3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I get your sarcasm. I'm sure you're wrong. Trump is objectively like no other politician in America history. Acting like this is just another partisan election is both dangerous and insane.

. “Trump is objectively like no other politician in America history”

 

Exactly, you’re finally getting the picture.

 

That’s why he is leading the polls and will win in November.  The vast majority of Americans are fed up with current corrupt modern day politicians.

 

The beltways seat pumps are pumping at over capacity.

13 hours ago, thesetat said:

 

 

You've got to be some Russian bot or maybe a nephew of Trump.

 

None of your softly, softly 'well there's no smoke without fire' clumsy innuendo masks the FACT that Biden has been exonerated by the GOP for NOT 'using the position for financial gain from other countries' 

 

'After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct'. 

 

 House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

https://archive.is/4RQtP

 

Fox had jumped all over this previously with their 'super reliable' FBI informant nonsense until they couldn't rant any longer after the GOP themselves said it was a complete load of bull$hit.

 

And don't try and paint Trump out as some sort of free speech hero. The job comes with responsibilities and one of them is knowing when to keep your big mouth shut. Something Mr. Foot in Your Moth has a bigly problem with.

 

NB:- 'He had some really good ideas to make the US better for Americans' - ok. Name 10 - alright too hard, l'll settle for 5.  

 

 

12 hours ago, candide said:

Stupid comment. Biden did not try to overturn a legit election! 😅

Correct!  I was a long-time Democrat now an independent voter.  Not stupid Biden didn't he's not capable Obama started the process.  🤣

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

Haleys history.  Get over it.

 

To remembered through out the ages.

And I am happy about it, as she was more likely to win the election than Trump. It will be easier for the Dems! 😀

Seems to me the trump [supporters] are a busy bunch of (farmers)lol seems on of their favorite tactics is the old primary school saying I’m rubber you are glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you that’s them and trump in a nutshell.oh well hope the SC gets off its collective rear end and rules on trumps im above the law claim BEFORE the election!!

12 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Videos of the attack on the Capitol tell a different story.

 

Thank you for the clarification of the “attack”.  Not an insurrection.

 

 I was almost “attacked” by Soi dogs once.

 

Citizens are “attacked “ every day in America by thugs.  Some thugs are USC’s and some are illegal aliens.

 

Some of these “attacks “ range from being pushed in front of a subway train, being mugged, beaten or murdered for being Asian, car jacked, vehicles being broken into, domestic violence, drug dealing gone bad to name a few.  

January 6th was not an insurrection.  It was a disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot.  But no insurrection!
 

It was conducted by a bunch of idiots  

 

Trump, the sitting President at the time of the alleged insurrection did not plan and execute the disturbance.  He encouraged and told them to stop and go home peacefully.  Plenty of footage of him saying this.  You and most here have heard or watched the footage, most likely.

 

Whether you or the rest want to admit seeing the footage is up to you.  Your denial is no excuse for me to post the link, stats or proof.  1 minute of google search and you got it

 

Fox News did not support the disturbance and vast majority of conservatives did not support it either, myself included.

 

January 6th was one day 

 

The mostly peaceful summer of love several years ago by comparison was much closer to an insurrection than the 6th but also was not an insurrection.

 

Encourage and supported by Maxine Waters, Pelosi, AOC and her worthless squad to name a few.

 

Footages available even though you have seen it, most likely.

 

Mayem, Anarchy, looting, murder, burning that made the 6th look tame.

 

12 hours ago, connda said:

Today the progressives want to ban the conservative candidate that they viscerally hate.
Tomorrow the useful idiots will become the target of their own derision, enmity, and lawfare.

Lawfare is the end of actual democracy.  But then again, the western concept of democracy is looking more and more like other -ism and -cracies such as kakistocracies and plutocracies with a bent toward totalitarianism, all framed as "democracies."  When the SCOTUS affirmed for Big Money and Big Corporations via Citizens United vs FEC followed by Congress voting to allow the government to shower the American public with state propaganda on July 2nd 2013, democracy died.  Now they are just filleting the carcass and hanging the commoners meat out to dry.

