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A nightmare’: North cries out for action amid widespread fires sparked by Hezbollah. 

 

The other Front where Israel is trying to avoid a war. Over 10 civilians and soldiers injured by fire from Hezbollah missiles. The Israeli fore department has reported that after 9 hours of working to contain the fire the overnight blaze is now finally getting under control.  Residents and local authorities in northern Israel demanded Tuesday that the government take clear action to restore security, as bushfires sparked by Hezbollah rockets launched from Lebanon spread across large swaths of territory, with emergency services straining to control the blazes.

More than a dozen fires have broken out in northern Israel and the Galilee as a result of Hezbollah rocket fire.

We will take every measure to protect Israelis from those who try to harm them. pic.twitter.com/aIo4j42PVk

— Israel ישראל (@Israel) June 3, 2024

 

A spokesperson for Kiryat Shmona, where fires lapped overnight at the outskirts of the evacuated border city, lamented that the government was failing to provide even the most basic level of security for residents. Opposition lawmakers panned the government for failing to control what has been an escalating border conflict with the Iran-backed Hezbollah terror group, while far-right ministers declared it was time to go to war in Lebanon, a course of action the government has sought to avoid as Israel is already fighting the Palestinian terror group Hamas in the Gaza Strip, with as yet no clear end to that conflict in sight after eight months of war.

Hezbollah made a terrible mistake.

This is the kind of mistake they were trying to avoid by firing short-range missiles and not long range missiles towards Haifa or Tel Aviv.

This can cause a tipping point of no turning back.

If these fires result in any casualties, it… pic.twitter.com/jPjSmfoquF

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) June 3, 2024

 

The city, along with many other communities close to the Lebanon border, was largely evacuated of residents when Hezbollah began attacking over the boundary on October 8, the day after Palestinian terror group Hamas led a devastating attack on Israel that opened the war in Gaza. Hezbollah, which has reached further and further into northern Israel with increased rocket and drone attacks, says it is acting in support of the Palestinians. As he was talking to Kan, Shnaper said he could hear explosions in the area of the border.

 

Credit: TOS - I24 News 2024-06-04

 

[Neeranam]

The Israeli military continues its bombardment of Gaza, targeting all corners of the strip, resulting in increasing civilian casualties. In Deir el-Balah, an airstrike on an apartment block killed at least nine Palestinians.

 

From the video you can see that the IDF don't care about bombing heavily populated refugee camps .

 

 

Edited June 4 by Neeranam

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The Israeli military continues its bombardment of Gaza, targeting all corners of the strip, resulting in increasing civilian casualties. In Deir el-Balah, an airstrike on an apartment block killed at least nine Palestinians.

 

From the video you can see that the IDF don't care about bombing heavily populated refugee camps .

 

 

Were they Hamas terrorists killed? It looked like a very targeted strike that she said killed at least 6 Palestinians? The IDF does not make precision strikes like that to kill civilians.

[Bkk Brian]

VIDEO: The @IDF has released new footage of a Hamas terror training facility in the Bureij camp in the Gaza Strip. (old vid but evidences Hamas previous bases there)

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

Biden: People have 'every reason' to believe Netanyahu is prolonging Gaza war
The US president said the Israeli prime minister seems to want the war in Gaza to continue for his political survival.

 

US President Joe Biden said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has given people "every reason" to believe he is prolonging the war on Gaza to save his political career.

Biden's remarks, published on Tuesday in an interview with Time Magazine, echoed sentiments regularly voiced by analysts and western officials, suggesting that Netanyahu believes his political fortunes are best served by continuing the war.

"There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion," Biden said, although his administration had just a day earlier laid the blame for a delay in a ceasefire squarely on Hamas.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-biden-every-reason-believe-netanyahu-prolonging-conflict

[Bkk Brian]

More media bias going on with little snippets, context matters.

 

Asked whether Netanyahu wanted the war to continue for his own political self-preservation, Biden initially replied, “I’m not going to comment on that.” But then he said: “There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion.” Biden, however, used the wide-ranging interview to offer qualified support for Netanyahu. He said Hamas was at fault not only for starting the war, but also failing to reach an agreement that could temporarily halt the fighting and lead to hostage releases. He said it was “uncertain” if Israel had committed war crimes. And he pushed back on former President Donald Trump’s criticism that Netanyahu is to blame for allowing the Oct. 7 attack to happen on his watch.

