Trump leads Biden in 5 key battleground states: poll

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, MrPancake said:

 

The US has had the highest inflation of all G7 countries. If you can't read a graph, it's not my problem.

 

OPEP doesn't make the price for US oil 😄😄

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/30398/inflation-rates-in-g7-countries/

 

 

[MrPancake]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.statista.com/chart/30398/inflation-rates-in-g7-countries/

 

 

 

Reposting the same graph 20 times is pointless.

Cherry picking your data is too.

Record 10% inflation in the US a couple of month ago.

Biden and the fed have been terrible for poor people.

Edited November 7, 2023 by MrPancake

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, MrPancake said:

 

Reposting the same graph 20 times is pointless.

Cherry picking your data is too.

Record 10% inflation in the US a couple of month ago.

Biden and the fed have been terrible for poor people.

 A new graph for you:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

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An ominous poll for Democrats, and what it says about a Biden alternative

The poll shows Biden trailing Trump by four percentage points in key swing states, but an unnamed Democrat leading by eight

https://archive.ph/qWnAS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/06/an-ominous-poll-democrats-what-it-says-about-biden-alternative/

Edited November 7, 2023 by placeholder

[MrPancake]

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 A new graph for you:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

 

Finally some honesty. Thanks.

Too much spending, too much f'ing around with global supply chains.

And this is for now. Might go back up again. Don't see how this could have been good for poor people...

[JonnyF]

Worrying news for Democrats.

 

They better get some more legal cases going pronto. If they can't beat him at the polls, they're going to need more help from the justice legal system. 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, MrPancake said:

Biden has been a terrible leader.

Sad but no wonder Trump is set to become the next president.

I don't understand democrats.

They knew they had to do something for those they call the deplorables.

But they chose the profit / corporate path instead.

Moronic...

Had they put up Mrs Obama a sure win, but they put up Clinton. Even Bernie had a better chance of winning than her IMO.

Now they put up Joe, who is so blatantly incapable of lasting another 4 years ( I'll be surprised if he's still POTUS to hand over to Trump ). Is it blind hope, or is that they really don't have anyone better? I doubt they even consider Harris as a winner.

[pomchop]

13 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Sadly, it looks like Joe's cognitive faculties left the building with Elvis.

maybe joe is off to meet trump in iowa or maybe even south dakota where trump apparently thought he had landed for the iowa

primary?

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1 hour ago, MrPancake said:

 

Finally some honesty. Thanks.

Too much spending, too much f'ing around with global supply chains.

And this is for now. Might go back up again. Don't see how this could have been good for poor people...

What don't you understand that virtually the entire was afflicted with inflation following the covid pandemic? Is that Joe Biden's fault?  Or that the United States is doing far better than the other major economically developed nations an most of the lesser ones too? If you're claiming that the inflation is Biden's fault, then shouldn't he get credit for the faster pace of the recovery, too?  The only major nation that isn't suffering from inflation is China and their economy is a mess.

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Worrying news for Democrats.

 

They better get some more legal cases going pronto. If they can't beat him at the polls, they're going to need more help from the justice legal system. 

More of the "persecuting trump" BS....be sure and send your theory to the vast majority of witnesses who are testifying against trump in the persecution....you know all those life long republicans who voted for trump and wanted him to win that somehow those crafty dems convinced to go on the stand under oath (and likely receive death threats)  and tell the various crimes that they personally saw and heard trump commit as they were in the room.

 

   But go ahead and blame the "legal" system for having the nerve to actually investigate probable crimes when there are piles upon piles of documents, videos, audios all backed up by the testimony of trumper REPUBLICANS as to a wide range of crimes found by four or more grand juries in four different jurisdictions to have probable cause that crimes were committed. 

 

The great trump witch hunt brought to you by REPUBLICANS.  Doesn't exactly fit with the fox news narrative now does it?

[nauseus]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Well Gollie gee were do we start?how about getting infrastructure done?or lower drug prices?or seeding the domestic manufacturing of computer chips?or standing tall with labor even picketing?or standing shoulder to shoulder with our allies?how about bringing stability to the world order?or for less than 6% of our defense budget humiliating that mass murdering evil thug Putin bankrupting his economy and exposing his military as a paper tiger assisting our Allie’s the Ukrainians defend their sovereignty and existence at their request I might add.he’s also standing by his son in his battle for sobriety as any decent father would do.is that enough?there’s lots and lots more not that it would make any difference to some humm?that’s why it’s hard for me to give any credence to many posters it’s so obvious…..ah well….and so it goes…..

