Biden to deliver high-stakes State of the Union address: Live updates

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Even Maga Mike stood up and appauled a few times. It was an execellent SOTU speech ladened with fiery defense of democracry, economy and the border and policies for the betterment of the American people. 

And it was throughout a positive message, no doom, despondency or scapegoating and not a single dog whistle

[retarius]

I'm not a Biden fan. I think he is a criminal and senile, but he did much better than I expected. Still he told a bunch of lies. And he still has blood on his hands in Ukraine and Gaza. 

Trump's position on Gaza is as deplorable as Biden's but his position on shutting down the money flow to corrupt Ukraine is one I wholeheartedly endorse and is may #1 issue. Trump will get my vote on November if Biden's corrupt DoJ allow him to stand.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And yet...  he is STILL losing to said charlatan.

 

Any idea why Joe isn't up by double digits?
 

Except he isn’t.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, proton said:

No explanation or excuses why he has let millions of illegals just walk right in over the southern border, a situation he is totally responsible for.

You missed tge bit about Republicans supporting the bi-partisan boarder security bill and then suddenly pulling their support after a phone call from the Orange One?

[Dolf]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

I donno but as long as he is getting those outstanding results across the board say whatever they like!stocks/inflation/legistation/nato/unemployment…and on and on!!! 

37% support. Worst since Truman

 

[John Drake]

Arrested.

 

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State of the Union: Gold Star dad whose son died during U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan arrested for heckling Biden

 

A man who heckled President Biden during his State of the Union address on Thursday night was removed by Capitol Police officers and arrested, the U.S. Capitol Police confirmed in a statement to Yahoo News.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-of-the-union-gold-star-dad-whose-son-died-during-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-arrested-for-heckling-biden-050919369.html

 

Edited March 8 by John Drake

[G_Money]

37 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You watched it, and that is what you wrote?

 

Go and read the transcript. It should be clear to anyone with a room temperature of better IQ.

 

Biden detailed the accomplishments, which can be checked against data from govt depts and agencies such as BEA, BLS, Treasury, etc.

 

He clearly outlined a future of more job creation, cleaner environment, stronger NATO, standing against the attacks on freedom such as taking women's rights away, bringing even more manufacturing jobs back home than the 800,000 already done under him....

 

Really, it is incomprehensible how you could write what you wrote.

Your posts are getting shorter.  Good job!

 

However, content is still lacking.

 

 

[G_Money]

21 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It was a great speech, detailing the major differences between Biden and trump:

 

---Biden actually gets things done, trump only has slogans and empty promises (like Mexico paying for a wall that was never built)

---Biden wants to protect freedoms, trump wants to take freedoms away, especially women's freedom

 

trumpers can bark all they want, offering nothing as is their norm, but rather than shout 'gaslighting' or some other silly rant, they can check official USG websites to show that what Biden detailed as accomplishments are fact.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-union-address-transcript-read-030211757.html

 

From the transcript we can see:

 

Biden inherited the trump Recession; the economy is going gangbusters now, the highest growth since the Clinton years.

 

"15 million new jobs in 3 years

A record 16 million Americans are starting small businesses and each one is an act of hope.

800,000 new manufacturing jobs in America and counting.

More people have health insurance today than ever before.

The racial wealth gap is the smallest it’s been in 20 years.

Wages keep going up and inflation keeps coming down!

Inflation has dropped from 9% to 3% – the lowest in the world!"

 

The cost of insulin for seniors---many of whom are overweight trumpers---has dropped from $400/month to $35/month

 

The infrastructure is being rebuilt, as opposed to trump's endless Infrastructure Weeks that never happened

 

Getting the Chips Act passed means new chip plants (with jobs paying over $100,000 per year) are being built in the US, the first new chip plants in decades, and making the US less dependent on unstable supply chains.

 

Biden noted that he worked out a bipartisan border and immigration Bill with conservative Senate Republicans, a Bill that would add funding to securing the border, hiring more agents, hiring Immigration officers, installing drug detection equipment, etc., but in the end Repubs blocked it. And why?

 

"I’m told my predecessor called Republicans in Congress and demanded they block the bill. He feels it would be a political win for me and a political loser for him."---from the transcript

 

Another key point from the transcript:

 

"The year before I took office, murders went up 30% nationwide the biggest increase in history.

That was then.

Now, through my American Rescue Plan, which every Republican voted against, I’ve made the largest investment in public safety ever.

Last year, the murder rate saw the sharpest decrease in history, and violent crime fell to one of the lowest levels in more than 50 years."

 

Then there's the rebuilt NATO, the entity standing up against putin's heinous aggression in Ukraine. Finland is now a member, and just yesterday, Sweden joined. Putin want's NATO to fail. So does trump.