 

Time Interview

‘We Are the World Power.’ How Joe Biden Leads

 

Time full transcript

https://time.com/6984968/joe-biden-transcript-2024-interview/

https://archive.ph/jkeUc

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11 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

More media bias going on with little snippets, context matters.

 

Asked whether Netanyahu wanted the war to continue for his own political self-preservation, Biden initially replied, “I’m not going to comment on that.” But then he said: “There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion.” Biden, however, used the wide-ranging interview to offer qualified support for Netanyahu. He said Hamas was at fault not only for starting the war, but also failing to reach an agreement that could temporarily halt the fighting and lead to hostage releases. He said it was “uncertain” if Israel had committed war crimes. And he pushed back on former President Donald Trump’s criticism that Netanyahu is to blame for allowing the Oct. 7 attack to happen on his watch.

 

Time Interview

‘We Are the World Power.’ How Joe Biden Leads

 

Time full transcript

https://time.com/6984968/joe-biden-transcript-2024-interview/

https://archive.ph/jkeUc

So, on the one hand, Biden said it was "uncertain" that Israel had committed war crimes, but on the other he's condemned the ICJ for indicting 3 Israelis involved in the prosecution of the war.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So, on the one hand, Biden said it was "uncertain" that Israel had committed war crimes, but on the other he's condemned the ICJ for indicting 3 Israelis involved in the prosecution of the war.

He's uncertain what he had for breakfast. 

He is totally biased towards Israel. 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So, on the one hand, Biden said it was "uncertain" that Israel had committed war crimes, but on the other he's condemned the ICJ for indicting 3 Israelis involved in the prosecution of the war.

Actually its the ICC not ICJ and yes Biden was condemning them for being outrageous and with "no equivalence — none — between Israel and Hamas". The specific ICC arrest warrant charges are not warranted in his opinion, that does not mean Israel or any individual battalions or soldiers may have not committed other war crimes. Not sure what so difficult to understand about that.

 

There are a few ICC and ICJ topics going round if you want to expand on this with me.

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Actually its the ICC not ICJ and yes Biden was condemning them for being outrageous and with "no equivalence — none — between Israel and Hamas". The specific ICC arrest warrant charges are not warranted in his opinion, that does not mean Israel or any individual battalions or soldiers may have not committed other war crimes. Not sure what so difficult to understand about that.

 

There are a few ICC and ICJ topics going round if you want to expand on this with me.

Given that he claims that the commission of war crimes is uncertain, how can he be so categorical in his statements? We do know that several experts in the State Dept resigned in protest of the exoneration by the State Dept of the supply situation in Gaza after the State Dept took the investigation out of their hands.

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given that he claims that the commission of war crimes is uncertain, how can he be so categorical in his statements? We do know that several experts in the State Dept resigned in protest of the exoneration by the State Dept of the supply situation in Gaza after the State Dept took the investigation out of their hands.

Given that he claims that the commission of war crimes is uncertain, how can he be so categorical in his statements? 

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

There are a few ICC and ICJ topics going round if you want to expand on this with me.

 

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Given that he claims that the commission of war crimes is uncertain, how can he be so categorical in his statements? 

 

Thanks for the invitation.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, placeholder said:

Thanks for the invitation.

Ok 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Given that he claims that the commission of war crimes is uncertain, how can he be so categorical in his statements? We do know that several experts in the State Dept resigned in protest of the exoneration by the State Dept of the supply situation in Gaza after the State Dept took the investigation out of their hands.

I think one's on CNN and the other two went to CNBC. 

[Jeff the Chef]

Israel Secretly Targets U.S. Lawmakers With Influence Campaign on Gaza War

Israel’s Ministry of Diaspora Affairs ordered the operation, which used fake social media accounts urging U.S. lawmakers to fund Israel’s military, according to officials and documents about the effort.

 

Israel organized and paid for an influence campaign last year targeting U.S. lawmakers and the American public with pro-Israel messaging, as it aimed to foster support for its actions in the war with Gaza, according to officials involved in the effort and documents related to the operation.

