Trump unable to get $464m bond in New York fraud case, his lawyers say

[bamnutsak]

New York attorney general disputes Trump's claim that he can't secure $464 million to post bond

 

 

A lawyer for New York Attorney General Letitia James on Wednesday disputed former President Donald Trump's claim that he can't secure more than $460 million needed to post bond and appeal the civil fraud ruling against him, writing in a filing that the court should deny Trump's "extraordinary request" to appeal without posting the full amount.

 

In his response on Wednesday, Dennis Fan, a senior assistant solicitor general for the state, called Trump's filing "procedurally improper" and said the court should disregard it. He wrote that Trump's issues should have been raised in an earlier filing, and could have been, since "their efforts to obtain that bond began before their stay motion was filed and indeed before judgment was even entered."

 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fraud-judgment-bond-new-york-attorney-general/

 

 

[PROPOSED] AFFIRMATION IN SURREPLY TO  MOTION FOR A STAY PENDING APPEAL 

 

https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/2024_01134_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_v_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_EXHIBIT_S__14.pdf

 

Edited March 21 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[bamnutsak]

Could Trump be forced into bankruptcy? Hear why former investment banker thinks so

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/03/20/trump-bond-bankruptcy-william-cohan-sot-ip-vpx.cnn?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

 

 

 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Opinion  Fair’s fair: Trump should be able to appeal the judgment against him

By Ruth Marcus
Washington Post Associate editor

March 19, 2024 at 4:07 p.m. EDT

 

On the topic of Donald Trump’s asserted inability to scrounge the money to post bond and appeal the mega-judgment in his New York civil fraud case, by all means: Let’s enjoy a good chortle at seeing Trump hoisted on the petard of his own braggadocio about his supposedly vast wealth.

 

Then let’s pause and consider: Is it fair to require Trump to post a bond of this magnitude to be able to appeal the judgment against him — $464 million, including interest?

 

Look, no one more deserves to be mistreated, and no one more deserves a system rigged against him, than Trump.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/19/trump-appeal-fraud-judgment-464-million-bond/

 

https://archive.is/SqISL

Her words are contradictory.

She says he should be able to appeal, but goes on to say

"Look, no one more deserves to be mistreated, and no one more deserves a system rigged against him, than Trump."

which is saying that he deserves to be mistreated and deserves a rigged system.

 

Whatever, it's a misuse of the "justice system" for political ends and IMO everyone knows it. Perhaps it will come back to bite them, or at least I hope it does.

[bamnutsak]

Of course trump is partners with a Las Vegas casino owner. Why am I not shocked?

 

Maybe Phil Ruffin will offer to "help out" with this bond?

 

Trump tax records expose more than $21 million in highly unusual payments from the Las Vegas hotel he owns, an engineered windfall in 2016 as campaign funds dwindled

 

Donald J. Trump needed money.

 

His “self-funded” presidential campaign was short on funds, and he was struggling to win over leery Republican donors. His golf courses and the hotel he would soon open in the Old Post Office in Washington were eating away at what cash he had left on hand, his tax records show.

 

And the president’s long-hidden tax records, obtained by The New York Times, also reveal this: how he engineered a sudden financial windfall — more than $21 million in what experts describe as highly unusual one-off payments from the Las Vegas hotel he owns with his friend Phil Ruffin, the casino mogul.

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2020/10/09/trump-tax-records-expose-more-than-21-million-in-highly-unusual-payments-from-the-las-vegas-hotel-he-owns-an-engineered-windfall-in-2016-as-campaign-funds-dwindled/

 

[G_Money]

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6349340403112
 

Notice how the truth and intelligent remarks are coming out of the mouths of Republicans.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, G_Money said:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6349340403112
 

Notice how the truth and intelligent remarks are coming out of the mouths of Republicans.

Actually, no, I didn’t notice that at all.

[billd766]

On 3/20/2024 at 12:08 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not sure if you are referencing the members of the electoral college, or those that elect them.

 

The electoral college is here to stay as it's enshrined inn the constitution and IMO not even one small state will ever vote to replace it with a majority vote.

I was referring to the members of the electoral college.

 

However, IMHO nothing is enshrined for ever, or there would be no amendments to the constitution, and there are many.

[metisdead]

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[billd766]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I am still not counting Trump out - there is still a chance for a last second loan from somewhere.

The only problem with a second loan. (if he can get one), is that it is likely to be expensive and will still have to be repaid. If anything he will be worse off than he is now.

[G_Money]

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Actually, no, I didn’t notice that at all.

The vast majority of brain dead liberals wouldn’t notice it either.

 

You’re not the only one.

Edited March 21 by G_Money

[jerrymahoney]

20 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I was referring to the members of the electoral college.

 

However, IMHO nothing is enshrined for ever, or there would be no amendments to the constitution, and there are many.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_abolition_amendment

 

Bills have been introduced in the US Congress on several occasions to amend the US Constitution to abolish or to reduce the power of the Electoral College and to provide for the direct popular election of the US president and vice president. <SKIP>

 

On October 8, 1969, the New York Times reported that 30 state legislatures were "either certain or likely to approve a constitutional amendment embodying the direct election plan if it passes its final Congressional test in the Senate." Ratification of 38 state legislatures would have been needed for adoption. The paper also reported that six other states had yet to state a preference, six were leaning toward opposition, and eight were solidly opposed

 

 

 

 

[xylophone]

47 minutes ago, G_Money said:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6349340403112
 

Notice how the truth and intelligent remarks are coming out of the mouths of Republicans.

