luckymitchell Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Negates the fact that the SCOTUS has been rigged how? Same as the NY court then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, illisdean said: I am not advocating for voting Nikki. Quite the opposite, I am happy she can't win the primaries, as she would be more likely to win the election than Trump. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post illisdean Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 (edited) If Biden had even half of a functioning brain, which is a stretch and /or if he cared about democracy he should come out immediately and make a statement in support of the 9-0 SCOTUS beatdown of the desperate attempts at lawfare to prevent voters from exercising their constitutional rights to vote for the candidate of his choosing. But Biden isn't smart and by all accounts could care less about voters and their rights as long as they vote for him as he persecutes his political rivals in fear of losing at the ballot box! There is no bigger threat to democracy than the mentally unfit Biden. Edited March 5 by illisdean 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 41 minutes ago, candide said: Changing argument now... I have no doubt they are eager to make "something" up. 😀 In Colorado, a judge decided he was an insurectionist. Don't they need a court decision in Texas too? No, I am not changing the argument. Do you not think you could find a judge to decide Biden is an insurrectionist? If a Colorado judge decided Trump was an insurrectionist, why do they not just prosecute him for it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, illisdean said: “Moot” , Big time. She won the District of Columbia ,aka DC, aka the Swamps vote . She won the govt employee vote! They arent part of Trumps plan in Making America Great Again. Bloated Federals Govt cost the Taxpayers. Imop But the GOP electorate in D.C. — where Republicans make up just 5 percent of registered voters — is hardly representative of the conservative base found in most other parts of the country. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/03/haley-dc-primary-results-00144502 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 24 minutes ago, connda said: For political zealots on all sides, everyone else's candidates are fascists, dictators, and probably Hitler reborn. And traitors to boot. When you understand that? Then you stop getting caught up in the propaganda, the spin, the hyperbole, and realize that most of those aspiring to power are little more than charlatans seeking to wield power for the sake of power. These are not the people anybody really wants to be running their countries - and yet - fools keep voting the same slime-balls into office regardless of how bad they detest them. And you get what you deserve. The rest of us, unfortunately, get the tyranny of the majority. I really don't get this 'they're all as bad as each other' viewpoint when Trump is demonstrably worse in every way. It wasn't Biden who has been saying the election was rigged for the last 3 years; it isn't Biden who has been fined $454 million for business fraud; it isn't Biden who has been convicted of sexual abuse and it wasn't Biden who defrauded his own charity. All of these FACTS (and many, many more) are laid solely at the feet of Trump and goes to the very essence of the difference between the two candidates; Biden may be getting on a bit (about the worst criticism Trumpers can say about him) but Trump is just a nasty piece of work with the morals of an alley cat. And I don't need the usual to debate any of these facts. I know I won't change your mind because if facts logic or appeals of decency influnced you, you wouldn't be a Trump fan in the first place. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 30 minutes ago, Jingthing said: No. Trump is different. The extent of his threat to the world is not hyperbole. Why? Do you have anything that supports that? Is it just because he's fat and eats at McDonald's or because he wants the border closed, Israel safe, NATO to pay their share and energy independence for the United States? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 11 hours ago, Jingthing said: What SCOTUS didn't address was the Colorado ruling that Citizen (not president) Trump is an insurrectionist. So as it stands now, Trump on top of being an adjudicated rapist is also an adjudicated insurrectionist. Of course his maga cult fans won't budge, even as it becomes clearer and clearer that Trump suffers from advanced dementia. Thank you Dr J for that medical summary. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: I really don't get this 'they're all as bad as each other' viewpoint when Trump is demonstrably worse in every way. It wasn't Biden who has been saying the election was rigged for the last 3 years; it isn't Biden who has been fined $454 million for business fraud; it isn't Biden who has been convicted of sexual abuse and it wasn't Biden who defrauded his own charity. A lot of people not on the left see this as lawfare. 