commission on Human Rights asked the Thai government to explain some 23 cases of abuse from mass killings to deaths and disappearances of rights defenders, like lawyer Somchai Neelapaijit. No explanaion given

When the Independent Committee on the Casualties of the 2003 War on Drugs established by the Surayud Chulanont government published its report in 2008, it concluded that 1,372 of the people killed had no drug related records.


More importantly, the chair of the commission concluded that all 2,873 killings should be considered crimes against humanity. Since the day the report was published, not a single case has been pursued.

This culture of impunity is Thailands national shame.

 

The ethnic-religious conflict ignited by Thaksin's policies in the three deep South provinces has even more tragic and longer term consequences. Since 2004, 5,700 people have died, with 1,000 imprisoned, awaiting trial for treason, which carries the death penalty. In 2002 these three provinces had a mere three cases of violent crimes, in 2005 the number jumped to 1,500 cases.

The Tak Bai incident paints a dark stain across thailands national conscience. But thailands culture of immunity remains intact. Thailands leaders,  police,  armed forces continue to commit terrible acts of injustice with impunity.

"Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992."

Until we deconstruct this culture of impunity, Thailand's political development will remain trapped in the shadows of despair. Hang you head in shame Thailand
 

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1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

As repulsive as he and his actions may be, is Thaksin not entitled to the same medical information privileges as everyone else, i.e. it's confidential?  Would you post your medical records here, if asked?

He's still a rat and I rather doubr other inmates are given such 'entitlement's'. 

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I am confused, he goes for a procedure in the orthopaedic theatre but ends up on the neurosurgical intensive care unit. Either an orthopaedic procedure went badly wrong and he had neurological complications or he had a neurological procedure. Also to those demanding knowledge of what wrong with him, it is illegal to reveal a patient's diagnosis and personal details. There is no cover up, it is standard practice for ALL patients not to inform strangers or the general public of a patients condition.

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51 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

international human rights organisations denounced the "war" as one of the worst cases of human rights abuse in recent times. Eventually, the UN Commission on Human Rights asked the Thai government to explain some 23 cases of abuse from mass killings to deaths and disappearances of rights defenders, like lawyer Somchai Neelapaijit. No explanaion given

When the Independent Committee on the Casualties of the 2003 War on Drugs established by the Surayud Chulanont government published its report in 2008, it concluded that 1,372 of the people killed had no drug related records.


More importantly, the chair of the commission concluded that all 2,873 killings should be considered crimes against humanity. Since the day the report was published, not a single case has been pursued.

This culture of impunity is Thailands national shame.

 

The ethnic-religious conflict ignited by Thaksin's policies in the three deep South provinces has even more tragic and longer term consequences. Since 2004, 5,700 people have died, with 1,000 imprisoned, awaiting trial for treason, which carries the death penalty. In 2002 these three provinces had a mere three cases of violent crimes, in 2005 the number jumped to 1,500 cases.

The Tak Bai incident paints a dark stain across thailands national conscience. But thailands culture of immunity remains intact. Thailands leaders,  police,  armed forces continue to commit terrible acts of injustice with impunity.

"Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992."

Until we deconstruct this culture of impunity, Thailand's political development will remain trapped in the shadows of despair. Hang you head in shame Thailand
 

How many people did Thai police kill in the war on drugs versus the number who were killed by other drug gangs and drug bosses ?

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We are all entitled to privacy with regard to our medical records, but it is not uncommon for those in the public eye to have statements made which give a general indication of medical issues, without going into details. This seems to apply to World Leaders for example.

Dealing only with facts, I cannot now recall the exact date that he returned to Thailand, but he went into Prison the same day and was transferred by helicopter to the Police Hospital the same night.

By 23 September Paetongtarn said that he had had an operation, without giving the date.

There was a photograph of him being wheeled in a bed, but no sign of any IV or monitoring would would normally be visible for a patient in an emergency situation.

It was reported that he had an MRI, which is normally used to examine tissue other than bone.

It is now reported that he had an orthopaedic operation, without giving a date, so maybe the the original one? This does not link to the MI.

It is reported that he is, or has been, in NICU, which seems very strange for an orthopaedic operation.

A recovery period of approaching 60 days, not knowing the exact operation date, is extremely unusual, even for cardiothoracic surgery.

 

With regard to some of the other issues that have been mentioned, if the over 2,000 killings related to the drug trade were internal to the drugs trade, then they were murders and needed to be investigated as such. I was here at the time and there was no record of any such attempt. As far as his background and corruption are concerned, I do not need to rely upon hearsay or biassed reporting I had first hand experience of it, as well as close secondhand experience, so am speaking from a position of what I consider to be facts.

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5 hours ago, Muhendis said:

In an orthopaedic operating room it would most likely be bones. He was in there for 5 hours. Big operation? 

"is now recuperating in the Neurosurgical Intensive Care Unit (NICU)"

 

Could he have had a lobotomy? That would explain the pardon.

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Nothing to do with this pathological liar is believable, except that he was guilty of corruption, as charged, despite his protestations of innocence before he was forced to admit to his crimes and express remorse for the thefts to qualify for a Royal pardon. 

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3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

As repulsive as he and his actions may be, is Thaksin not entitled to the same medical information privileges as everyone else, i.e. it's confidential?  Would you post your medical records here, if asked?

He's still a rat and I rather doubr other inmates are given such 'entitlement's'. 

You're entitled to your opinion of him but you're wrong about other inmates not receiving hospital treatment outside of the Corrections Department.   This is evidenced by the escape of a prisoner from a hospital on Sunday where he had been taken for dental treatment a few days earlier as reported.  

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2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well let's be honest, would you take anything that valuable with you when surrendering to custody?

 

But it's obvious from the events since his aircraft touched down that his 'surrender to authorities' was/is not 'standard'. 

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57 minutes ago, Dr B said:

We are all entitled to privacy with regard to our medical records, but it is not uncommon for those in the public eye to have statements made which give a general indication of medical issues, without going into details. This seems to apply to World Leaders for example.

Dealing only with facts, I cannot now recall the exact date that he returned to Thailand, but he went into Prison the same day and was transferred by helicopter to the Police Hospital the same night.

By 23 September Paetongtarn said that he had had an operation, without giving the date.

There was a photograph of him being wheeled in a bed, but no sign of any IV or monitoring would would normally be visible for a patient in an emergency situation.

It was reported that he had an MRI, which is normally used to examine tissue other than bone.

It is now reported that he had an orthopaedic operation, without giving a date, so maybe the the original one? This does not link to the MI.

It is reported that he is, or has been, in NICU, which seems very strange for an orthopaedic operation.

A recovery period of approaching 60 days, not knowing the exact operation date, is extremely unusual, even for cardiothoracic surgery.

 

With regard to some of the other issues that have been mentioned, if the over 2,000 killings related to the drug trade were internal to the drugs trade, then they were murders and needed to be investigated as such. I was here at the time and there was no record of any such attempt. As far as his background and corruption are concerned, I do not need to rely upon hearsay or biassed reporting I had first hand experience of it, as well as close secondhand experience, so am speaking from a position of what I consider to be facts.

 

MRI - Cancer.

Orthopedic oncology - Bone Cancer.

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