Popular Post CharlieH Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 A federal judge in New York has ordered the names of dozens of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged victims and associates to be made public in 2024, according to documents. The order, issued Monday by Judge Loretta A. Preska, is the latest filing in a settled case by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, an American woman who claimed Epstein sexually abused her while she was a minor and that Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s former girlfriend and longtime accomplice, aided in the abuse. Epstein was indicted in 2019 on federal charges of operating a sex trafficking ring in which he allegedly sexually abused dozens of underage girls. The multi-millionaire died by suicide in jail while awaiting trial. Prosecutors in New York indicted Maxwell on sex trafficking charges involving multiple victims. She was convicted last year. While the 2015 defamation lawsuit brought by Giuffre was settled in 2017 and placed under a protective order, parts of it have been unsealed since then as Giuffre, Maxwell and a number of third-party figures have debated what should and shouldn’t be released to the public.In August 2019, the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit unsealed hundreds of pages of documents a day before Epstein died in prison, ruling that the district court judge had improperly sealed hundreds of filings. That judge had since died. The appeals court then remanded the case back to the district court to go through the rest of the documents individually and determine what could be unsealed. Judge Preska, who has since taken over the case, ruled for the unsealing of more documents in July 2020, including Maxwell’s 2016 deposition related to the lawsuit as well as emails and depositions by others. Many of the alleged victims gave public interviews and have already been identified by the media, while others “did not raise an objection” to the unsealing of documents, according to Preska’s Monday order. Preska is giving the Jane and John Does 14 days to file an appeal before the parties confer and make the documents public. As for the Epstein associates, it’s unclear how many have been investigated for alleged wrongdoing or will be. FULL STORY 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 Bet money some well to do John’s are a bit shall we say a weee bit concerned perhaps a politician or two hummm?perhaps some big time lawyer's as well popcorn at the ready!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Tug said: Bet money some well to do John’s are a bit shall we say a weee bit concerned perhaps a politician or two hummm?perhaps some big time lawyer's as well popcorn at the ready!! I have no idea about who may be concerned! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 43 minutes ago, candide said: I have no idea about who may be concerned! me neither 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCauto Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 This should be fun! While I of course expect the list to contain the names of many on both the Republican and Democrat side of politics in the USA, I'd just like to state for the record I think each and every one of them should go to jail, Prince or King, Ex-President or current CEO, Democrat or Republican. No political favors, no immunity from prosecution, no plea bargains. Every one in jail. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Unfortunately, not sure I'd trust anything coming from FBI, or any agency any more. They've proved themselves to be a bit too corrupt. Be funny if half the list was redacted ... Mixed thoughts either way, as sure a few maybe didn't even know what epstein was up to, or found out after visiting. Maxwell chickie, whatever her name is, even stated that the photo of Pr. Philip and the chickie the royals paid, was a fake. That was a surprise. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 https://www.businessinsider.com/famous-people-jeffery-epstein-money-manager-sexual-trafficking-connected-2019-7#mit-media-lab-director-joi-ito-quietly-worked-with-epstein-to-secure-anonymous-donations-vanity-fair-reported-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Your so handy Andy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, JCauto said: This should be fun! While I of course expect the list to contain the names of many on both the Republican and Democrat side of politics in the USA, I'd just like to state for the record I think each and every one of them should go to jail, Prince or King, Ex-President or current CEO, Democrat or Republican. No political favors, no immunity from prosecution, no plea bargains. Every one in jail. I see a touch of "McCarthyism" in your statement as just because people's names are on a list does not make them criminals! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MisterTee Posted December 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 This document-dump is probably meant to damage Trump. If so, I hope there is collateral damage and other slimebags get stiffed as well. Slick Willy and that loathsome Dershowitz come to mind among many others. 4 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 18 hours ago, klauskunkel said: me neither No sweat for the UK's Paedo Prince though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 17 hours ago, scottiejohn said: I see a touch of "McCarthyism" in your statement as just because people's names are on a list does not make them criminals! I could not care less. The extremely rich and powerful do not suffer from a lack of justice or persecution. They are in no way victims like those whom McCarthy went after. Learn your history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 "paging POTUS #42 . . . " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Squeaky bum time at the Clintons. Bill, look directly at the camera and repeat "I did not have sexual relations with that ch....". 