I got to the "bringing stability to the world order" bit and lost some coffee down my shirt. Yes, that's enough.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 A new graph for you:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

 

Uh oh! And all those rate hikes too. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

More of the "persecuting trump" BS....be sure and send your theory to the vast majority of witnesses who are testifying against trump in the persecution....you know all those life long republicans who voted for trump and wanted him to win that somehow those crafty dems convinced to go on the stand under oath (and likely receive death threats)  and tell the various crimes that they personally saw and heard trump commit as they were in the room.

 

   But go ahead and blame the "legal" system for having the nerve to actually investigate probable crimes when there are piles upon piles of documents, videos, audios all backed up by the testimony of trumper REPUBLICANS as to a wide range of crimes found by four or more grand juries in four different jurisdictions to have probable cause that crimes were committed. 

 

The great trump witch hunt brought to you by REPUBLICANS.  Doesn't exactly fit with the fox news narrative now does it?

 

This great trump witch hunt was instigated by so-called Democrats, who have had to resort to enrolling RINOS for help, because their cases are so weak otherwise.

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

This great trump witch hunt was instigated by so-called Democrats, who have had to resort to enrolling RINOS for help, because their cases are so weak otherwise.

You are really saying that the legal cases against Trump are weak without witnesses? That is your revelation of the day?

 

If the cases are so weak, why does Trump want to delay the trials?

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds says Trump can’t win in 2024 as she endorses Ron DeSantis

[xylophone]

14 hours ago, candide said:

Lowest inflation in G7, record low unemployment level, highest GDP growth in G7 compared to pre-pandemic level, record energy production and exports, just to name a few...

 

It's not hard to come to the conclusion, as trump himself has said, that he prefers his supporters to be poorly educated and from what I've seen on this thread and others, he has got a great following in that regard.

 

Not only that, they really latch onto the recent post which was taken from the New York Times, and said (no don't laugh, please) "lively youthful athletic Trump, with his sharp wit, moral ethics, respect for the law, respect for the military, champion of family values, who commands respect from our allies and has proven to put our country before himself."

 

The NYT is having a joke on the poorly educated trump supporters, and has done so by this quote above, which absolutely reeks of sarcasm, but the trump followers can't see this of course. LOL

 

If you add to that the fact that the trump supporters still believe the election was stolen and scour any right-leaning publication/website looking for anything to which they can apply their confirmation bias, it soon becomes evident that he and his bunch of clowns have got nothing, and I sincerely hope he is locked away in the very near future.

 

There is a solution to this, inasmuch as if his supporters keep inundating threads with their rubbish, then let them do so and don't answer any of it, so in the end they will be "peeing in their own pockets" as the saying goes, and will strengthen their resolve to believe the rubbish, which works well for us intelligent folk here. 

 

[pomchop]

35 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

This great trump witch hunt was instigated by so-called Democrats, who have had to resort to enrolling RINOS for help, because their cases are so weak otherwise.

Yes i am sure that the dems convinced people like the GA sec of state to do an investigation and then announce there was NO FRAUD in Georgia.  But i guess somehow the dems "enrolled" him and many other republican state officials to investigate and then publicly state over and over there was no evidence of fraud and the only fraud was trump and his big lie.  Also probably were able to convince a right wing supreme court to also shoot down their fraud claims for Pa. and 60 judges many appointed by trump to reject 60 claims....

 

Those incompetent weak dems sure somehow managed to manipulate all of these life long trump voting republicans to risk death threats and worse to tell the truth.  And somehow those same dems must have convinced trump to haul classified info away and then lie over and over , try and hide the docs , try to get surveillance tapes erased and then share classified secrets with his rich buddies to impress them.  Probably they also arranged for trump to claim an apt he lived in was three times the size it actually is.  Some might say it was the BESTEST and most PERFECT witch hunt EVER.

 

Wow i am thinking if the dems were really that good at orchestrating the giant witch hunt by enlisting all these republicans maybe they are lot smarter than perfect donnie and his Big Lie maga bunch.