The covert campaign was commissioned by Israel’s Ministry of Diaspora Affairs, a government body that connects Jews around the world with the State of Israel, four Israeli officials said. The ministry allocated about $2 million to the operation and hired Stoic, a political marketing firm in Tel Aviv, to carry it out, according to the officials and the documents.

The campaign began in October and remains active on the platform X. At its peak, it used hundreds of fake accounts that posed as real Americans on X, Facebook and Instagram to post pro-Israel comments. The accounts focused on U.S. lawmakers, particularly ones who are Black and Democrats, such as Representative Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader from New York, and Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia, with posts urging them to continue funding Israel’s military.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/technology/israel-campaign-gaza-social-media.html?unlocked_article_code=1.xU0.K-9d.nc6wnV7jy8jG&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&u2g=i&sgrp=c-cb

[Yellowtail]

Is there any shortage of Hamas supporters lobbying congress?  

[Neeranam]

Meanwhile in Jerusalem…

 

Israelis stoking the war by chanting “Mohammed is dead” and “death to Arabs”.
 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-nationalists-chant-death-to-arabs-in-annual-jerusalem-day-march-through-palestinian-area-of-the-city

[Bkk Brian]

This isn't a local war between Israel and Hamas. Israel is under attack on seven fronts by Iran and its proxy armies, including the Houthi Pirates of Yemen.

 

10 wounded after Hezbollah drone makes impact in Horfesh, northern Israel

 

 

[Neeranam]

 

The Government Media Office in Gaza said at least 27 people were killed and dozens injured in strike on a school sheltering displaced people in the Nuseirat refugee camp 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/6/israels-war-on-gaza-live-relentless-israeli-strikes-kill-102-palestinians

[Bkk Brian]

More terrorists using UNRWA schools eliminated!

 

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1798519902846005477

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/5/2024 at 2:53 AM, Jeff the Chef said:

Biden: People have 'every reason' to believe Netanyahu is prolonging Gaza war
The US president said the Israeli prime minister seems to want the war in Gaza to continue for his political survival.

 

US President Joe Biden said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has given people "every reason" to believe he is prolonging the war on Gaza to save his political career.

Biden's remarks, published on Tuesday in an interview with Time Magazine, echoed sentiments regularly voiced by analysts and western officials, suggesting that Netanyahu believes his political fortunes are best served by continuing the war.

"There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion," Biden said, although his administration had just a day earlier laid the blame for a delay in a ceasefire squarely on Hamas.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-biden-every-reason-believe-netanyahu-prolonging-conflict

Most of us knew that already, so the question now is what is Biden going to do about it?

[Jeff the Chef]

An Israeli air strike on a UN school packed with hundreds of displaced people in central Gaza has killed more than 20 people, local residents say.

The Israeli military said it carried out a strike on a UN school that housed a "Hamas compound".

Local journalists told the BBC that an Israeli warplane fired two missiles at classrooms on the top floor of the school in the Nuseirat refugee camp.

The Hamas media office said at least 27 people were killed and accused Israel of committing a "horrific massacre".

Ambulances and rescue teams have been rushing the wounded and dead to a nearby hospital.

Footage on social media showed destroyed classrooms and dead bodies wrapped in shrouds at a morgue.

"Enough war! We have been displaced dozens of times. They killed our children while they were sleeping," a woman injured in the attack screamed in one video.

Ismail al-Thawabta, director of the Hamas media office, rejected Israel's claims that the UN school had hidden a Hamas command post.

"The occupation uses ... false fabricated stories to justify the brutal crime it conducted against dozens of displaced people," he told Reuters.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said jets had conducted a "precise strike on a Hamas compound embedded inside an UNRWA school in the area of Nuseirat".

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crggq0jygq6o

[coolcarer]

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

 

The Government Media Office in Gaza said at least 27 people were killed and dozens injured in strike on a school sheltering displaced people in the Nuseirat refugee camp 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/6/israels-war-on-gaza-live-relentless-israeli-strikes-kill-102-palestinians

Really….lol

 

The Gov media office is Hamas. Not even the UN use their figures anymore. They only use the confirmed Hamas Health Authority. 
 

May as well quote local terrorists next time. 