I like that post. I especially like the "Now they are just filleting the carcass and hanging the commoners meat out to dry". It has a more dramatic effect than my use of "sheeple", "peasants" or "consumer units".

9 hours ago, G_Money said:

Thank you for the clarification of the “attack”.  Not an insurrection.

 

 I was almost “attacked” by Soi dogs once.

 

Citizens are “attacked “ every day in America by thugs.  Some thugs are USC’s and some are illegal aliens.

 

Some of these “attacks “ range from being pushed in front of a subway train, being mugged, beaten or murdered for being Asian, car jacked, vehicles being broken into, domestic violence, drug dealing gone bad to name a few.  

January 6th was not an insurrection.  It was a disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot.  But no insurrection!
 

It was conducted by a bunch of idiots  

 

Trump, the sitting President at the time of the alleged insurrection did not plan and execute the disturbance.  He encouraged and told them to stop and go home peacefully.  Plenty of footage of him saying this.  You and most here have heard or watched the footage, most likely.

 

Whether you or the rest want to admit seeing the footage is up to you.  Your denial is no excuse for me to post the link, stats or proof.  1 minute of google search and you got it

 

Fox News did not support the disturbance and vast majority of conservatives did not support it either, myself included.

 

January 6th was one day 

 

The mostly peaceful summer of love several years ago by comparison was much closer to an insurrection than the 6th but also was not an insurrection.

 

Encourage and supported by Maxine Waters, Pelosi, AOC and her worthless squad to name a few.

 

Footages available even though you have seen it, most likely.

 

Mayem, Anarchy, looting, murder, burning that made the 6th look tame.

 

 

 

Very well said. I have said on here before that the vast majority of those that participated did nothing more violent than walking through the building, maskless, and completely devoid of weapons.

However, to read some of the comments put forth by the Trump haters, every man and woman that participated was a raging anarchist, hell bent on hanging Pence, and overthrowing the government.

It's the last bit that makes a mockery of their faux outrage though. It's as though they actually believe in the nonsense that a few ( among the mainly peaceful crowd ) violent protestors could actually become a government, without any backing from any of the states, police or the military.

 

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11 hours ago, G_Money said:

“Trump is objectively like no other politician in America history”

 

Exactly, you’re finally getting the picture.

 

That’s why he is leading the polls and will win in November.  The vast majority of Americans are fed up with current corrupt modern day politicians.

Is the penny finally dropping?

It's taken a while, for sure.

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14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

If my daughter willingly goes into a dressing room at an upscale department store in New York to fool around with a famous rich playboy (unless it got violent) I would think she got what she went in for, and perhaps a bit more, but I would not blame him.

I think she made it up, either all or in part.

Spoken like a model parent.

 

8 hours ago, Dolf said:

Trump started no wars. America is crap now. Americans want him back.

We'll see how many want him back in November. I suggest Trumpers should lay in plenty of tissues.

9 hours ago, G_Money said:

Thank you for the clarification of the “attack”.  Not an insurrection.

 

 I was almost “attacked” by Soi dogs once.

 

Citizens are “attacked “ every day in America by thugs.  Some thugs are USC’s and some are illegal aliens.

 

Some of these “attacks “ range from being pushed in front of a subway train, being mugged, beaten or murdered for being Asian, car jacked, vehicles being broken into, domestic violence, drug dealing gone bad to name a few.  

January 6th was not an insurrection.  It was a disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot.  But no insurrection!
 

It was conducted by a bunch of idiots  

 

Trump, the sitting President at the time of the alleged insurrection did not plan and execute the disturbance.  He encouraged and told them to stop and go home peacefully.  Plenty of footage of him saying this.  You and most here have heard or watched the footage, most likely.

 

Whether you or the rest want to admit seeing the footage is up to you.  Your denial is no excuse for me to post the link, stats or proof.  1 minute of google search and you got it

 

Fox News did not support the disturbance and vast majority of conservatives did not support it either, myself included.

 

January 6th was one day 

 

The mostly peaceful summer of love several years ago by comparison was much closer to an insurrection than the 6th but also was not an insurrection.