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Squeaky bum time at the Clintons. Bill, look directly at the camera and repeat "I did not have sexual relations with that ch....". Yea old bill got caught dead to rights on having relations with that legal age hottie doubt I could resist that one myself mistake on bills part but Monica was of age and I’m sure she was bragging to her gal pals about it lol 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 Fact Check: Trump On Jeffrey Epstein in 2002: 'Terrific Guy' Who 'Likes Beautiful Women as Much as I Do' https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-jeffrey-epstein-223600461.html Trump before: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” Trump later I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years. I wasn't a fan. I was not, yeah, a long time ago, I'd say maybe 15 years. I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you. I was not a fan of his. 🤣 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It won't be a surprise to see the expected names like Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton; but it will be interesting if Trump features heavily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) On 12/21/2023 at 2:46 AM, RuamRudy said: No sweat for the UK's Paedo Prince though... Paedo? I don't recall anything he's done that makes him a paedo. Do you have something? Edited December 24, 2023 by youreavinalaff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Most of you are being beastly to Prince Andrew. He worked very hard on behalf of the UK. More importantly in this context, he much prefers nights out at Woking's Pizza Hut to sordid sex parties. He said so and he was nearly King, so it must be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, RayC said: Most of you are being beastly to Prince Andrew. He worked very hard on behalf of the UK. More importantly in this context, he much prefers nights out at Woking's Pizza Hut to sordid sex parties. He said so and he was nearly King, so it must be true. Nearly King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Trafficking in kids, no decent justification for that. Stick with the livestock, they don't speak. They'll stink up the private jet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 8:46 PM, youreavinalaff said: Nearly King? Second in line to the throne at one point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, RayC said: Second in line to the throne at one point. For 22 years! 1960. his DOB to 1982 the DOB of Prince William!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/21/2023 at 11:18 AM, Tug said: Yea old bill got caught dead to rights on having relations with that legal age hottie doubt I could resist that one myself mistake on bills part but Monica was of age and I’m sure she was bragging to her gal pals about it lol 😂 Yeah Monica was quite hot at the time, especially compared to Hilary. I was getting serious MILF vibes at the time. Unfortunately, Bill was also found to have used the "Lolita Express". https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9789355/Bill-Clinton-took-TWO-trips-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell.html I wouldn't be at all surprised to find him named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Yeah Monica was quite hot at the time, especially compared to Hilary. I was getting serious MILF vibes at the time. Unfortunately, Bill was also found to have used the "Lolita Express". https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9789355/Bill-Clinton-took-TWO-trips-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell.html I wouldn't be at all surprised to find him named. Mind you! There is even damning evidence that Clinton was with an escort in the plane.... His secret service protection..... Nothing hidden, it has been known for years that Epstein was lending his private plane for Clinton foundation trips abroad. That's how he got access to Clinton. Edited December 26, 2023 by candide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, RayC said: Second in line to the throne at one point. Hardly "nearly king". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said: Hardly "nearly king". Seasons greetings. I see that you are back to your pedantic self. Edited December 26, 2023 by RayC No edit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RayC said: Seasons greetings. I see that you are back to your pedantic self. Not pedantic. Realistic. Relying on the death of your mother and older brother to achieve something is far far from nearly achieving it. Edited December 26, 2023 by youreavinalaff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: Hardly "nearly king". In the 22 years that he was 2nd in line to the throne a lot could have happened to the 2 above him and he would certainly have been groomed as the "spare" from an early age! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: In the 22 years that he was 2nd in line to the throne a lot could have happened to the 2 above him and he would certainly have been groomed as the "spare" from an early age! That doesn't make hom "nearly king" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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