Snake I found in my rabbits cage ......... ID please.

[BritManToo]

So last night around 9pm my 'queen' rabbit started stamping her feet.

Went out and found this monster in her nighttime enclosure.

Not sure if it was a danger to her or my kids, but it got the chop.

A bit strange looking, not sure what snake is, or if it's even a snake.

 

 

[MartinL]

Sunbeam snake. Not venomous. Might bite - as will any cornered animal - but harmless to you, probably to adult rabbits too. Sad you saw fit to kill it :-(

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, MartinL said:

Sunbeam snake. Not venomous. Might bite - as will any cornered animal - but harmless to you, probably to adult rabbits too. Sad you saw fit to kill it :-(

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

I agree with martin L , that is sad, but I also agree with you.

I also don' t know much about snakes, so when it comes to me and mine, i'd rather err on the side of caution. 

I remember reading some place that Chickens and rabbits are snake magnets, not sure how true it is . but I am not willing to test it either. 

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I agree with martin L , that is sad, but I also agree with you.

I also don' t know much about snakes, so when it comes to me and mine, i'd rather err on the side of caution. 

I remember reading some place that Chickens and rabbits are snake magnets, not sure how true it is . but I am not willing to test it either. 

My 'boss' rabbit definitely saw it as a threat, otherwise she wouldn't have called me for help.

Hard to tell what any snake is in the dark.

[novacova]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

Get a couple of mongoose, they like to kill snakes 

[KhunLA]

29 minutes ago, MartinL said:

Sunbeam snake. Not venomous. Might bite - as will any cornered animal - but harmless to you, probably to adult rabbits too. Sad you saw fit to kill it :-(

If I don't know what it is, and in the yard, then it won't end well for the snake.  Wife, dog & myself have no desire to die or lose a limb if bitten.

26 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

Agree, unless you can positively ID the snake, and definitely not a risk.

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

Get a couple of mongoose, they like to kill snakes 

 

Guinea Fowl are pretty good snake managers too, and, unlike mongooses, they lay eggs

[Reginald Prewster]

Sunbeam snakes (Xenopeltis unicolor)  I have seen about 20 on my farm.

Harmless even if you got close up. 

Mostly seen in the early morning when they return and hide in some earth holes over the day. 

 

Beside spitting Cobras snakes are generally welcome on my farm.

Only if they are too big and posing a risk we use our sling catcher and release them in a more suitable location.

 

Good managed farms have no rat problem, the are only lacking snakes. 

I recommend to join a snake group and learn which could be slithering around your house. 

Then you know them on first sight and decide "good ones in and bad ones out."

[cranki]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

I suggest joining some snake groups in Thailand, excellent sources of information and educate yourself.....

There are specific groups for specific regions.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, cranki said:

I suggest joining some snake groups in Thailand, excellent sources of information and educate yourself.....

There are specific groups for specific regions.

No need to educate myself, I'm ok killing garden pests.

[cranki]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No need to educate myself, I'm ok killing garden pests.

Yeah...until you attempt to kill a venomous one and get bit....up to you.

[radiochaser]

On 12/8/2023 at 8:04 PM, KhunLA said:

If I don't know what it is, and in the yard, then it won't end well for the snake.  Wife, dog & myself have no desire to die or lose a limb if bitten.

Agree, unless you can positively ID the snake, and definitely not a risk.

I found a gray snake in my Pennsylvania yard that I could not identify.   I played around with it a little bit until it became too aggressive trying to bite me, so I left it alone and it crawled off into the brush.   

Later I found out it was  a timber rattlesnake.   What threw me off on identifying was no rattles.    Too young to have them I guess.  

[Photoguy21]

Why kill it? It is just doing what a snake will do.

[oxo1947]

On 12/9/2023 at 2:14 PM, BritManToo said:

No need to educate myself, I'm ok killing garden pests.

 

Tend to agree---I live on an estate with a lot of small kids running around, playing in the grass , near water---- when its hot they (snakes) seem to seek out ponds, water holes etc

 

I brought this from Lazada ---get any size you want---really works out well, only about 130 baht--I have had to kill 3.....were they poisonous,?

 

I dont know , Never got around to asking them.................

 

[HighPriority]

On 12/9/2023 at 4:44 PM, BritManToo said:

No need to educate myself, I'm ok killing garden pests.

Yeah, I'm a bit the same with people.

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, oxo1947 said:

I have had to kill 3.....were they poisonous,?

I dont know , Never got around to asking them.................

[sammieuk1]

It looks like the 2 piece snake totally harmless and very common in my garden 🤔

[ravip]

On 12/9/2023 at 6:32 AM, novacova said:

Get a couple of mongoose, they like to kill snakes 

They might have Rabbit & Chicken as a snack too, isn't it?

[ravip]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:44 PM, BritManToo said:

No need to educate myself, I'm ok killing garden pests.

I agree with you. A harmless snake is a dead snake for me.

[Photoguy21]

On 12/9/2023 at 7:49 AM, BritManToo said:

Any snake near my rabbits will soon be a dead snake.

Thanks for the ID.

Maybe one day you will try killing a snake and it will get you. 

[Lacessit]

It's a bit difficult to determine whether a snake is venomous or non-venomous at 9 pm.

It's not going to hang around until someone on ASEAN identifies it.

[toofarnorth]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

my answer would be ' are they poisonous ?' I have no intention of eating one to find out.

[fondue zoo]

Yes, that is a snake.

 

 

 

 

[ravip]

2 hours ago, ravip said:

I agree with you. A harmless snake is a dead snake for me.

...and now I wonder if the snakes or the sad/confused emoticons are more scary. Seems they are following me like a shadow 

[TeacherJane]

This isndefinotely a Xenopeltis or sunbeam snake, a member of the revolutionary radiation, that gave us pythons and boas, but not classically a member of either group. This is a nonvenomous, burrowing predator, with a small.gape, and is therefore able to ingestbonly small prey, despite its ecological status as a dietary generalist. Sunbeams do have a reputation as ophiophages, or predators of other snakes. I never had much luck with imports of this species, but friends of mine found them to be easy once they were acclimatised and in good health.