4 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: All of these FACTS (and many, many more) are laid solely at the feet of Trump and goes to the very essence of the difference between the two candidates; Biden may be getting on a bit (about the worst criticism Trumpers can say about him) but Trump is just a nasty piece of work with the morals of an alley cat. They are just FACTS to the left. I think it a FACT that Biden has been a despicable POC on the public teat and on the take his whole career, and I do not like his policies. That said, it I liked Biden's policies better than Trump's policies, I would vote for Biden, I don't, 4 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: And I don't need the usual to debate any of these facts. I know I won't change your mind because if facts logic or appeals of decency influnced you, you wouldn't be a Trump fan in the first place. I know I won't change your mind because if facts logic or appeals of decency influenced you, you wouldn't be a Biden fan in the first place. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 IMO it's a situation where the SC has given Trump half the pie. The 14th amendment was always a problematic case anyway. The other half of the pie will go to Jack Smith, when the SC tosses out Trump's claim of presidential immunity. Of course, if the SC was to affirm immunity, Biden could order Trump to be assassinated. Or every right-wing judge on SCOTUS, for that matter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: A lot of people not on the left see this as lawfare. They are just FACTS to the left. I think it a FACT that Biden has been a despicable POC on the public teat and on the take his whole career, and I do not like his policies. That said, it I liked Biden's policies better than Trump's policies, I would vote for Biden, I don't, I know I won't change your mind because if facts logic or appeals of decency influenced you, you wouldn't be a Biden fan in the first place. You're talking about decency and Trump in the same breath? Bring me a bucket. Edited March 5 by stats unsourced cartoon graphic removed 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 18 minutes ago, illisdean said: If Biden had even half of a functioning brain, which is a stretch and /or if he cared about democracy he should come out immediately and make a statement in support of the 9-0 SCOTUS beatdown of the desperate attempts at lawfare to prevent voters from exercising their constitutional rights to vote for the candidate of his choosing. But Biden isn't smart and by all accounts could care less about voters and their rights as long as they vote for him as he persecutes his political rivals in fear of losing at the ballot box! There is no bigger threat to democracy than the mentally unfit Biden. Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: No, I am not changing the argument. Do you not think you could find a judge to decide Biden is an insurrectionist? If a Colorado judge decided Trump was an insurrectionist, why do they not just prosecute him for it? No. It's a lame false equivalence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? Typically, when the SCOTUS rules against Biden because he tries to do something unconstitutional, he just tries to do it anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 38 minutes ago, illisdean said: If Biden had even half of a functioning brain, which is a stretch and /or if he cared about democracy he should come out immediately and make a statement in support of the 9-0 SCOTUS beatdown of the desperate attempts at lawfare to prevent voters from exercising their constitutional rights to vote for the candidate of his choosing. But Biden isn't smart and by all accounts could care less about voters and their rights as long as they vote for him as he persecutes his political rivals in fear of losing at the ballot box! There is no bigger threat to democracy than the mentally unfit Biden. He said black people who don't vote democrat arent real blacks. Biden is anti democracy fascist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Typically, when the SCOTUS rules against Biden because he tries to do something unconstitutional, he just tries to do it anyway. That post does not answer the two very clear and non political questions I posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 20 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? In support of and the furtherance of democracy....why would he? He's cries and moans about other SCOTUS decisions. Maybe you don't advocate for free and fair democracy much like Biden? Point is, Biden criticizes the court rulings frequently, ie; Roe v Wade, and others, wait and see if he opens his big stupid mouth about the recent 9-0 Colorado beatdown but I suspect he won't because he can't since his stench is all over the Colorado humiliation. Edited March 5 by illisdean 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) Like it or not, SCOTUS is the supreme arbiter of law in America. This is just one of the many cases filed concerning Trump, so it doesn't make sense to think this is the end of it. Edited March 5 by Purdey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, illisdean said: In support of and the furtherance of democracy....why would he? He's cries and moans about other SCOTUS decisions. Maybe you don't advocate for free and fair democracy much like Biden? Point is, Biden criticizes the court