Popular Post RobU Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 What about Diane Abbott's published racist remarks against white people? All she got was a kiss on the wrist and continuation in public office. Seems like one law for her because she is part of a 'minority' and another law for the ethnic group that she racially abuses. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemsta69 Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: He’s not and idiot, he’s a racist. What's wrong with being a racist? It's human nature, baked deep into the DNA. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, billd766 said: I agree 100%. The man, Frank Hester, is nothing more than a feejit. Just because his company has won a lot of contracts from the NHS, and he bankrolls the Tory party, does not mean to say that he is smart and intelligent. In fact this goes goes to show that just because you are rich and have a lot of money, does not mean to say that you are smart and intelligent. Quite often it means the opposite as he has proved. I did read a few years ago that intelligence is not an essential quality for top management and board members 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: What's wrong with being a racist? It's human nature, baked deep into the DNA. Erm, except it isn’t. Children raised with other race children do not express racism towards those other races. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: No, I’m not calling you a racist. But let’s not cloud the fact Frank Hester is. Frank Hester is not someone who has crossed my radar - certainly he seems a deeply unpleasant individual; perhaps indicative of the state the Tories are in. I have been thinking about the current UK political situation for some time now. I am perhaps a natural conservative, I joke that I am unsure whether I am a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative; certainly a habitual Tory voter (not that that matters, I come from and am still registered to vote in a West of England Liberal fiefdom)! The current bunch are frankly, to quote Terry Thomas, “an absolute bloody shambles” I am not a right winger, I just want some honest open fair government, driven neither by business interests nor left wing ideologies. Simple government which simply does what it says on the tin! A government which puts forward a platform, and carries it out. A government which acknowledges it needs to serve all it's people, even if they did not vote for it. A political system which would have room for both Margaret Thatcher and Anthony Wedgewood Benn. For the first time in 48 years I think I will give voting a miss. I would hazard to suggest that the Tories are in real trouble when they are losing the support of people like me, not so much the right wing elements who have somewhere to go, and come back from, but people like me who find themselves with nowhere to go. Edited March 12 by herfiehandbag 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: He said if five years ago . Also Diane Abbot had stated that Irish people were not subject to racism because they aren't Black , for she she got suspended from the Labour party for . Frank Hester is an Irish immigrant who was a victim of racism when he came to the UK as a child and that could explain his animosity towards Abbot Yes. The donor's remarks were made in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, blazes said: Diane Abbott is tainted for at least two very good reasons: 1. she is utterly thick; 2. she was once the girlfriend of Jeremy Corbyn. However: #1 is sufficient to absolve her of many sins. #2 - she was too young to know any better.... She was banging Jeremy Corbyn in his student days and Jeremy was so grateful to get his leg over that he's been giving her top jobs ever since . She didn't get the top jobs on merit , she got the jobs because she was banging Jeremy 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLa Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: She was banging Jeremy Corbyn in his student days and Jeremy was so grateful to get his leg over that he's been giving her top jobs ever since . She didn't get the top jobs on merit , she got the jobs because she was banging Jeremy Are you sure that adds up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, DaLa said: Are you sure that adds up ? I think so, yeah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 17 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Frank Hester is not someone who has crossed my radar - certainly he seems a deeply unpleasant individual; perhaps indicative of the state the Tories are in. I have been thinking about the current UK political situation for some time now. I am perhaps a natural conservative, I joke that I am unsure whether I am a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative; certainly a habitual Tory voter (not that that matters, I come from and am still registered to vote in a West of England Liberal fiefdom)! The current bunch are frankly, to quote Terry Thomas, “an absolute bloody shambles” I am not a right winger, I just want some honest open fair government, driven neither by business interests nor left wing ideologies. Simple government which simply does what it says on the tin! A government which puts forward a platform, and carries it out. A government which acknowledges it needs to serve all it's people, even if they did not vote for it. A political system which would have room for both Margaret Thatcher and Anthony Wedgewood Benn. For the first time in 48 years I think I will give voting a miss. I would hazard to suggest that the Tories are in real trouble when they are losing the support of people like me, not so much the right wing elements who have somewhere to go, and come back from, but people like me who find themselves with nowhere to go. It’s a sentiment I’ve heard from a number of Tory voters. The Tories have abandoned the political center right in favor of the hard right and their own personal ambitions. A friend went further, adding he will not vote Tory for the first time because they’ve lost all sense of decency. They need a spell in opposition, two or three spells would be even better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Let’s put the Tories to the test: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/12/labour-calls-on-sunak-to-return-frank-hester-tory-donation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Perhaps we should revisit the outrage over ‘mob rule’ and ‘threats of violence to MPs’ to see how the then outraged feel about Hester’s call for Diane Abbott ‘to be shot’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dolf Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Let’s put the Tories to the test: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/12/labour-calls-on-sunak-to-return-frank-hester-tory-donation They should keep the money. Biden takes in millions from corrupt people. Only weak people play the race card. