Popular Post Social Media Posted February 18 Popular Post Share Posted February 18 London Mayor Sadiq Khan has sparked controversy by delaying the installation of a statue of Queen Elizabeth II in Trafalgar Square until 2030, favoring "woke" art instead. Critics have condemned Khan's decision to reserve the Fourth Plinth, where the Queen's statue was intended to stand, for "woke" art installations until the end of the decade. The first piece slated for display is an installation featuring 850 faces of predominantly transgender individuals, many of whom were sex workers. Tory mayoral candidate Susan Hall has vowed to reverse Khan's decision if elected, advocating for the relocation of the "woke" art to make way for the Queen's statue on the Fourth Plinth. Expressing outrage at Khan's move, Hall highlighted his approval of Left-wing names for London Overground lines and the allocation of £1 million of public funds for Fourth Plinth installations in 2026 and 2028. This decision effectively postpones the installation of the Queen's statue until 2030 at the earliest. Although Khan has not explicitly opposed a statue of the late Queen, he has not supported its placement in Trafalgar Square. Instead, he has backed the creation of the Queen Elizabeth Memorial Committee, chaired by a former Private Secretary to Queen Elizabeth II, to explore memorial options. The winning entry for the 2024 commission, "Improntas," is scheduled to be installed on the plinth in August, further complicating the potential placement of the Queen's statue. Hall has pledged to collaborate with the Queen Elizabeth Memorial Committee and the Royal Family to establish a permanent memorial for the late Queen on the Fourth Plinth, necessitating the relocation of existing artwork. Criticism has also been directed at the cost of the "woke" art installation, with taxpayers funding £140,000 for production costs and a £30,000 artist's fee. Future installations in 2026 and 2028 are expected to incur even higher expenses. Public opinion on the "woke" art remains divided, with YouGov polling indicating that only 23 percent of Londoners approve of the installation, while 42 percent express disapproval. Khan initially defended the art installation, stating that it would spark discussions about freedom and equality. However, his decision to prioritize "woke" art over the Queen's statue has reignited debate over the use of public spaces for political statements and artistic expression. 19.02.24 Source 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted February 18 Popular Post Share Posted February 18 Here's the headline... "London mayor under fire for reportedly snubbing queen statue in favor of art celebrating trans prostitutes" 1 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 The outrage, the self stoked grievance fed outrage of it all. The Express assumes its readers can be diverted by the use of the word ‘woke’ from recollecting that a 1998 public consultation, commissioned by the Secretary of State and undertaken by Sir John Mortimer concluded the Fourth Plinth should be reserved for the display of continually replaced artwork and should not be used for the placement of any permanent statue. The Forth Plinth has since become a popular visitor destination for art lovers and tourists alike. 9 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 I feel compelled to tell all the gentle snowflakes so outraged by anything they term “woke” to Grow a Pair, because clearly they have none, so easily upset by matters of such minor importance in the overall scheme of things. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, Walker88 said: I feel compelled to tell all the gentle snowflakes so outraged by anything they term “woke” to Grow a Pair, because clearly they have none, so easily upset by matters of such minor importance in the overall scheme of things. It’s from the Express, a fully paid up member of the Tory Client Press. And yes, definitely a distraction from very much more important things going on in the UK right now. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 This issue, if it really is an issue, is the least important of most Londoners concerns about Khan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Not sure why they use the word woke with inverted commas. According to Wikipedia: "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" 1. It is an American word. Why is the Telegraph using it? 2. It was created by African-Americans. Nothing to do with transgender art. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VocalNeal Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 Well, he has to spark something lest he remain irrelevant. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Well, he has to spark something lest he remain irrelevant. He really is in trouble - in opposite world. London Elections 2024: What does Sadiq Khan’s sudden massive poll lead mean? https://www.onlondon.co.uk/london-elections-2024-what-does-sadiq-khans-sudden-massive-poll-lead-mean/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 A crude troll post contravening our Community Standards has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Forever Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 When a bigot throws the woke word at me. I ask them to explain the definition. That always throws them. