Dolf Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 This man is an inspiration. 48 years jail for a crime he didn't commit - 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bob smith Posted March 17 Popular Post Share Posted March 17 (edited) he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated. the American justice system is a shambles. bob. Edited March 17 by bob smith 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dolf Posted March 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, bob smith said: he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated. the American justice system is a shambles. bob. 5m per year is 240m. Then any living cops who framed him jailed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexpotter Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 A report released by the Corrections Accountability Project this week exposes over 3,100 corporations—including over 2,500 privately traded companies—that profit from the United States prison system. The 113-page report provides troves of data outlining the thousands of companies that contribute, intentionally or unintentionally, to the Prison Industrial Complex, according to Bianca Tylek, director of the Corrections Accountability Project. "We were trying to uncover how intentional these companies are about hiding engagement in the Prison Industrial Complex," Tylek says. Tylek points out that, besides CoreCivic and GEO Group, the two largest privately owned prison companies in America, there are many small companies that contribute to the $80 billion spent annually on U.S. prisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 17 Popular Post Share Posted March 17 This is why I will never agree to the death penalty. Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have. However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted March 17 Popular Post Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: This is why I will never agree to the death penalty. Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have. However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty people that are not going to repeat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted March 17 Popular Post Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, bob smith said: he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated. the American justice system is a shambles. That post made sense...stop it, it's not like you at all! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: This is why I will never agree to the death penalty. Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have. However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). I am totally for the death penalty. First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed. Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 44 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty people that are not going to repeat OK, I see about "thugs" now. It's a dog whistle isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty people that are not going to repeat As a law abiding person, I trust the judges to make sure that conviction is sound more than I trust the police to make sure that they get find the right man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Try reading "An Innocent Man" by John Grisham. It's the true story of Ron Williamson, who was jailed for 11 years until DNA evidence exonerated him. He died a broken man. The prosecutors and police who railroaded him with false evidence kept their jobs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: Try reading "An Innocent Man" by John Grisham. It's the true story of Ron Williamson, who was jailed for 11 years until DNA evidence exonerated him. He died a broken man. The prosecutors and police who railroaded him with false evidence kept their jobs. The guy in the video looked remarkable for a guy who spent 48 years in jail for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 19 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty people that are not going to repeat One wrong death by the State is not 'balanced' by 999 correct ones. That one person could be you or your son or your brother etc etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said: One wrong death by the State is not 'balanced' by 999 correct ones. That one person could be you or your son or your brother etc etc etc. on the other hand those 999 wont cause many more unwanted deaths which may save many other people from that horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: I am totally for the death penalty. First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed. Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did. Then you will gladly be put to sleep - no problem. However - and maybe you dont know this (yet) - the real world is very different to what you think. When faced with that choice it is amazing how lifelong views suddenly change. And in fact it is often the one who for decades said 'put me down' (acting tough etc) who screams and fights to stay another day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: on the other hand those 999 wont cause many more unwanted deaths which may save many other people from that horror You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said: You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it. Its not the balance its what you think is acceptable to what I see is acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Its not the balance its what you think is acceptable to what I see is acceptable You might think that is the case - but I guarantee you that it will not be so when it is you. Or are you saying that you will say :- OK - no problems - just my bad luck - I am that 1 in a 1000 - fair enough - I accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 21 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: I am totally for the death penalty. First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed. Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did. How would you feel being escorted to the execution chamber knowing you were innocent ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: How would you feel being escorted to the execution chamber knowing you were innocent ? At my age now and with a fairly large number of medical conditions (and growing) - probably relieved. But I will not know unless it happens. Local hospital will miss the revenue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) deleted Edited March 18 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it. what if those 999 are incorrectly set free and just 1% of them murder while they are out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrwest Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/17/2024 at 11:57 AM, Dolf said: 5m per year is 240m. Then any living cops who framed him jailed. Support compensation but I am thinking first from those who were art fault for the wrongful incarceration. Let's go a little more reasonable on calling for my tax money at 240 million. Yes, one could observe, as a citizen of the USA, I technically allowed this (same thinking as holding German citizens responsible for the Death Camps or Israeli citizens responsible for current situation in Gaza (or Gaza citizens for the actions of Hamas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Wrwest said: Support compensation but I am thinking first from those who were art fault for the wrongful incarceration. Let's go a little more reasonable on calling for my tax money at 240 million. Yes, one could observe, as a citizen of the USA, I technically allowed this (same thinking as holding German citizens responsible for the Death Camps or Israeli citizens responsible for current situation in Gaza (or Gaza citizens for the actions of Hamas). The cops who framed him are probably dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john donson Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/17/2024 at 11:54 AM, bob smith said: he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated. the American justice system is a shambles. bob. why should tax payers cough up that for him ? he can go fund himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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