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 Just now, Dolf said: They should keep the money. Biden takes in millions from corrupt people. Only weak people play the race card. This is in the UK, Biden is in the USA Two different Countries 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: This is in the UK, Biden is in the USA Two different Countries Thanks for telling me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Labour must loving this. Reform carving off a wad of Tory voters has got to be good new for Labour. 30p Anderson a good MP - opinions differ. Lee Anderthal is clearly a man of great principle as he was a supporter of the idea that any MP who changed parties mid-stream should always call a by-election. Except when it comes to him..... Just another useless shouty gammon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: He said if five years ago . Also Diane Abbot had stated that Irish people were not subject to racism because they aren't Black , for she she got suspended from the Labour party for . Frank Hester is an Irish immigrant who was a victim of racism when he came to the UK as a child and that could explain his animosity towards Abbot What race does Hester belong to such that he was subject to racism? Irish is not a race....it is a Nationality. The Irish are an Ethno-national group. Edited March 12 by Enoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Enoon said: What race does Hester belong to such that he was subject to racism? Irish is not a race....it is a Nationality. Really, I never knew that , thanks for letting me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: He’s not and idiot, he’s a racist. Unless of course you think the stupidity is not keeping his racism quiet. He is black too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevbo Posted March 12 Popular Post Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Erm, except it isn’t. Children raised with other race children do not express racism towards those other races. They do 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Kevbo said: He is black too Edit, he is irish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, mrfill said: Lee Anderthal is clearly a man of great principle as he was a supporter of the idea that any MP who changed parties mid-stream should always call a by-election. Except when it comes to him..... Just another useless shouty gammon.... Maybe he will, a bit early to say as he only just swapped yesterday, but not a lot of point as an election in a few months is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, mrfill said: Lee Anderthal is clearly a man of great principle as he was a supporter of the idea that any MP who changed parties mid-stream should always call a by-election. Except when it comes to him..... Just another useless shouty gammon.... Lee Anderson did indeed support that idea. But you said it yourself - 'mid-stream'. We're not in the middle of a parliament. He's switched parties just before a General Election, so there's no need for a by-election. It would waste millions in tax payer's money holding a by-election which would be immediately made null and void by a GE. It would be insane to hold a by-election now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, Enoon said: What race does Hester belong to such that he was subject to racism? Irish is not a race....it is a Nationality. The Irish are an Ethno-national group. Seriously though, racism means discriminating against someone based on their Race , Religion .....................read it here rac·ism prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. https://www.google.com/search?q=racism&oq=racism&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDggAEEUYJxg5GIAEGIoFMgYIARAAGDgyDAgCEAAYQxiABBiKBTIMCAMQABhDGIAEGIoFMgwIBBAAGEMYgAQYigUyBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgGEAAYgAQyCggHEAAYxwMYgAQyCggIEAAYxwMYgAQyCggJEAAYxwMYgATSAQk5OTQxajBqMTWoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Well, that was a certainly a blah, blah, blah article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Frank Hester was an idiot for saying that. He said it about 5 years ago which is around the time that Abbot was making some more of her own racist remarks about white people. So I imagine Hester was trying to say that she talks in a very divisive way, i.e. turns white people against black people. Which she does. But for a prominent business man and high profile Tory donor to be so clumsy with his words, he deserves all he gets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 The thought of Abbot and Corbyn going at it like a couple of dogs on heat is too much for my imagination to contemplate...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Hearing her talk is bad enough. What an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Seriously though, racism means discriminating against someone based on their Race , Religion .....................read it here rac·ism prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. https://www.google.com/search?q=racism&oq=racism&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDggAEEUYJxg5GIAEGIoFMgYIARAAGDgyDAgCEAAYQxiABBiKBTIMCAMQABhDGIAEGIoFMgwIBBAAGEMYgAQYigUyBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgGEAAYgAQyCggHEAAYxwMYgAQyCggIEAAYxwMYgAQyCggJEAAYxwMYgATSAQk5OTQxajBqMTWoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 It might be an idea for you to check what UK Law have to say on the subject. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, kidneyw said: Hearing her talk is bad enough. What an idiot. Absolutely, she could put a glass eye to sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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