 

Encourage and supported by Maxine Waters, Pelosi, AOC and her worthless squad to name a few.

 

Footages available even though you have seen it, most likely.

 

Mayem, Anarchy, looting, murder, burning that made the 6th look tame.

 

 

 

A mob carrying a gallows, and chanting "hang Mike Pence" is not an insurrection. Police getting beaten up is not an insurrection. Trump saying " he deserves it" in response is not sedition. Trump wanting to go to the Capitol to incite the mob further. He waited for four hours to do the peace message, despite the pleas of his staff to intervene earlier.

 

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https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

 

Bye bye Biden

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

We'll see how many want him back in November. I suggest Trumpers should lay in plenty of tissues.

Out of touch

 

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

2 hours ago, Dolf said:

Out of touch

 

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

Perhaps if you posted a poll showing Trump's standing with Democrat voters and women, it might be more relevant.

Or a graph showing Biden's campaign funding compared to Trump's meager collections from his goobers. You're the one out of touch.

 

 

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8 hours ago, G_Money said:

January 6th was not an insurrection.  It was a disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot.  But no insurrection!
 

It was conducted by a bunch of idiots  

 

 

 

 

Well at least we are getting somewhere with your admissions.

 

The problem with all of this is a normal 'disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot' is exactly that - a riot. But when you aim that 'riot' at a building where Congress meets to write the laws of the nation, and where presidents are inaugurated, you open yourself up for accusations of insurrection - in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

 

I personally don't think it was an insurrection as I don't think the Trump crowd are that well organised or clever enough to mount an insurrection and I don't think for one minute Trump thought things would get as out of hand as they did but he is culperable for the actions of that day by getting the crowd together in the first place, getting them all riled up, pointing them at The Capitol Building and then doing nothing when it was obvious things were getting out of hand.

 

Call it an insurrection; call it a riot, either way it was instigated by Trump and perpetrated by HIS supporters. In that there is no denying and is why this man should never be allowed back into office. Hopefully the American people will now stick the final nail in his coffin and vote Biden come November.    

  

     After reading the numerous posts debating whether Trump was convicted of rape or, instead, sexual abuse, I found myself thinking, in regard to the Trump defenders, are you even listening to yourselves?  I mean, seriously?  You're struggling to defend someone that, whether it be rape or sexual abuse, should not for a nano second be even remotely considered suitable for any elected office, let alone president of the US.

     It just boggles my mind that we're even having this debate--rape vs. sexual abuse.  Like one would be a deal breaker but not the other.  Ludicrous.  It doesn't matter.  Disqualified, in any sane universe.   Not to mention all his other serious law-breaking.  Sadly, gone are the days when a candidate's wife wearing an expensive coat could threaten to torpedo his chances for election, and necessitate a national speech--with his dog in a supporting role.  And, what a depressing commentary on the state of the US--that significant numbers still see this dreadful, multiple law-breaking individual as worthy to take the reins of the country.  We crossed over into The Twilight Zone in 2016 and, horribly, are still there.

10 hours ago, G_Money said:

Thank you for the clarification of the “attack”.  Not an insurrection.

 

 I was almost “attacked” by Soi dogs once.

 

Citizens are “attacked “ every day in America by thugs.  Some thugs are USC’s and some are illegal aliens.

 

Some of these “attacks “ range from being pushed in front of a subway train, being mugged, beaten or murdered for being Asian, car jacked, vehicles being broken into, domestic violence, drug dealing gone bad to name a few.  

January 6th was not an insurrection.  It was a disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot.  But no insurrection!
 

It was conducted by a bunch of idiots  

 

Trump, the sitting President at the time of the alleged insurrection did not plan and execute the disturbance.  He encouraged and told them to stop and go home peacefully.  Plenty of footage of him saying this.  You and most here have heard or watched the footage, most likely.

 

Whether you or the rest want to admit seeing the footage is up to you.  Your denial is no excuse for me to post the link, stats or proof.  1 minute of google search and you got it

 

Fox News did not support the disturbance and vast majority of conservatives did not support it either, myself included.

 

January 6th was one day 

 

The mostly peaceful summer of love several years ago by comparison was much closer to an insurrection than the 6th but also was not an insurrection.