[Jeff the Chef]

On 6/4/2024 at 8:33 PM, Social Media said:

Topic UpDate: ‘

 

A nightmare’: North cries out for action amid widespread fires sparked by Hezbollah. 

 

The other Front where Israel is trying to avoid a war. Over 10 civilians and soldiers injured by fire from Hezbollah missiles. The Israeli fore department has reported that after 9 hours of working to contain the fire the overnight blaze is now finally getting under control.  Residents and local authorities in northern Israel demanded Tuesday that the government take clear action to restore security, as bushfires sparked by Hezbollah rockets launched from Lebanon spread across large swaths of territory, with emergency services straining to control the blazes.

 

A spokesperson for Kiryat Shmona, where fires lapped overnight at the outskirts of the evacuated border city, lamented that the government was failing to provide even the most basic level of security for residents. Opposition lawmakers panned the government for failing to control what has been an escalating border conflict with the Iran-backed Hezbollah terror group, while far-right ministers declared it was time to go to war in Lebanon, a course of action the government has sought to avoid as Israel is already fighting the Palestinian terror group Hamas in the Gaza Strip, with as yet no clear end to that conflict in sight after eight months of war.

 

The city, along with many other communities close to the Lebanon border, was largely evacuated of residents when Hezbollah began attacking over the boundary on October 8, the day after Palestinian terror group Hamas led a devastating attack on Israel that opened the war in Gaza. Hezbollah, which has reached further and further into northern Israel with increased rocket and drone attacks, says it is acting in support of the Palestinians. As he was talking to Kan, Shnaper said he could hear explosions in the area of the border.

 

Credit: TOS - I24 News 2024-06-04

 

 

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has threatened an “extremely powerful” response to attacks by Hezbollah from Lebanon, which have escalated in recent days.

A few hours after Netanyahu spoke, drones fired by Hezbollah from Lebanon struck the northern Israeli town of Hurfeish, in the Upper Galilee region, which has a largely Druze population, injuring 11 Israelis, one critically. There were several explosions and reports that air raid alarms had not been activated.

Earlier this week Hezbollah launched a wave of attacks that set off substantial fires, which were fanned by dry and powerful winds. Television footage from the area of Kiryat Shmona showed firestorms engulfing nearby forests. Emergency services struggled for two days to bring the fires under control.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/05/netanyahu-israel-hezbollah-attacks

[Jeff the Chef]

Looks like Bi-Bi might need to uprate the Irondome System before he unleashes the Dogs of War on Hezbollah:

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Walk through and demolition of one of the tunnels from Rafah to Egypt that was used to smuggle weapons into Gaza.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

IDF says 20-30 terrorists were sheltering in UNRWA school targeted in Gaza

The IDF estimates that between 20 and 30 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists were gathered at the UN school in central Gaza’s Nuseirat when it was struck overnight.

Members of the terror groups were in three classrooms, separate from an area where civilians were sheltering.

The strike was delayed twice as the military says it worked to fine-tune the plan to avoid harming civilians.

Israel has repeatedly accused Hamas of using schools and other civilian infrastructure in the Strip, including where civilians are sheltering, for terror activity.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-20-30-terrorists-killed-in-strike-on-un-school-in-central-gazas-nuseirat/

[Neeranam]

Spain applies to join South Africa’s case at top UN court accusing Israel of genocide

 

https://apnews.com/article/spain-israel-icj-genocide-case-67d4d9b8ecf6fd88e718319a5d93465a

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Looks like Bi-Bi might need to uprate the Irondome System before he unleashes the Dogs of War on Hezbollah:

 

 

 

   Hezbollah hit the missiles launchers with a green cross ?

There's no explosion in the video , the video just gets turned off 

[0ffshore360]

Israel has lost any cause for empathy  from me as it continues  what can only be a deliberate slow genocide of the  Gazan population. The excuse that the IDF will continue until Hamas is eradicated as policy is only an excuse to repeatedly inflict indiscriminate inhumane treatment on women and children and deny basic necessities of life.

Before anyone  trots out the antisemitism deflection it  need be acknowledged that even after the very recent reinforcement of US policy on the subject it was also reiterated that criticism of Israel is NOT antisemitic.