[Danderman123]

36 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Yes i am sure that the dems convinced people like the GA sec of state to do an investigation and then announce there was NO FRAUD in Georgia.  But i guess somehow the dems "enrolled" him and many other republican state officials to investigate and then publicly state over and over there was no evidence of fraud and the only fraud was trump and his big lie.  Also probably were able to convince a right wing supreme court to also shoot down their fraud claims for Pa. and 60 judges many appointed by trump to reject 60 claims....

 

Those incompetent weak dems sure somehow managed to manipulate all of these life long trump voting republicans to risk death threats and worse to tell the truth.  And somehow those same dems must have convinced trump to haul classified info away and then lie over and over , try and hide the docs , try to get surveillance tapes erased and then share classified secrets with his rich buddies to impress them.  Probably they also arranged for trump to claim an apt he lived in was three times the size it actually is.  Some might say it was the BESTEST and most PERFECT witch hunt EVER.

 

Wow i am thinking if the dems were really that good at orchestrating the giant witch hunt by enlisting all these republicans maybe they are lot smarter than perfect donnie and his Big Lie maga bunch.

I don't think any Trump fan here will admit that they believe Rudy and Sidney's "stollen election" lies. It's like the War in Iraq, they don't want to talk about it any more.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Danderman123

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

This great trump witch hunt was instigated by so-called Democrats, who have had to resort to enrolling RINOS for help, because their cases are so weak otherwise.

Sure. The one where Trump refused to turn documents over to the National Archives when they were requested was already a clear violation of the law. Despite which, rather than call in the Justice Dept the National Archives negotiated with Trump and his lawyers for months. He was treated far more indulgently than he had any right to expect. It was only when the National Archives had reason to believe that Trump had lied when he claimed he had turned over all the documents, and, what's worse, that he had retained classified documents, did the National Archives call in the Justice Dept.

[nauseus]

You guys have been so quiet recently but now the bin is open. Of course it couldn't last.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

This great trump witch hunt was instigated by so-called Democrats, who have had to resort to enrolling RINOS for help, because their cases are so weak otherwise.

Seems certain posters don't understand that many Republicans hate Trump as much as any Democrat. When he railed against the "swamp" he was including the GOP.

[thaibeachlovers]

56 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I don't think any Trump fan here will admit that they believe Rudy and Sidney's "stollen election" lies. It's like the War in Iraq, they don't want to talk about it any more.

and some of us "Trump fans" don't know whether or not it was stolen, so not having any desire to talk about it.

Talking about Iraq would only be in a thread about Iraq, and I haven't seen any of those recently.

Perhaps you should start one so we can talk about it.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

 

It's not hard to come to the conclusion, as trump himself has said, that he prefers his supporters to be poorly educated and from what I've seen on this thread and others, he has got a great following in that regard.

 

Not only that, they really latch onto the recent post which was taken from the New York Times, and said (no don't laugh, please) "lively youthful athletic Trump, with his sharp wit, moral ethics, respect for the law, respect for the military, champion of family values, who commands respect from our allies and has proven to put our country before himself."

 

The NYT is having a joke on the poorly educated trump supporters, and has done so by this quote above, which absolutely reeks of sarcasm, but the trump followers can't see this of course. LOL

 

If you add to that the fact that the trump supporters still believe the election was stolen and scour any right-leaning publication/website looking for anything to which they can apply their confirmation bias, it soon becomes evident that he and his bunch of clowns have got nothing, and I sincerely hope he is locked away in the very near future.

 

There is a solution to this, inasmuch as if his supporters keep inundating threads with their rubbish, then let them do so and don't answer any of it, so in the end they will be "peeing in their own pockets" as the saying goes, and will strengthen their resolve to believe the rubbish, which works well for us intelligent folk here. 

 

If I hadn't already wanted Trump to win, I would after reading that post where you disparage millions of Americans.

That would surely be the best revenge.

[Danderman123]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and some of us "Trump fans" don't know whether or not it was stolen, so not having any desire to talk about it.

Talking about Iraq would only be in a thread about Iraq, and I haven't seen any of those recently.

Perhaps you should start one so we can talk about it.

You "don't know" if the 2020 election was stolen?

 

You "don't know" if Rudy and Sidney were lying? You are really not sure?

[pomchop]

22 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You "don't know" if the 2020 election was stolen?

