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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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Horrific, just released by the family of one of the hostages, video is too graphic to post but in the link.

 

Hostage family releases video of Gazans kicking abducted dead body of Eitan Levy

The family of Eitan Levy, who was killed and kidnapped to Gaza on October 7, has released graphic footage of Gazans abusing the dead body of the captive.

The video, published on Instagram, shows Gazans seeing the body in a half-opened trunk of a car, and then excitedly chasing after it. The footage then cuts to Gazans kicking Levy’s body lying on the ground.

In a statement carried by Ynet, the family says they decided to share the video of the “lynch,” adding that the video is “proof that there is no innocent civilian in Gaza.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hostage-family-releases-video-of-gazans-kicking-abducted-dead-body-of-eitan-levy/

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    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

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    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

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    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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On 8/2/2024 at 9:34 AM, placeholder said:

First off, you think that full resupply can happen in a month? 

And there's this:

Israel’s military, worn down by Gaza, looks warily toward war in Lebanon
As Israel trades threats with Hezbollah, there are fears that the military is overstretched and its resources depleted after nine months of war against Hamas.

https://archive.ph/IC5qb#selection-515.0-519.158

Second off who said they need a full resupply?

On 7/31/2024 at 7:19 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Once the arrest warrant has been issued for netanyahu, do you agree that he should front up at the ICC if he is innocent of the charges?

Come back and ask me when the arrest warrant is issued. What exists now is the opinion of  Karim Khan, a prosecutor.This opinion  is legally questionable and is not final.  As a reminder, in his capacity as ICC representative leading prosecutions against ISIL in Iraq in 2021, he did not bring any significant islamic jihadists to justice. He did however, achieve his fame defending mass murderer Charles Taylor, the despotic cannibal strongman of Liberia. He also represented Sudanese rebel leader Bahr Idriss Abu Garda in the case where Garda's  group undertook a mass murder of  OAU peacekeepers,  and he was the Lead Counsel for Saif al-Islam Gaddaf, the Libyan murderer. No doubt that he is a competent counsel. Unfortunately, he seems a man of curious actions. 

12 hours ago, connda said:

Here we go.  Rah rah rah, or as Graham's good buddy John McCain loved to sing to the Beach Boys hit "Barbara Ann,"  "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!" 

So the benefactors of the million$ and million$ of U$D dumped into the personal campaign finances and $uperPAC$ of guys like Graham are now going to pay off for the Corporate War Industry referred to by President Dwight D. Eisenhower as the Military Industry Complex, is now going to drag us into a multi-front world war with the Middle East as it's catalyst.  I guess all my Christian friends with their eschatological ("I can't wait for the Rapture") world-view regarding Armageddon might actually have hit the nail on the head.  Back in the day the trope was that the forces of Good & Evil would fight it out on the Palestinian lands claimed by Israel as "The Promise Lands."
Of course the line-up was something like this years ago, like back in the 1960s:

Forces Of Good:
Christian White Americans, Christian White Europeans, Other White Christian Colonists, Israeli Jews
Forces Of Evil:

Atheist Commie Ruskies and Atheist Commie Chinese Plus the Rest of the Commies, as well as the Commie Muslim Arabs and all the rest of the Commies

Now that line-up has changed just a bit.  Sorta looks like this:
Forces Of Good:
Americans, Europeans, NATO, What's Left Of Their Colonies, Western Christians except for Eastern Orthodox Christians, Israeli Zionists, Atheists Who Love War, The WEF and the Billionaire-class, Globo-Capitalist including Wall Street, the "Defense Industry," and the MIC.
Forces Of Evil:
Russia, Chinese, Iranians, DPRK, Cubans, Venezuelans, Muslim Arabs, Persians, Turks, Chechans, All Shia Muslims, Slavic Orthodox Christians, All Muslims Not Aligned With The West, BRICS Nations and potential BRICS+ nations who won't take to knee to the West including the Global South and ex-colonial nations who won't sign off on the Zelinsky Peace Plan or calling genocide "Self-Defense"

So when the bovine excrement hits the spinning blades in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Yeman and the first hypersonic missile hits the deck of a US aircraft carrier in the Med, that will drag in everyone else into the cosmic commode <cue flushing sounds> especially if Israel nukes Southern Lebanon.  Once that happens, global restraint is off the table and I doubt that any of the "Forces Of Evil" will see any point in not dragging the US, EU, UK, AU, and NZ into a multi-front World War on their own turf.  But the Western Christians will be baking unleavened bread, marking their doors with lamb's blood, and making animal sacrifices to show their obeisance to their supernatural Creator-in-the-Sky who will "smite" their enemies, the "Forces Of Evil," and throw them into pools of hell-fire and brimstone forever and ever and ever, while giving their worshipers wings to fly to "Rapture" out of harms way and avoid the slaughter on the ground where the Middle East used to be.

Prologue:
The Forces Of Good win, the Forces Of Evil Lose as a beautiful multi-color sun sets over a burning cider where thermonuclear "global-warming" has just taken place.  And the future "Morlocks" as as snug as a bug in a rug in their Continuity Of Goverance bunkers a mile or so underground, all waiting for the day when they can reemerge and fire off what is left in their nuclear arsenals.

So have at it.  The human race are war-like and always have been.  Nuclear weapons in the hands of humans is like a box of locked and loaded SAW M249's in the hands of a pack of chimpanzees.  What possibly could go wrong. 

Thermonuclear BBQ anyone?  Graham has firing up the grill!
 

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-812801

 

 

The simplistic labeling of various interest groups only serves to support your biased views. How about you deal with the existing facts;

Iran is a supporter of international terrorist groups. The October 7 attack on Israel was in large part intended to prevent the normalization of relations with KSA and continued building of a relationship with North African Arab  states.  Iran is not an Arab nation and has always been at odds with most Arab nations in large part because it is Shiite and the Arabs tend to be Sunni, the original Islamic faith. When the Arabs were at war with Israel, Iran was a strong Israeli ally. When the Arabs started making peace, Iran  was an enemy of Israel. it also  warred with other Arabs.  Iran is an international troublemaker, meddling in the foreign affairs of the Arab world and supporting reactionary Shiite groups.

 

The hand of Turkiye is not far removed either. As the former colonial oppressor of the Arab world it still harbors designs over regaining its influence. It is Turkiye that is one of the principal reasons why the Arab world was left in a mess. It was the Ottoman Empire that controlled  what we now call Syria and Lebanon today. Israel was a department of Damascus and there was no "Palestine". There was Arabia. The Arabs rose up and with the support of France and Great Britain gained their independence after WWI.  Jordan, the land now called  the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,  Lebanon, (carved out of  Ottoman Assyria), and the current nation of Israel all owe their creation to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the ensuing British, French and Arab agreement. Erdogan mourns his nation's loss of influence. He is angry that Israel is developing the oil and gas fields in Israeli territorial waters with Egypt, Greece and Cyprus. Turkey uses  Iran to further its own political interests as  disorder in the Arab world gives Turkyie an opportunity to have influence.

 

The despotic mullahs are the source of the problems and they must be removed. The Iranian people have been denied an opportunity to have anything other than an Islamic dictatorship since the overthrow of  the Shah. Give the Iranians a chance to choose, and they may very well remain an Islamic state, but they would most likely choose to have their  oil revenues directed to social services and development rather than terrorism and war.  if there is a war, it will be  because of Iranian aggression. The Arab world for the most part won't care if Iran is neutralized, and on the contrary will most likely covertly assist.  

 

 

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