Chomper Higgot Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Whenever Brown's name comes up I remember the 6 BILLION quid he wasted on the NHS which was used for fancy buildings and more managers. Such a shame. He deserved his dumping in the election. Don't hear much about him now. Perhaps he is hiding from the outraged populace. Back when waiting lists were reduced to days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 12 hours ago, RayC said: There is no perfect electoral system. There are many problems with PR, but at least it has the benefit of ensuring that all individual votes matter to some extent. The main benefit claimed for a FPTP system is that it delivers 'strong' government. The governance of the UK since 2016 suggests otherwise. We will have to agree to disagree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: We will have to agree to disagree on that. Yes, after all why would you want to give everyone a vote that counts when you know best already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 "I am the heir to Blair" does not appear in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) On 10/28/2023 at 3:01 PM, RayC said: There is no perfect electoral system. There are many problems with PR, but at least it has the benefit of ensuring that all individual votes matter to some extent. The main benefit claimed for a FPTP system is that it delivers 'strong' government. The governance of the UK since 2016 suggests otherwise. The illusion of strength may be an attraction but the reality is that the Johnson government was handed an 80 seat majority with only 40% of the votes. Democracy is not served by FPTP. Edited October 29, 2023 by RuamRudy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 10:55 AM, thaibeachlovers said: You don't want PR. It's in NZ and I wish it wasn't, as it was why that awful woman was able to win and make my life <deleted>. I think first past the post is way better. Lol so now PR is to blame for your bad life choices? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 20 hours ago, stevenl said: Yes, after all why would you want to give everyone a vote that counts when you know best already. All it does is allow parties a majority don't want as the government the opportunity to become the government, speaking as someone that had 6 years of a government unwanted by a majority of voters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JayClay said: Lol so now PR is to blame for your bad life choices? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. Do you realise how ridiculous your post is? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 10 hours ago, RuamRudy said: The illusion of strength may be an attraction but the reality is that the Johnson government was handed an 80 seat majority with only 40% of the votes. Democracy is not served by FPTP. Democracy, IMO, is an illusion. I have never in my lifetime been in an actual democracy. "Democracy", IMO, is a buzz word used by those that control our world to fool the peasants that they actually have some say in how they are governed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 hours ago, Danderman123 said: "I am the heir to Blair" does not appear in the OP. Is the title of the OP not part of the OP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, JayClay said: Lol so now PR is to blame for your bad life choices? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. It’s always somebody else’s fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayClay Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, JayClay said: Lol so now PR is to blame for your bad life choices? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Do you realise how ridiculous your post is? No I don't. I welcome an explanation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Is the title of the OP not part of the OP? It's not in the article cited by the OP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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