 

You "don't know" if Rudy and Sidney were lying? You are really not sure?

Going on three years and in spite of all the whining and bitching and lie after lie still not a single shred of evidence presented that would prove any fraud anywhere near to be enough to overturn the election. And yet the big lie is still apparently believed by millions of republicans.  How very sad that grown adult people seem incapable of thinking for themselves and calling BS when they see it.

 

MAGA does not seem capable of understanding that making a bunch of wild claims and promoting conspiracy theories with zero evidence to support them proves only how delusional they are.

 

I have said it over and over to trumpers:  If you have any credible evidence then by all means lay it out and lets take a look at it....if indeed it is credible then you will be a major star on fox news and trump no doubt would pin the medal of honor on you and you can brag about how you found the evidence that nobody else could find, write a book, and be filthy rich.  Oh...what's that?  You have no evidence?  Just babbling a bunch of BS with zero evidence?  Got it.

Edited November 7, 2023 by pomchop

[Danderman123]

Election fraud is proven at the precinct level. Both parties supply poll watchers at the precinct level, and carefully monitor who votes and the vote results, including absentee ballot numbers.

 

There are virtually no cases of irregularities being reported at the precinct level in 2020, which is a sure sign that the election was not "stollen".

 

I would be thrilled to go into this in detail with any Trump fan who doesn't understand this.

[candide]

6 hours ago, MrPancake said:

 

The US has had the highest inflation of all G7 countries. If you can't read a graph, it's not my problem.

 

OPEP doesn't make the price for US oil 😄😄

 

It's not an energy problem that explains inflation in the US. Period.

This is becoming pathetic, and "period" is not a factual argument.

I post below the graph from the FT again:

It shows that, after the initial post-pandemic surge, the U.S. (pink line) has been able to tackle inflation and reached one of the lowest level of inflation in G7. I am not claiming this is all due to the government, but the other G7 countries or the Eurozone also had central banks increasing interest rates.

https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d81b2

Actually, the most remarkable is not so much the reduction of inflation itself, but the fact that it has been reached while achieving  a stronger GDP growth than other G7 countries (see graph).

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

As to the US being the main oil price maker and not the OPEC, it is simply ridiculous.

 

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC, /ˈoʊpɛk/ OH-pek) is an organization enabling the co-operation of leading oil-producing countries in order to collectively influence the global oil market and maximize profit. It was founded on 14 September 1960 in Baghdad by the first five members (Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela). The 13 member countries account for an estimated 30 percent of global oil production.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC

 

[candide]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 A new graph for you:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

And some people may be claiming It's not related to global oil prices....

https://www.statista.com/statistics/326017/weekly-crude-oil-prices/

[nauseus]

50 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Election fraud is proven at the precinct level. Both parties supply poll watchers at the precinct level, and carefully monitor who votes and the vote results, including absentee ballot numbers.

 

There are virtually no cases of irregularities being reported at the precinct level in 2020, which is a sure sign that the election was not "stollen".

 

I would be thrilled to go into this in detail with any Trump fan who doesn't understand this.

 

There were plenty of complaints about irregularities before, during and after the vote, especially in swing states. Vote count monitoring was one of these problems mentioned, where Republican observers were allegedly denied close access to the counting by (Democratic) poll center "officials".

 

So bipartisan and careful monitoring was, reportedly, not always possible. Some of these complaints were heard in subsequent state senate hearings but it seems that was as far as they got. Some of those hearings were accessible on the internet at the time but it's hard to find much of anything like that anymore - just like everything else.

 

Swamp Rules. OK?

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

There were plenty of complaints about irregularities before, during and after the vote, especially in swing states. Vote count monitoring was one of these problems mentioned, where Republican observers were allegedly denied close access to the counting by (Democratic) poll center "officials".

 

So bipartisan and careful monitoring was, reportedly, not always possible. Some of these complaints were heard in subsequent state senate hearings but it seems that was as far as they got. Some of those hearings were accessible on the internet at the time but it's hard to find much of anything like that anymore - just like everything else.

 

Swamp Rules. OK?

Nope.

 

Let's go over this again. I am referring to precinct level poll monitoring.

 

You are referencing reports from political types in election centers in big cities. These were all dismissed as bullsh*t a long time ago.

 

Please provide some precinct level vote fraud reports. That's where vote fraud is found.