 

Encourage and supported by Maxine Waters, Pelosi, AOC and her worthless squad to name a few.

 

Footages available even though you have seen it, most likely.

 

Mayem, Anarchy, looting, murder, burning that made the 6th look tame.

 

Lol! In your alternate universe....

 

Trump remained in the WH for hours, watching the assault on TV, and refusing to follow the suggestions from his aides to call protesters to stop the assault! He could have stopped it at ounce, but preferred to enjoy watching it on TV for hours! 😆

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Very well said. I have said on here before that the vast majority of those that participated did nothing more violent than walking through the building, maskless, and completely devoid of weapons.

However, to read some of the comments put forth by the Trump haters, every man and woman that participated was a raging anarchist, hell bent on hanging Pence, and overthrowing the government.

It's the last bit that makes a mockery of their faux outrage though. It's as though they actually believe in the nonsense that a few ( among the mainly peaceful crowd ) violent protestors could actually become a government, without any backing from any of the states, police or the military.

 

Sure, don't read comments form Trump haters! You only need to read the rioters' trial accounts and judgements! 🤣

On 3/5/2024 at 7:55 AM, JonnyF said:

Obviously the correct decision.

 

The voters of America need to decide whether they want Trump or not, nobody else.

 

Just like Brexit, attempts to overturn the Democratic will of the people should be shut down immediately. 

What do we even need a constitution for? We should have the people chose every issue, and the largest crowd wins. It worked for Nazi germany why should it not work here?

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

What do we even need a constitution for? We should have the people chose every issue, and the largest crowd wins. It worked for Nazi germany why should it not work here?

Godwin's law 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Godwin's law 

No one called anyone a Nazi

1 hour ago, newnative said:

     After reading the numerous posts debating whether Trump was convicted of rape or, instead, sexual abuse, I found myself thinking, in regard to the Trump defenders, are you even listening to yourselves?  I mean, seriously?  You're struggling to defend someone that, whether it be rape or sexual abuse, should not for a nano second be even remotely considered suitable for any elected office, let alone president of the US.

     It just boggles my mind that we're even having this debate--rape vs. sexual abuse.  Like one would be a deal breaker but not the other.  Ludicrous.  It doesn't matter.  Disqualified, in any sane universe.   Not to mention all his other serious law-breaking.  Sadly, gone are the days when a candidate's wife wearing an expensive coat could threaten to torpedo his chances for election, and necessitate a national speech--with his dog in a supporting role.  And, what a depressing commentary on the state of the US--that significant numbers still see this dreadful, multiple law-breaking individual as worthy to take the reins of the country.  We crossed over into The Twilight Zone in 2016 and, horribly, are still there.

It's the same when they debate whether it was an insurrection or a riot! Either of these things should disqualify Trump but neither do in the eyes of your typical Trumper.

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Well at least we are getting somewhere with your admissions.

 

The problem with all of this is a normal 'disturbance, protest and at times violent, even riot' is exactly that - a riot. But when you aim that 'riot' at a building where Congress meets to write the laws of the nation, and where presidents are inaugurated, you open yourself up for accusations of insurrection - in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

 

I personally don't think it was an insurrection as I don't think the Trump crowd are that well organised or clever enough to mount an insurrection and I don't think for one minute Trump thought things would get as out of hand as they did but he is culperable for the actions of that day by getting the crowd together in the first place, getting them all riled up, pointing them at The Capitol Building and then doing nothing when it was obvious things were getting out of hand.

 

Call it an insurrection; call it a riot, either way it was instigated by Trump and perpetrated by HIS supporters. In that there is no denying and is why this man should never be allowed back into office. Hopefully the American people will now stick the final nail in his coffin and vote Biden come November.    

  

Now give us your opinion on the “mostly peaceful “ summer of love mayhem.

 

Make sure you include Maxine, Nancy and AOC influencers and some of the slogans carried on signs.  I’ve looked bit didn’t notice any “stop the violence “ or similar.

 

Compare the destruction and hate between the two.

