Picture of Israeli soldier holding Thai flag causes a stir

Nick Carter icp · April 22

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Earlier links have been deleted, and now all Blinken threatening with, is vague statements based on the same reports and incidents.

The information is there, if you want to search and find.

Short announcement from

"U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Friday said he has made "determinations" regarding accusations that Israel violated a set of U.S. laws that prohibit providing military assistance to individuals or security force units that commit gross violations of human rights.

The Leahy Laws, authored by then-Senator Patrick Leahy in the late 1990s, prohibit providing military assistance to individuals or security force units that commit gross violations of human rights and have not been brought to justice.

Blinken said an announcement could be made "very soon"."

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-israeli-netzah-yehuda-battalion-accused-2024-04-22/

Things get deleted for a reason usually because the links aren't true or misleading .

As I previously stated , the above link is just an accusation .

If the info is out there , then why cant you tell me what that info is ?

So you cannot provide any links showing Israel has committed war crimes and you cannot provide any links showing that the IDF killed Israelis in Israel to stop them being taken hostage .

You don't have any evidence at all

Edited April 22 by Nick Carter icp

Hummin · April 22

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Things get deleted for a reason usually because the links aren't true or misleading .

As I previously stated , the above link is just an accusation .

If the info is out there , then why cant you tell me what that info is ?

So you cannot provide any links showing Israel has committed war crimes and you cannot provide any links showing that the IDF killed Israelis in Israel to stop them being taken hostage .

You don't have any evidence at all

You choose to turn the blind eye, and repetitively my legit links have been turned down. Dont you think every war and conflicts have war crimes and crimes against humanity? Why do you believe Israelis is an exemption?

Well, try again

In the 21st century, there has been a steady increase in violence and terror perpetrated by Israeli settlers against Palestinians.^[11] In 2012, an EU heads of mission report found that settler violence had more than tripled in the three years up to 2011.^[12] United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) figures state that the annual rate of settler attacks (2,100 attacks in 8 years) has almost quadrupled between 2006 and 2014.^[13] In 2021, there was yet another wave of settler violence which erupted after a 16-year-old settler died in a car chase with Israeli police after having hurled rocks at Palestinians. So far it has resulted in 44 incidents in the span of a few weeks, injuring two Palestinian children.^[14] In the latter parts of 2021, there has been a marked increase in settler violence toward Palestinians, condemned at the United Nations Security Council.

there is more sources to be found if you where going to disprove me, but you continue the same mantra over and over.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence

Nick Carter icp · April 22

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

You choose to turn the blind eye, and repetitively my legit links have been turned down. Dont you think every war and conflicts have war crimes and crimes against humanity? Why do you believe Israelis is an exemption?

Well, try again

In the 21st century, there has been a steady increase in violence and terror perpetrated by Israeli settlers against Palestinians.^[11] In 2012, an EU heads of mission report found that settler violence had more than tripled in the three years up to 2011.^[12] United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) figures state that the annual rate of settler attacks (2,100 attacks in 8 years) has almost quadrupled between 2006 and 2014.^[13] In 2021, there was yet another wave of settler violence which erupted after a 16-year-old settler died in a car chase with Israeli police after having hurled rocks at Palestinians. So far it has resulted in 44 incidents in the span of a few weeks, injuring two Palestinian children.^[14] In the latter parts of 2021, there has been a marked increase in settler violence toward Palestinians, condemned at the United Nations Security Council.

there is more sources to be found if you where going to disprove me, but you continue the same mantra over and over.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settler_violence

That is in the West Bank and there's not a war there , therefore nothing there can be a war crime .

But even saying that , violence isn't a war crime anyway .

Settler violence isn't a war crime because the actual act of violence isn't a war crime and there's no war in the West bank .

If you still claim to have links to war crimes that are being turned down then post those links in the Israel at war thread , they would be on topic in that thread .

BTW, do you know what a war crime is ?

Do you think that a war crime is a crime committed during a war ?

If you think that , then it isn't

Hummin · April 22

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That is in the West Bank and there's not a war there , therefore nothing there can be a war crime .

But even saying that , violence isn't a war crime anyway .

Settler violence isn't a war crime because the actual act of violence isn't a war crime and there's no war in the West bank .

If you still claim to have links to war crimes that are being turned down then post those links in the Israel at war thread , they would be on topic in that thread .

BTW, do you know what a war crime is ?

Do you think that a war crime is a crime committed during a war ?

If you think that , then it isn't

Israeli war crimes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

Nick Carter icp · April 22

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Israeli war crimes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

That has been posted numerous times before and its just accusations rather than actual war crimes

Hummin · April 22

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That has been posted numerous times before and its just accusations rather than actual war crimes

You are allowed to believe what you want, and see what you want

Nick Carter icp · April 22

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You are allowed to believe what you want, and see what you want

Do you believe this bit from the link that you posted ?

*state of Israel, has been accused of committing since *

Can you see the word *accused* in that sentence ?

That denotes that they are just accusations and itcontains the ICJ Court case amongst the accusations , the Court didn't find Israel guilty of those accusations

placnx · April 23

23 hours ago, Hummin said:

You will not manage to go through their fixed idea IDF and the ultra-orthodox Netzah Yehuda Battalion have committed crimes for years, but they deny it because lack of trustworthy credible sources. Human right organizations, Un, Unicef is all biased, and today we see many credible newspapers refer to Usa sanctions based on the very same accusations.