rulings frequently, ie; Roe v Wade, and others, wait and see if he opens his big stupid mouth about the recent 9-0 Colorado beatdown but I suspect he won't because he can't since his stench is all over the Colorado humiliation. I am NOT discussing who does or does not criticize SCOTUS! I am asking; Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post illisdean Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dolf said: He said black people who don't vote democrat arent real blacks. Biden is anti democracy fascist. He is a racist of epic proportions but I am betting he forgot all his racist comments in his 50 or so racist years in politics. It's hurting him now, as new polls show Trump garnering large increases in black and hispanic support. Maybe Arab or others too after 100K unassigned voters tabled in the recent MI primary. BIG PROBLEM for Biden in Michigan now. Edited March 5 by stats unsourced claim removed 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: That post does not answer the two very clear and non political questions I posted! While your questions are clear, they were both political. 1. Q: Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? A: The President should not, that's why Biden's commenting on a Supreme Court case is so despicable. 2. Q: Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? A: Absolutely, that's why when you see Chuck Schumer et al attacking the Court and the Justices publicly, they should be taken to task for their hideous behavior. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoDisplayName Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 12 hours ago, Jingthing said: What SCOTUS didn't address was the Colorado ruling that Citizen (not president) Trump is an insurrectionist. So as it stands now, Trump on top of being an adjudicated rapist is also an adjudicated insurrectionist. Of course his maga cult fans won't budge, even as it becomes clearer and clearer that Trump suffers from advanced dementia. Why not keep him on the ballot and let, you know, the people decide? Do you want the election to depend on who can hire the best lawfare practitioners? What do you have against democracy? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: While your questions are clear, they were both political. 1. Q: Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? A: The President should not, that's why Biden's commenting on a Supreme Court case is so despicable. 2. Q: Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? A: Absolutely, that's why when you see Chuck Schumer et al attacking the Court and the Justices publicly, they should be taken to task for their hideous behavior. Why did you have to bring personalities into this? It would have been easier to answer thus; 1. Q: Why should any POTUS get involved in supporting, or not supporting, a SCOTUS decision? A: The President should not. 2. Q: Isn't the SCOTUS supposed to be independent? A: Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Flame removed, make it the last one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, rattlesnake said: Imagine being a liberal and constantly reading this hopium about how they finally “got Trump”… only to over and over and over again have your hopes and dreams dashed by reality. What a sorry existence it must be! been the same since 2016!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: Trump is not a conservative. He's running tp be fascist dictator for life. He's also a traitor. how is he a traitor and dictator?.... your opinion of you have some facts? Edited March 5 by frank83628 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 19 hours ago, candide said: Good news! The Dems are more likely to win against Trump than against Haley. And....more good BAD news for your one and only unfit candidate..... Biden losing votes to Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-2020-voters-are-abandoning-him-donald-trump-1875284 Edited March 6 by stats unsourced and unsubstantiated claim removed 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 15 hours ago, illisdean said: And....more good BAD news for your one and only unfit candidate..... Biden losing votes to Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-2020-voters-are-abandoning-him-donald-trump-1875284 It's a long way to November and the left has not even started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 18 hours ago, candide said: Ridiculous false equivalence. The 14th Amendment Section 3 only concerns insurrection. Texas could have done nothing. (Of course, you know it already and don't forget, it also DOES NOT concern Presidents, and maybe u r unaware who was POTUS, or who wasn't perhaps? At any rate, the 14th Sec 3 applies NOT to the president. Edited March 6 by stats baiting comment removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 55 minutes ago, frank83628 said: how is he a traitor and dictator?.... your opinion of you have some facts? Trump is more American than KFC. Biden is the traitor. Open borders, giving billions overseas. America is bourbon,burgers, blues, fried chicken, loud confident talkers and Trump. Biden is Irish. About as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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