4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why would Israel be the only Country in the World ever to be able to avoid civilian casualties in a war ?

Because Jew haters think Jews should be bound by a different standard.  Such people also criticized when Jews were too passive as in WW2. You can't win with Jew haters. Thus, the IDF does what it needs to do regardless.

Canada stops arms shipments to Israel (lemonde.fr)

 

Israel’s closest allies are beginning to distance themselves from the plausible genocide in Gaza by halting arms shipment to Israel.

 

This while at the same time resuming UNRWA funding and increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza out of feeling of guilt.  Canada is now following Spain and Beljium to name a few.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They both cannot live together , so there will either be a never ending war or one side has to go .

Then the other side can live peacefully 

 

I agree with you, but there could be a two-state solution, like the one the UN proposed in 1947/8. I would support that. Of course, I don't live in either place and don't ever intend to go there. 

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Because it would demonstrate that you have a reasonable point of view. The notion that the Palestinians don't want their own state is patently BS.

 

Palestinians now have good reason to oppose an Israeli state. Using famine as a weapon is inexcusable.

 

 

 

 

Of course the Palestinians want their own state -- with Israel gone!

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Because Jew haters think Jews should be bound by a different standard.  Such people also criticized when Jews were too passive as in WW2. You can't win with Jew haters. Thus, the IDF does what it needs to do regardless.

 

That's right, hide behind religion as an excuse to avoid acknowledging the obvious.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

That's right, hide behind religion as an excuse to avoid acknowledging the obvious.

Not religion. Ethnicity.

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nonsense. Out of that figure 30k more than 13,000 are Hamas terrorists who were killed

And, what is the value of 13,000 Hamas terrorists? Do they have less value than one Jewish child hostage? 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Of course the Palestinians want their own state -- with Israel gone!

 

Understandable. After ww2 everyone wanted the nazis gone. Not Germany, but the nazi leadership.

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I agree with you, but there could be a two-state solution, like the one the UN proposed in 1947/8. I would support that. Of course, I don't live in either place and don't ever intend to go there. 

"You would support that", who are you....?......🤔      

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not religion. Ethnicity.

 

Religion. You invoked the name of their religion. No ethnicity is a religion.

 

And, for the record, I oppose any theocracy.

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Perhaps because they were moral and valued the lives of ALL people?  You think? 

 

   Its nothing to do with morals or intent . During war situations in public areas, the public will get caught up in the conflict and become causalities , especially if one side hides behind the civilians in public buildings 

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nonsense. Out of that figure 30k more than 13,000 are Hamas terrorists who were killed

 Of course you have proof of that statement?

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Religion. You invoked the name of their religion. No ethnicity is a religion.

You post so much about this conflct, and you don't know anything about the Jewish people and their history. Bizarre!

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Because Jew haters think Jews should be bound by a different standard.  Such people also criticized when Jews were too passive as in WW2. You can't win with Jew haters. Thus, the IDF does what it needs to do regardless.

I think you've written the truth here. Israel feels so threatened as Jews and believes there are so many in the world that hate them, they believe anything they do, even atrocities, are justified because, in the past, atrocities were committed against them.

Just now, Jingthing said:

You post so much about this conflct, and you don't know anything about the Jewish people and their history. Bizarre!

 

You have no clue what I know., Stop the trash talk. Debate the issues in good faith or stop annoying everybody with your abject partisanship.

 

 

Just now, WDSmart said:

I think you've written the truth here. Israel feels so threatened as Jews and believes there are so many in the world that hate them, they believe anything they do, even atrocities, are justified because, in the past, atrocities were committed against them.

The Jew hatred is real, not imagined.

I don't agre that means that atrocities are justified.

That's just part of your demonization narrative.

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I think you've written the truth here. Israel feels so threatened as Jews and believes there are so many in the world that hate them, they believe anything they do, even atrocities, are justified because, in the past, atrocities were committed against them.

 

1500 year old score settling.

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

And, what is the value of 13,000 Hamas terrorists? Do they have less value than one Jewish child hostage? 

What on earth has that to do with pointing out the lies that 30000 civilians have been killed

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

You have no clue what I know., Stop the trash talk. Debate the issues in good faith or stop annoying everybody with your abject partisanship.

 

 

You exposed your ignorance here by asserting that Jew just means religion.

Just now, Jingthing said:

The Jew hatred is real, not imagined.

I don't agre that means that atrocities are justified.

That's just part of your demonization narrative.

 

The US claims that famine threatens 1200% of the Palestinian population. Are they wrong?

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

You exposed your ignorance here by asserting that Jew just means religion.

 

It absolutely does. Find me a dictionary definition that says otherwise.

6 minutes ago, transam said:

"You would support that", who are you....?......🤔      

I am me. I judge what they do, and I express my opinions. 

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Rubbish. The Romans called it Syria Palaestina, and the British referred to the area as Palestine.

There never was a country called Palestine. It was a REGION, nothing else. Populated with Arabs and Jews. A paltestinian citizenship never existed in histoy.

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Yes, they are Arabs and they live in Palestine.

...as the Jews did an do.

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Trying to deflect does not change the fact that Gaza was not included in the 1948 UN designated area for israel. Israel has no legal right to it.

Israel has imho no intention to occupy Gaza permanently. They went in to fight Hamas-killers. It's their good right to act in self defence and whipe out those disgusting terrorists.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

The US claims that famine threatens 1200% of the Palestinian population. Are they wrong?

 

1200 percent? HUH?

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It absolutely does. Find me a dictionary definition that says otherwise.

Doubling down on your ignorance. Amazing!

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 Of course you have proof of that statement?

That's not how this works. He claimed 30,000 civilians have been killed by IDF, he needs to provide proof of that first. He can't because its not true. Yes I can provide a credible link to the deaths of 13,000 of those being Hamas terrorists in turn.

6 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Canada stops arms shipments to Israel (lemonde.fr)

 

Israel’s closest allies are beginning to distance themselves from the plausible genocide in Gaza by halting arms shipment to Israel.

 

This while at the same time resuming UNRWA funding and increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza out of feeling of guilt.  Canada is now following Spain and Beljium to name a few.

 

   Its really just for show .

Canada sent Israel 15 million US $ worth of military equipment in 2022 , the USA gave about 4 Billion $ .

   Wont make hardly any difference at all 

23 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

All your arguments about immigrating elsewhere could also apply to the Israelis. 

I did not talk about immigration, Thaibeachlover did.

I just said, Egypt could open it's border for civilian refugees and I ask myself, why they are not willing to help their arab brothers.

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It absolutely does. Find me a dictionary definition that says otherwise.

I've addressed this before. 
 

"Jew" is used to describe BOTH an ethnicity and religious practice. The comparison would be between "Arab" and "Muslim," which are two terms. I've suggested that instead of using the term "Jew" for their ethnicity, the term "Hebrew" would be easier to distinguish whether you are referring to the ethnicity or religion. But, of course, for suggesting that, I was called "antisemitic."

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

That's not how this works. He claimed 30,000 civilians have been killed by IDF, he needs to provide proof of that first. He can't because its not true. Yes I can provide a credible link to the deaths of 13,000 of those being Hamas terrorists in turn.

No, of course I don't know that Israel is guilty of lies, they are as pure as the driven snow:

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/01/11/israel/palestine-unprecedented-killings-repression#:~:text=In the West Bank%2C Israeli,UN began systematically recording fatalities.