 

Biden has major accomplishment and a detailed outline (read the transcript) for the future. trump has only slogans and vindictiveness.

 

I jumped the gun too soon in my previous reply concerning length.  I stand corrected.

 

Still accurate regarding lack of accuracy.

 

Nothing new.

Edited March 8 by G_Money

[Dolf]

400 people looking silly in suits. Go do some real work.

[Hanaguma]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except he isn’t.

No?　The　polls say otherwise. Of course a lot could change between now and November. But why isn't Biden running away with it if his opponent is so incompetent?

[transam]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

400 people looking silly in suits. Go do some real work.

.................Reads like you have been wearing shorts and flip-flops for way to long, BN..............

[candide]

20 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It was a great speech, detailing the major differences between Biden and trump:

 

---Biden actually gets things done, trump only has slogans and empty promises (like Mexico paying for a wall that was never built)

---Biden wants to protect freedoms, trump wants to take freedoms away, especially women's freedom

 

trumpers can bark all they want, offering nothing as is their norm, but rather than shout 'gaslighting' or some other silly rant, they can check official USG websites to show that what Biden detailed as accomplishments are fact.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-union-address-transcript-read-030211757.html

 

From the transcript we can see:

 

Biden inherited the trump Recession; the economy is going gangbusters now, the highest growth since the Clinton years.

 

"15 million new jobs in 3 years

A record 16 million Americans are starting small businesses and each one is an act of hope.

800,000 new manufacturing jobs in America and counting.

More people have health insurance today than ever before.

The racial wealth gap is the smallest it’s been in 20 years.

Wages keep going up and inflation keeps coming down!

Inflation has dropped from 9% to 3% – the lowest in the world!"

 

The cost of insulin for seniors---many of whom are overweight trumpers---has dropped from $400/month to $35/month

 

The infrastructure is being rebuilt, as opposed to trump's endless Infrastructure Weeks that never happened

 

Getting the Chips Act passed means new chip plants (with jobs paying over $100,000 per year) are being built in the US, the first new chip plants in decades, and making the US less dependent on unstable supply chains.

 

Biden noted that he worked out a bipartisan border and immigration Bill with conservative Senate Republicans, a Bill that would add funding to securing the border, hiring more agents, hiring Immigration officers, installing drug detection equipment, etc., but in the end Repubs blocked it. And why?

 

"I’m told my predecessor called Republicans in Congress and demanded they block the bill. He feels it would be a political win for me and a political loser for him."---from the transcript

 

Another key point from the transcript:

 

"The year before I took office, murders went up 30% nationwide the biggest increase in history.

That was then.

Now, through my American Rescue Plan, which every Republican voted against, I’ve made the largest investment in public safety ever.

Last year, the murder rate saw the sharpest decrease in history, and violent crime fell to one of the lowest levels in more than 50 years."

 

Then there's the rebuilt NATO, the entity standing up against putin's heinous aggression in Ukraine. Finland is now a member, and just yesterday, Sweden joined. Putin want's NATO to fail. So does trump.

 

Biden has major accomplishment and a detailed outline (read the transcript) for the future. trump has only slogans and vindictiveness.

 

The best post-Covid recovery among G7 countries, by large!

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

[JonnyF]

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Pointing out that Russia or anywhere else has lower prescription drug prices than the U.S. is not ‘bogging up’ any of those places.

 

"Bogging up"?  

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

No?　The　polls say otherwise. Of course a lot could change between now and November. But why isn't Biden running away with it if his opponent is so incompetent?

The polls.

 

Meanwhile the vote returns in the Primaries are bucking the polls, Trump under performing against the polls and Biden over performing against the polls.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Dolf said:

400 people looking silly in suits. Go do some real work.

399.

 

MTG came dressed as a clown.

[Dolf]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The polls.

 

Meanwhile the vote returns in the Primaries are bucking the polls, Trump under performing against the polls and Biden over performing against the polls.

 

 

Trump is smashing biden

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

"Bogging up"?  

Thanks for pointing out my typo.

 

I don’t make typos deliberately but I do understand they are appreciated by some in need of a chance to be occasionally right about something.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

31 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And yet...  he is STILL losing to said charlatan.

 

Any idea why Joe isn't up by double digits?
 

That might change a bit after day. The narrative which I felt a bit too, is he really is a befuddled tired elderly man, but he was like the Biden of old. Many voters want to feel respected by having a decent candidate and he showed to a fair degree he is that and he still has a bit in the tank. 

Edited March 8 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Trump is smashing biden

Not when it comes to that real show of appreciation ’fund raising’ he isn’t.

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

Russia is much cheaper than they.S.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2019/11/22/us-ranks-1-in-the-world-for-sky-high-cost-of-vital-medicines

 

I wasn't saying it was factually incorrect.

 

I was saying it was a strange choice of country to praise in the circumstances.