An oxymoron twice over in that post.......'the truth" and Fox News, for a start, then "intelligent remarks" and Republicans.

 

Have you been mixing alcohol with your Kool Aid??? 

[xylophone]

On 3/20/2024 at 5:21 AM, jerrymahoney said:

Forbes has estimated his wealth for decades and estimates it at $2.6 billion as of 2024, with Trump making much higher claims. Trump received gifts, loans, and inheritance from his father. His primary business has been real estate ventures, including hotels, casinos, and golf courses.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump

And yet he still can't find the money to post his bond, and besides this, if he was as wealthy as he says, then why can't he borrow from elsewhere??

 

I will answer my own question – – he is a liar and a thief and is untrustworthy as well as having a record of cheating people out of their investments and money.

 

Not a good risk I would hasten to add!

[G_Money]

On 3/19/2024 at 12:22 PM, Eric Loh said:

How about billionaires should not be above the law and not run their office like his corporation. 

Referring to the “Big Guy” Biden with his behind the scenes dealings with China and Russia?

 

Why do think they support that fool for President?  Easily manipulated and bribed.

[G_Money]

14 minutes ago, xylophone said:

An oxymoron twice over in that post.......'the truth" and Fox News, for a start, then "intelligent remarks" and Republicans.

 

Have you been mixing alcohol with your Kool Aid??? 

I see you have also adopted the appropriate nickname for your fellow libertard, ozimoron!

 

Agree with you, for once.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Referring to the “Big Guy” Biden with his behind the scenes dealings with China and Russia?

 

Why do think they support that fool for President?  Easily manipulated and bribed.

As usual, you have nothing!

FD 1023 anyone? 😀

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

Referring to the “Big Guy” Biden with his behind the scenes dealings with China and Russia?

 

Why do think they support that fool for President?  Easily manipulated and bribed.

It's clear that you haven't been keeping up with current events, but pretty much every allegation against Biden have been debunked.  Zero evidence regarding China/Russia....and whatever.  That's why the House GOP's impeachment efforts have been dead-in-the-water.  Try something more original.

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's clear that you haven't been keeping up with current events, but pretty much every allegation against Biden have been debunked.  Zero evidence regarding China/Russia....and whatever.  That's why the House GOP's impeachment efforts have been dead-in-the-water.  Try something more original.

And you believe liberal media.

[candide]

3 minutes ago, G_Money said:

And you believe liberal media.

Lame deflection, you have nothing!

FD 1023 anyone? 😀

[G_Money]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual, you have nothing!

FD 1023 anyone? 😀

 

19 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's clear that you haven't been keeping up with current events, but pretty much every allegation against Biden have been debunked.  Zero evidence regarding China/Russia....and whatever.  That's why the House GOP's impeachment efforts have been dead-in-the-water.  Try something more original.

Trump compromised his personal wealth to save this country and Biden compromised his country to enrich his and his son Hunters personal wealth.  
 

All on a civil service salary?  Not a chance.

 

His Delaware home hasn’t appreciated that much.

 

 

 

 

[G_Money]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

Lame deflection, you have nothing!

FD 1023 anyone? 😀

DOJ selective prosecution has worked well under the Biden administration.

 

Payback is going to be a bit—.  And they know it.  

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

The vast majority of brain dead liberals wouldn’t notice it either.

 

You’re not the only one.

Ah, back to ad hominem.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 

Trump compromised his personal wealth to save this country and Biden compromised his country to enrich his and his son Hunters personal wealth.  
 

All on a civil service salary?  Not a chance.

 

His Delaware home hasn’t appreciated that much.

 

 

 

 

B.S. You have nothing! 😀

[G_Money]

Just now, candide said:

B.S. You have nothing! 😀

I obviously have something.  I keep getting your undivided attention. 😄

[candide]

Just now, G_Money said:

DOJ selective prosecution has worked well under the Biden administration.

 

Payback is going to be a bit—.  And they know it.  

Another conspiracy theory, as usual. That's the typical MAGA m.o. when they have nothing: conspiracy theories and false équivalences! 😀

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

I was referring to the members of the electoral college.

 

However, IMHO nothing is enshrined for ever, or there would be no amendments to the constitution, and there are many.

Any change to the constitution has to be approved by a majority of states. No conservative state is going to agree to give up their status afforded by the E C. That would subject them to domination by the coasts forever.

Edited March 21 by thaibeachlovers

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Another conspiracy theory, as usual. That's the typical MAGA m.o. when they have nothing: conspiracy theories and false équivalences! 😀

You have nothing 😁

[candide]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Any change to the constitution has to be approved by a majority of states. No small state is going to agree to give up their status afforded by the E C. That would subject them to domination by the coasts forever.

Most of all, Republicans will never vote for it. They surely want to keep their capability to have a GOP president elected with a minority of citizen votes.

[jerrymahoney]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Any change to the constitution has to be approved by a majority of states. No small state is going to agree to give up their status afforded by the E C. That would subject them to domination by the coasts forever.

As noted at length in the Wikipedia link above, it's not like it hasn't been tried multiple times before. But maybe the gent in the link to which you replied suggests that maybe no one before has ever thought of it.

 

(Again) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_abolition_amendment

[candide]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

You have nothing 😁

Why would I need to show anything? It's the accuser who needs to provide evidence! 😀