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct99q Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 minutes ago, Red Forever said: When a bigot throws the woke word at me. I ask them to explain the definition. That always throws them. Yes, well there you go. Confuse them with brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 9 hours ago, Social Media said: London Mayor Sadiq Khan has sparked controversy by delaying the installation of a statue of Queen Elizabeth II in Trafalgar Square until 2030, favoring "woke" art instead. Critics have condemned Khan's decision to reserve the Fourth Plinth, where the Queen's statue was intended to stand, for "woke" art installations until the end of the decade. The first piece slated for display is an installation featuring 850 faces of predominantly transgender individuals, many of whom were sex workers. Tory mayoral candidate Susan Hall has vowed to reverse Khan's decision if elected, advocating for the relocation of the "woke" art to make way for the Queen's statue on the Fourth Plinth. Expressing outrage at Khan's move, Hall highlighted his approval of Left-wing names for London Overground lines and the allocation of £1 million of public funds for Fourth Plinth installations in 2026 and 2028. This decision effectively postpones the installation of the Queen's statue until 2030 at the earliest. Although Khan has not explicitly opposed a statue of the late Queen, he has not supported its placement in Trafalgar Square. Instead, he has backed the creation of the Queen Elizabeth Memorial Committee, chaired by a former Private Secretary to Queen Elizabeth II, to explore memorial options. The winning entry for the 2024 commission, "Improntas," is scheduled to be installed on the plinth in August, further complicating the potential placement of the Queen's statue. Hall has pledged to collaborate with the Queen Elizabeth Memorial Committee and the Royal Family to establish a permanent memorial for the late Queen on the Fourth Plinth, necessitating the relocation of existing artwork. Criticism has also been directed at the cost of the "woke" art installation, with taxpayers funding £140,000 for production costs and a £30,000 artist's fee. Future installations in 2026 and 2028 are expected to incur even higher expenses. Public opinion on the "woke" art remains divided, with YouGov polling indicating that only 23 percent of Londoners approve of the installation, while 42 percent express disapproval. Khan initially defended the art installation, stating that it would spark discussions about freedom and equality. However, his decision to prioritize "woke" art over the Queen's statue has reignited debate over the use of public spaces for political statements and artistic expression. 19.02.24 Source Good mayor. There is NO reason to remember the dark century of colonialism.🙏. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 hours ago, Walker88 said: I feel compelled to tell all the gentle snowflakes so outraged by anything they term “woke” to Grow a Pair, because clearly they have none, so easily upset by matters of such minor importance in the overall scheme of things. Yet, it seems that the woke is so easily offended by those that will not accept their ... wokeness! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The outrage, the self stoked grievance fed outrage of it all. The Express assumes its readers can be diverted by the use of the word ‘woke’ from recollecting that a 1998 public consultation, commissioned by the Secretary of State and undertaken by Sir John Mortimer concluded the Fourth Plinth should be reserved for the display of continually replaced artwork and should not be used for the placement of any permanent statue. The Forth Plinth has since become a popular visitor destination for art lovers and tourists alike. ..........and anti-Brits......... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I think SK will soon be heading for the hill's, he is even worse than Red Ken........ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 This story has been debunked multiple times. Firstly, when it was originally published over a year ago, and more recently when GBNews and The Express tried to revive it. Sadiq Khan subjected to racist abuse over false claims he vetoed Queen statue https://x.com/jdpoc/status/1759248084708491355?s=20 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 58 minutes ago, radiochaser said: Yet, it seems that the woke is so easily offended by those that will not accept their ... wokeness! They're much more offended by people carrying on about it without having the fain test clue what the word means. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSam Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Well, my bet is that he is surely gonna lose next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, newbee2022 said: Good mayor. There is NO reason to remember the dark century of colonialism.🙏. Especially as the last half of the 20th century was spent eradicating colonialism where the UK was casting off its old empire, or were you not around in those times? