1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Proud of you for bravely ignoring the COVID vaccine guidance of virtually every major public health and medical organization around the world...

 

“Given that COVID-19 infections, hospitalizations and deaths continue to impact the U.S. population and an increase in infections is expected this fall and winter, the updated COVID-19 vaccines increase the immune response against the currently circulating variants,” said Sandra Fryhofer, MD, an Atlanta general internist and immediate past chair of the AMA Board of Trustees."

 

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/updated-covid-19-vaccine-here-what-physicians-need-know

 

 

 

Thank you. I am rather proud of myself, too. Nothing like a good immune system to fight off a flu type bug. 

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Thank you. I am rather proud of myself, too. Nothing like a good immune system to fight off a flu type bug. 

 

 

D8ckhead!

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Global COVID-19 Death Toll May Be Triple the Reported Deaths

 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Biostatistics Unit suggests that roughly 127,500 deaths were prevented

 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

COVID vaccines saved at least 1 million lives in Europe, experts estimate

 

"May", "suggests", and "estimate" are not scientific terms. If I drop a hammer, it "will" fall to the ground.

 

Once you notice the narrative, you can't unnotice it. 

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The key to the above report is the phrase at the end of the first paragraph -- "until an investigation is completed."

 

I wonder how long and how big a team of investigators would need to figure it out lol. Clown world with a brainwashed population

2 hours ago, frantick said:

"May", "suggests", and "estimate" are not scientific terms. If I drop a hammer, it "will" fall to the ground.

 

Once you notice the narrative, you can't unnotice it. 

 

Indeed. Just like the obsession with meaningless (or at least context-lite) headline-grabbing percentages: "Research finds that X leads to 150% increase in risk of Y", without making clear that risk of Y (cancer, burglary, being punched by a dwarf, whatever) to the 'average person' is 1 in a million.

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The current COVID vaccines REDUCE the likelihood of a vaccinated person contracting the virus and thus spreading the virus... especially in the couple months post-vaccination.

 

Given how readily the latest variants SPREAD, these vaccines don't seem to be doing a particularly good job on the 'ol reducing likelihood of contraction front.

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thank you. I am rather proud of myself, too. Nothing like a good immune system to fight off a flu type bug. 

 

Maybe you should catch up on just what the current differences are between what you've previously called the mild version of COVID and the current version of the flu. In general, you're far far far better off to catch the flu -- and always have been -- than to catch COVID, even the current version, as illustrated below:

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/illness-severity.html

 

 

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Given how readily the latest variants SPREAD, these vaccines don't seem to be doing a particularly good job on the 'ol reducing likelihood of contraction front.

 

If the COVID vaccines prevent 10 or 20 or 30% of recipients from contracting COVID for some months post vaccination, that's 10 or 20 or 30% fewer people to potentially become infected / sick and capable of spreading the virus to others.... 

 

Any reduction is better than no reduction.

 

Though the prevention levels for serious COVID illness/hospitalization from the vaccines are considerably higher than the example figures I used above for merely preventing any infection.

 

For the recent bivalent COVID vaccines from fall 2022 to spring 2023 in the U.S.:

 

"In this multistate analysis of 85,075 hospitalizations of persons with COVID-19–like illness, bivalent doses were 62% effective among adults without immunocompromising conditions...in preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalization during the first 7–59 days after vaccination.

 

Waning was evident in adults without immunocompromising conditions from 60–179 days (2–6 months) after vaccination. VE was more sustained against critical illness (50% at 120–179 days after vaccination) in adults without immunocompromising conditions, which suggests that bivalent vaccines provide durable protection against the most severe outcomes from COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7221a3.htm

 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

For the recent bivalent COVID vaccines from fall 2022 to spring 2023 in the U.S.:

 

"In this multistate analysis of 85,075 hospitalizations of persons with COVID-19–like illness, bivalent doses were 62% effective among adults without immunocompromising conditions...in preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalization during the first 7–59 days after vaccination.

 

Waning was evident in adults without immunocompromising conditions from 60–179 days (2–6 months) after vaccination. VE was more sustained against critical illness (50% at 120–179 days after vaccination) in adults without immunocompromising conditions, which suggests that bivalent vaccines provide durable protection against the most severe outcomes from COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7221a3.htm

 

Ah, some good 'ol cherry picking of stats. I find the whole topic of Covid rather tedious these days, but it does amuse when folk cherry pick like this. I can do the same - here's a bit from the very same CDC study you've dug up:

 

"Among adults aged ≥18 years without immunocompromising conditions, bivalent booster vaccine effectiveness (VE) against COVID-19–associated hospitalization declined from 62% at 7–59 days postvaccination to 24% at 120–179 days compared with VE among unvaccinated adults. Among immunocompromised adults, lower bivalent booster VE was observed."

 

So ... basically, for healthy adults, by 4 months post vaccination the average level of protection against hospitalisation is just 24% "better" than for someone unvaccinated of the same age.

 

It's a meaningless figure anyway because it lumps together everyone above the age of 18. People under the age of 50 are, as every study shows, in any case at lower risk of serious outcomes.

 

If a healthy 25 year old has a 1:5,000 or whatever risk of hospitalisation, a 24% increase to that risk is minimal.

 

And if you're immunocompromised, according to this CDC study vaccine effectiveness is even worse! 

 

In order to maintain a reasonable level of protection it implies the need for a vaccination every few months. That's madness, especially when there is still no clear understanding of what long-term repeated Covid vaccinations may do to the immune system.

 

 

 

15 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Maybe you should catch up on just what the current differences are between what you've previously called the mild version of COVID and the current version of the flu. In general, you're far far far better off to catch the flu -- and always have been -- than to catch COVID, even the current version, as illustrated below:

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/illness-severity.html

 

 

I have caught covid. It was a nothing burger. Sure, it takes some people out. Many things do. Just not quite as focused on it, or worried about it, as you are. 

By all means anybody who hasn't done any research and still thinks these mRNA vaccines are "safe and effective".

Get boosted and double and triple and quadruple boosted if it takes you that long to figure out that these are damaging to many peoples health. This is what you call survival of the fittest. Those stupid enough to believe these vaccines aren't causing harm, Your on the wrong side of history

 

A statement from the former CEO of one of Singapore largest health Insurance company and presidential candidate the latest in a long long long line of people speaking out against these jabs that never gets airtime. 

 

This comes not long after the Texas attorney general Paxton has initiated proceeding to sue Pfizer over its false and misleading covid policies. Next few years should be "fun" (at least for the "anti-vaxxers") when all this corruption and health issues comes to a head.

 

For those who are considering getting the latest COVID vaccine, it is free in Thailand. I have just been to our local state hospital where I was informed of this. Of course, private hospitals will make you pay.