 

My crystal ball which I bought to keep up the the other crystal ball owners is telling me when Trump is elected again the mayhem we witnessed during the “mostly peaceful “ summer of love will be repeated x 10.

18 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's the same when they debate whether it was an insurrection or a riot! Either of these things should disqualify Trump but neither do in the eyes of your typical Trumper.

 

But neither allegation disqualifies Trump in the eyes of law. Making up violations, and illegally attempting to convict without trial, of inapplicable law, as a part of leftist lawfare to disenfranchise voters, hasn't worked either. Guess gon' have to suck it up, as Repubs have had to endure and have been forced to pay for Biden's mess. 🙂 

19 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's the same when they debate whether it was an insurrection or a riot! Either of these things should disqualify Trump but neither do in the eyes of your typical Trumper.

      Absolutely!  Not to mention the debate regarding how long he plans to be a dictator if he is re-elected.  I find the whole thing madness that there's even this ridiculous debate going on regarding the degree of his badness.  I wonder just how horribly bad he needs to be before the Trumpets reach a tipping point.  For too many, I suspect the tipping point will never be reached--which is both sad and scary.

1 hour ago, candide said:

Lol! In your alternate universe....

 

Trump remained in the WH for hours, watching the assault on TV, and refusing to follow the suggestions from his aides to call protesters to stop the assault! He could have stopped it at ounce, but preferred to enjoy watching it on TV for hours! 😆

So you haven’t watched the footage of Trump telling the idiots to go home peacefully?

 

Can you explain why Pelosi's aspiring film making daughter “ just happened “ to be there, cameras set up, ready to roll?  Just a coincidence?  I think not.

11 minutes ago, G_Money said:

So you haven’t watched the footage of Trump telling the idiots to go home peacefully?

 

Can you explain why Pelosi's aspiring film making daughter “ just happened “ to be there, cameras set up, ready to roll?  Just a coincidence?  I think not.

Trump spoke after doing nothing for several hours. Neither you nor Trump is fooling anybody.

1 hour ago, newnative said:

     After reading the numerous posts debating whether Trump was convicted of rape or, instead, sexual abuse, I found myself thinking, in regard to the Trump defenders, are you even listening to yourselves?  I mean, seriously?  You're struggling to defend someone that, whether it be rape or sexual abuse, should not for a nano second be even remotely considered suitable for any elected office, let alone president of the US.

     It just boggles my mind that we're even having this debate--rape vs. sexual abuse.  Like one would be a deal breaker but not the other.  Ludicrous.  It doesn't matter.  Disqualified, in any sane universe.   Not to mention all his other serious law-breaking.  Sadly, gone are the days when a candidate's wife wearing an expensive coat could threaten to torpedo his chances for election, and necessitate a national speech--with his dog in a supporting role.  And, what a depressing commentary on the state of the US--that significant numbers still see this dreadful, multiple law-breaking individual as worthy to take the reins of the country.  We crossed over into The Twilight Zone in 2016 and, horribly, are still there.

No conviction of rape or sexual abuse.  No evidence, no DNA, no witnesses, no jury trial.  30, yes 30 years ago.  

 

Only she said, he said in a civil Kangaroo court by a biased Judge just in time for a window of opportunity for the “Get Trump” crowd.

 

As I look into my crystal ball it’s telling me some of you should be careful of what you are wishing and hoping for.

 

The exact same scenario could happen to you.  Those late night walks up the stairs on 6/1 could come back to haunt you, from 1, 5, 10, 20, or yes even 30 years ago.  No evidence or proof needed.

 

Be careful of what you wish for.

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

No conviction of rape or sexual abuse.  No evidence, no DNA, no witnesses, no jury trial.  30, yes 30 years ago.  

 

Only she said, he said in a civil Kangaroo court by a biased Judge just in time for a window of opportunity for the “Get Trump” crowd.

 

As I look into my crystal ball it’s telling me some of you should be careful of what you are wishing and hoping for.

 

The exact same scenario could happen to you.  Those late night walks up the stairs on 6/1 could come back to haunt you, from 1, 5, 10, 20, or yes even 30 years ago.  No evidence or proof needed.

 

Be careful of what you wish for.

And, the badness debate continues . . .