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: He really is in trouble - in opposite world. London Elections 2024: What does Sadiq Khan’s sudden massive poll lead mean? https://www.onlondon.co.uk/london-elections-2024-what-does-sadiq-khans-sudden-massive-poll-lead-mean/ Khan will always get 100% of the Muslim vote no matter how bad he is. Muslims will never vote for a non-Muslim given the choice. That's a massive head start when you consider there are around 1.3 million Muslims living in London. For that reason he can probably stay in the job for as long as he wants. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 minutes ago, billd766 said: Especially as the last half of the 20th century was spent eradicating colonialism where the UK was casting off its old empire, or were you not around in those times? Well, I can remember. It was 1806 and the French got the jitters. But it took another almost 30 years to abolish slavery. And what about the colonies? They are all independent or still ruled by the superior race? Every country got its own history. Some histories you'll better not remember: However, everybody remembers the German Holocaust if Gaza/Israel is mentioned. It all happened and happens. No need for a statue glorifying the past. I mean Trafalgar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 24 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Well, I can remember. It was 1806 and the French got the jitters. But it took another almost 30 years to abolish slavery. And what about the colonies? They are all independent or still ruled by the superior race? Every country got its own history. Some histories you'll better not remember: However, everybody remembers the German Holocaust if Gaza/Israel is mentioned. It all happened and happens. No need for a statue glorifying the past. I mean Trafalgar. When you say 'the colonies', I assume you're talking about the 14 remaining British Overseas Territories? They could become independent if they wanted to. They're not forced to remain BOTs. Do you know why they don't? Because most of them have a population the size of a small town, no natural resources, and enjoy the security and protection of being a BOT. The British Empire is in the past, and you need to move on. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 42 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Well, I can remember. It was 1806 and the French got the jitters. But it took another almost 30 years to abolish slavery. And what about the colonies? They are all independent or still ruled by the superior race? Every country got its own history. Some histories you'll better not remember: However, everybody remembers the German Holocaust if Gaza/Israel is mentioned. It all happened and happens. No need for a statue glorifying the past. I mean Trafalgar. What has 1806 got to do with a statue of QE 2? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, billd766 said: What has 1806 got to do with a statue of QE 2? Hahaha, that's not a serious question, is it?😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 21 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: When you say 'the colonies', I assume you're talking about the 14 remaining British Overseas Territories? They could become independent if they wanted to. They're not forced to remain BOTs. Do you know why they don't? Because most of them have a population the size of a small town, no natural resources, and enjoy the security and protection of being a BOT. The British Empire is in the past, and you need to move on. Oh, so nothing to do with most of them (and the Crown Dependencies) being offshore tax dodgers paradises? And of the rest, several are important strategic military outposts like Gibraltar, Diego Garcia in the Chagos Islands, St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cuhna. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 5:17 AM, ozimoron said: They're much more offended by people carrying on about it without having the fain test clue what the word means. You are one of the woke ones, whether you know it or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 8:23 AM, Chomper Higgot said: The outrage, the self stoked grievance fed outrage of it all. The Express assumes its readers can be diverted by the use of the word ‘woke’ from recollecting that a 1998 public consultation, commissioned by the Secretary of State and undertaken by Sir John Mortimer concluded the Fourth Plinth should be reserved for the display of continually replaced artwork and should not be used for the placement of any permanent statue. The Forth Plinth has since become a popular visitor destination for art lovers and tourists alike. Can't let facts get in the way of the outrage machine. How will the poor little snowflake gammons survive without raging at "the woke" every morning over their cornflakes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 4:19 PM, transam said: ..........and anti-Brits......... having a rotating arts exhibit is now anti-British? Well I never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 6:33 AM, Social Media said: The winning entry for the 2024 commission, "Improntas," is scheduled to be installed on the plinth in August, further complicating the potential placement of the Queen's statue. I hope no protesters throw tomato soup over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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