 

Given recent events, I suspect he meant to say another city and got mixed up. He did make relatively few mistakes though, by his standards. I guess they got the Koolaid right... 

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not when it comes to that real show of appreciation ’fund raising’ he isn’t.

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Imagine wanting Trump has president. Does your head in. What's wrong with you guys. Pick some other republican. God. 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thanks for pointing out my typo.

 

I don’t make typos deliberately but I do understand they are appreciated by some in need of a chance to be occasionally right about something.

 

I wasn't sure if it was a typo, attempting another strawman by changing my words or simply very confused again, like you were with the difference between automatic gearboxes and self drive cars in the other thread. 

 

But yes, complimenting the captial of Russia on their low prescription prices was a very unusual choice. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

I wasn't saying it was factually incorrect.

 

I was saying it was a strange choice of country to praise in the circumstances.

 

Given recent events, I suspect he meant to say another city and got mixed up. He did make relatively few mistakes though, by his standards. I guess they got the Koolaid right... 

He was clearly using the rhetorical device of verbal irony.

 

‘Americans paying high prices for prescription drugs while even in Russia’.

 

Sorry that his excellent speech performance disappointed you.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Dolf said:

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls

There is only one poll that matters, that’ll be in November.

 

Fund raising matters now.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I wasn't sure if it was a typo, attempting another strawman by changing my words or simply very confused again, like you were with the difference between automatic gearboxes and self drive cars in the other thread. 

 

But yes, complimenting the captial of Russia on their low prescription prices was a very unusual choice. 

I’m sure you’ll figure it out eventually, or cling onto it as a treasured victory never to be forgotten.

[Dolf]

He says Trump is "paying politics". It's playing Joe. Mumbling nonsense.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

World leader will meet with Trump — not Biden — during US trip to discuss foreign policy

The world is moving towards the 'right'.  People more and more do not accept the BS of inclusiveness, diversity and social justice causes - they want law and order, national intergrity including strong borders, and conservative social values restored.  For over 3 decades the 'progressives' have been winning more than the conservatives, but as seen in the last few years with Argentina, Sweden, Finland, Greece, etc etc - the conservatives are winning more often than not.  Biden will be one of the last major progressive leaders of the world.  When Trudea and Macron are voted out, then we will know the transition has been completed.  Yes the porgressives will win elections here and there, but there will be a balance restored between the two main political views in society - it was a huge mistake to allow the progressives to gain so much power and control for such a long period of time.

 

The Biden State Dept has said many negative things about Orban (Hungary PM) - things that should not be said by an organisations that is supposed to be apolitical and that respects the voting decisions of other countries.  The recent isnults are on the record - but I have edited their latest.  The Biden State Department has accused Orban of - "rolling back the very damaging and poloraising minority rights that disadvantaged the majority;  controlling the progressive activist judiciary that makes decisions based on politics;  has curtailed the progressive biased media from publishing false media stories and allegations;  and has ensured the integrity of the country's election system".  That sounds exactly what Trump and the GOP are going to do when they are elected in 2024.  Nothing Biden can say in his address will change the fact that the progressive levers of control and influence over the majority of the people for the benefit of the minorities that vote progressive will be destroyed.   

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The world is moving towards the 'right'.  People more and more do not accept the BS of inclusiveness, diversity and social justice causes - they want law and order, national intergrity including strong borders, and conservative social values restored.  For over 3 decades the 'progressives' have been winning more than the conservatives, but as seen in the last few years with Argentina, Sweden, Finland, Greece, etc etc - the conservatives are winning more often than not.  Biden will be one of the last major progressive leaders of the world.  When Trudea and Macron are voted out, then we will know the transition has been completed.  Yes the porgressives will win elections here and there, but there will be a balance restored between the two main political views in society - it was a huge mistake to allow the progressives to gain so much power and control for such a long period of time.

 

The Biden State Dept has said many negative things about Orban (Hungary PM) - things that should not be said by an organisations that is supposed to be apolitical and that respects the voting decisions of other countries.  The recent isnults are on the record - but I have edited their latest.  The Biden State Department has accused Orban of - "rolling back the very damaging and poloraising minority rights that disadvantaged the majority;  controlling the progressive activist judiciary that makes decisions based on politics;  has curtailed the progressive biased media from publishing false media stories and allegations;  and has ensured the integrity of the country's election system".  That sounds exactly what Trump and the GOP are going to do when they are elected in 2024.  Nothing Biden can say in his address will change the fact that the progressive levers of control and influence over the majority of the people for the benefit of the minorities that vote progressive will be destroyed.   

Or so you say so.

 

I’d much rather Biden’s administration were critical of tyrants than praise them.

[Rimmer]

An off topic meme offering nothing to the topic has been removed, also a personal attack