Is this the future for EV cars?

[kwak250]

So I expect you have all seen the problems with all the Ev cars trying to charge there EV to get home for NY.

 

Reminds me of when we forgot our mobile phone chargers on a recent trip away and all were fighting to charge from 1 cable.

 

Anyway like I always said the EVs are fine if you just want to drive a few km around town but finally they have a solution.

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by kwak250

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

So I expect you have all seen the problems with all the Ev cars trying to charge there EV to get home for NY.

No, haven't but this is way too cool ... 

 

[novacova]

I really enjoy the convenience of pulling up at a fuel station and loading up on petrol on a machine that I can easily repair on my own.

[kwak250]

20 minutes ago, novacova said:

I really enjoy the convenience of pulling up at a fuel station and loading up on petrol on a machine that I can easily repair on my own.

Yes me too.

Problem now is they are not as easy to work on as the older cars.

[pub2022]

EVs aren't eco-friendly at all. Hybrids are a much better choice if you really like to go on electricity.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, kwak250 said:

So I expect you have all seen the problems with all the Ev cars trying to charge there EV to get home for NY.

 

Reminds me of when we forgot our mobile phone chargers on a recent trip away and all were fighting to charge from 1 cable.

 

Anyway like I always said the EVs are fine if you just want to drive a few km around town but finally they have a solution.

 

 

 

That would work for me, especially in a pickup truck.

[novacova]

7 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Yes me too.

Problem now is they are not as easy to work on as the older cars.

Definitely not as easy as older vehicles which are a piece of cake. Anymore one needs to get familiar with the known issues that arise by reading up on the Internet forums. I keep an OBD reader and common tools in the car and the OBDLink app, and service manuals on my phone. My main problem is that I don’t trust other people working on my vehicles. 

[JBChiangRai]

51 minutes ago, novacova said:

I really enjoy the convenience of pulling up at a fuel station and loading up on petrol on a machine that I can easily repair on my own.

 

What a drag!  

 

I haven't needed to waste time going to any fuel stations in over 3 years

[BenStark]

14 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

What a drag!  

 

I haven't needed to waste time going to any fuel stations in over 3 years

 

Correct, if you use your EV only to go to the local 7/11 you can charge at home. Once you want to travel more than 300km in one go you will have to charge somewhere else.

 

So it's obvious that you have restricted your travelling to the limitations of the vehicle you own

[Gweiloman]

3 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Correct, if you use your EV only to go to the local 7/11 you can charge at home. Once you want to travel more than 300km in one go you will have to charge somewhere else.

 

So it's obvious that you have restricted your travelling to the limitations of the vehicle you own

It’s obvious that you are either completely outdated or ignorant as to the ranges that EVs can do nowadays. I can easily get 400 on Thai highway speeds and close to 500 kms around town.

 

Also, if there’s a power outage in my mooban, I can still have internet access, watch my Tv and have other appliances such as fans and fridges operational.

[Gweiloman]

48 minutes ago, pub2022 said:

EVs aren't eco-friendly at all. Hybrids are a much better choice if you really like to go on electricity.

I guess you didn’t realise that you can’t actually charge a hybrid. Might not be a bad idea to do some research before posting an opinion.

[connda]

Exactly.

[BenStark]

Just now, Gweiloman said:

It’s obvious that you are either completely outdated or ignorant as to the ranges that EVs can do nowadays. I can easily get 400 on Thai highway speeds and close to 500 kms around town.

 

It seems that you are either ignorant or lying through your teeth to make your boat float, if you want to claim that EVERY EV now at once can drive 500kms.

[KhunLA]

49 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Yes me too.

Problem now is they are not as easy to work on as the older cars.

Not that this has anything to do with EVs, but yea, can't remember last time I did much to my ICEVs, as there's so much crap you have to remove to get to anything.

 

Labor is so cheap here/TH, I didn't even bother with oil changes, though dealer says 'if' I do them, voids the warranty.  Not sure how true, but not worth knocking my knuckles for what it cost to have them do here.  Total scam, but don't care.

 

Remember they sold oil with advert of how long it lasted, now it's every 10k kms   Sell sell sell.   Oil is so clean when I check the level it's hard to read.  What a scam.

 

Oh wait, that does make it on topic.   No oil changes w/EVs 

[KhunLA]

41 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

What a drag!  

 

I haven't needed to waste time going to any fuel stations in over 3 years

Yep, use to be a weekly stop, and a wasted 10 minutes & 1000-1500 baht gone for the luxury of being able to add to the local air pollution.

 

10 mins X 52 weeks = 8.6 hr waiting around to waste money 

Now I spend that 50k baht on something I actually want.

Edited December 31, 2023 by KhunLA

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Correct, if you use your EV only to go to the local 7/11 you can charge at home. Once you want to travel more than 300km in one go you will have to charge somewhere else.

 

So it's obvious that you have restricted your travelling to the limitations of the vehicle you own

Actually, we explore a lot more now locally, within that 125 km radius, being it free to venture out.  Hint: solar

[Gweiloman]

6 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

It seems that you are either ignorant or lying through your teeth to make your boat float, if you want to claim that EVERY EV now at once can drive 500kms.

I never claimed that EVERY EV can drive 500 kms. Only that mine can.

 

 

[Gweiloman]

5 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I never claimed that EVERY EV can drive 500 kms. Only that mine can.

 

 

Oh, did I mention that it costs me only about Thb 200 to fully charge my car from 0-100%?

Edited December 31, 2023 by Gweiloman

[Lacessit]

I can't predict what is going to happen with EV cars. There is not enough lithium being mined to enable replacement of every ICE in existence.

 

I think I can predict when insurance companies wake up to the cost of a vehicle that has to be scrapped instead of being repaired, or causes catastrophic damage far beyond the vehicle itself, that premiums will skyrocket.

[bkk6060]

Give me a gas hog any day.  Sales of EV have slumped. The Woke thinkers who are buying them will reach saturation at some point.  Resale values of people who have them now will be practically worthless as they improve the technology.  Kind of like spending $1,000 on a VCR years ago.

Especially in the U.S. Republican Desantis and Trump are not fans of EV if they win, government support will probably be limited.  

[BenStark]

29 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I never claimed that EVERY EV can drive 500 kms. Only that mine can.

 

 

 

Well little boy, did you notice that my first post in this thread wasn't a reply to you? So this thread is not just about YOU YOU YOU.

 

And while I don't know either what the range is of the vehicle of the poster I replied to, it reflects the range of the majority of EV's currently in use.

 

And about your other ignorant answer about hybrids can't be charged, yes you are right. Your ignorance is that they charge themselves trough regenerative braking and by the internal combustion engine, which is FREE

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by BenStark

[Gweiloman]

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Give me a gas hog any day.  Sales of EV have slumped. The Woke thinkers who are buying them will reach saturation at some point.  Resale values of people who have them now will be practically worthless as they improve the technology.  Kind of like spending $1,000 on a VCR years ago.

Especially in the U.S. Republican Desantis and Trump are not fans of EV if they win, government support will probably be limited.  

Sales of EVs have slumped in America, correct. Sales of EVs in Asia, especially Thailand are increasing. I have no objection to ICE cars other than the toxic fumes that diesel vehicles give off and the din they make as they go past.

[KhunLA]

Future of EVs ... hopefully for us, nothing changes.

 

As we saved ฿47,8k the first year owning, and half our kms were on the road.

[Gweiloman]

3 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Well little boy, did you notice that my first post in this thread wasn't a reply to you? So this thread is not just about YOU YOU YOU.

 

And while I don't know either what the range is of the vehicle of the poster I replied to, it reflects the range of the majority of EV's currently in use.

 

And about your other ignorant answer about hybrids can be charged, yes you are right. Your ignorance is that they charge themselves trough regenerative braking and by the internal combustion engine, which is FREE

 

 

Big man, you should learn to accept defeat graciously.

[talahtnut]

Bought 20 years ago for £60, minimal upkeep, probably £6000 now.

And yes it starts easily in freezing conditions.

How many EVs will survive nearly 40 years.

[BenStark]

9 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Oh, did I mention that it costs me only about Thb 200 to fully charge my car from 0-100%?

 

Did you read the news that the discounts on electricity will not be extended?

 

And yeah you may charge cheaper, although you have paid a higher purchase price compared to an equivalent ICE car, repair costs are much higher, and let's talk again if you have to replace your battery or if you want to sell your car after a few years

[OneMoreFarang]

I wait for the time when people look back and point at EVs and say: How did the people at that time think that could be a big scale solution?

 

P.S.: I think there are some usages of EVs which make sense. Some. But they are definitely no large-scale replacement compared to combustion engines. 

[JensenZ]

12 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Did you read the news that the discounts on electricity will not be extended?

 

And yeah you may charge cheaper, although you have paid a higher purchase price compared to an equivalent ICE car, repair costs are much higher, and let's talk again if you have to replace your battery or if you want to sell your car after a few years

Good talking point... how much would replacement batteries cost for the average EV?

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Did you read the news that the discounts on electricity will not be extended?

 

And yeah you may charge cheaper, although you have paid a higher purchase price compared to an equivalent ICE car, repair costs are much higher, and let's talk again if you have to replace your battery or if you want to sell your car after a few years

One sees people popping up on social media, talking about out-of-warranty EV's, where they are stuck with a battery replacement cost of 60-70% of the new vehicle cost. Their car insurance won't cover it either.

Admittedly it can't be all that frequent, but it must give secondhand EV buyers something to think about.

Contrast that with an ICE, where a reconditioned engine is 20-30K baht, if it is blown.

[BenStark]

18 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Big man, you should learn to accept defeat graciously.

 

Which defeat?

 

I have pointed out the errors in your posts, seems you can't even accept those