There is no way any sane government want to continue support such a terror regime like Israel, without being viewed in the same category as Iran and alike

Good luck

Yes, the crimes for which the US is sanctioning them were committed in 2022 or before.

When crimes are caught on video, so that the IDF cannot ignore them, they say that they will investigate, but there is no news of any investigation afterwards. Even the 2022 notorious murder of Shireen Abu Akleh, a Palestinian-American journalist, which was first obfuscated by the IDF but was soon called out by various news media and looked into by the FBI, the sniper group identified was not held to account, even by the timid Biden administration.

The current prospect of having even more ultra-Orthodox soldiers being forced to serve in the IDF does not bode well for Palestinian lives.

This can only change if the Zionist bubble is popped and Israelis are forced to confront the horror of their national crimes, starting even before the creation of the Zionist state. It might be a bit like the scene in Clockwork Orange, perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)#/media/File:LudovicoMalcolmMcDowellAClockworkOrangetrailer.png

In this scene the character was forced to watch a film with Beethoven's Ninth Symphony as the sound in a type of aversion therapy (satire).

Edited April 23 by placnx

metisdead · April 25

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Sigmund · April 25

How can one trust anything or anybody with the horrors going on openly in Gaza with support from America ?

placnx · April 26

On 4/22/2024 at 10:10 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

That is in the West Bank and there's not a war there , therefore nothing there can be a war crime .

But even saying that , violence isn't a war crime anyway .

Settler violence isn't a war crime because the actual act of violence isn't a war crime and there's no war in the West bank .

If you still claim to have links to war crimes that are being turned down then post those links in the Israel at war thread , they would be on topic in that thread .

BTW, do you know what a war crime is ?

Do you think that a war crime is a crime committed during a war ?

If you think that , then it isn't

The settlements, their establishment, their existence, is a war crime:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/03/09/expanding-israeli-settlements-a-war-crime-according-to-the-un_6600051_4.html#

https://www.amnestyusa.org/updates/lets-be-clear-israels-long-running-settlement-policy-constitutes-a-war-crime/

placnx · April 26

On 4/22/2024 at 10:10 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

That is in the West Bank and there's not a war there , therefore nothing there can be a war crime .

But even saying that , violence isn't a war crime anyway .

Settler violence isn't a war crime because the actual act of violence isn't a war crime and there's no war in the West bank .

If you still claim to have links to war crimes that are being turned down then post those links in the Israel at war thread , they would be on topic in that thread .

BTW, do you know what a war crime is ?

Do you think that a war crime is a crime committed during a war ?

If you think that , then it isn't

You are just ignorant of the law. The occupation of the West Bank is an ongoing war crime, particularly the settlements and the actions of the rapacious settlers.

Nick Carter icp · April 26

43 minutes ago, placnx said:

You are just ignorant of the law. The occupation of the West Bank is an ongoing war crime, particularly the settlements and the actions of the rapacious settlers.

That is disputed and also a complex issue as Jordon were the previous rulers of the West Bank and Palestinians never were the rulers of the land , so Israel disputes the allegations and it is also way off topic .

The on going war crimes are Hamas holding hostages , that is an undisputed war crime

SomNaNa555 · April 27

On 4/6/2024 at 7:35 AM, Bkk Brian said:

I have, feel free to do the same

UN finds evidence of rape on Oct. 7 and after; Israel: They tried to downplay issue

https://aseannow.com/topic/1321564-un-finds-evidence-of-rape-on-oct-7-and-after-israel-they-tried-to-downplay-issue/

UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said of Israeli actions:

There is no reason to intentionally block the passage of humanitarian aid or intentionally obliterate small-scale fishing vessels, greenhouses and orchards in Gaza—other than to deny people access to food....

Intentionally depriving people of food is clearly a war crime. Israel has announced its intention to destroy the Palestinian people, in whole or in part, simply for being Palestinian. In my view as a UN human rights expert, this is now a situation of genocide. This means the state of Israel in its entirety is culpable and should be held accountable—not just individuals or this government or that person.

In March, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese released a report concluding “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met.” During its campaign in Gaza, Israel’s “military has been heavily reliant on imported aircraft, guided bombs and missiles,” and 69% of Israel’s arms imports between 2019 and 2023 have come from the US (BBC, 4/5/24).

Piece of Sh*t Israel will forever be know as a genocidal, mass murdering, apartheid State. It's days are numbered and it's self inflicted.

SomNaNa555 · April 27

UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said of Israeli actions:

There is no reason to intentionally block the passage of humanitarian aid or intentionally obliterate small-scale fishing vessels, greenhouses and orchards in Gaza—other than to deny people access to food....

Intentionally depriving people of food is clearly a war crime. Israel has announced its intention to destroy the Palestinian people, in whole or in part, simply for being Palestinian. In my view as a UN human rights expert, this is now a situation of genocide. This means the state of Israel in its entirety is culpable and should be held accountable—not just individuals or this government or that person.

In March, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese released a report concluding “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met.” During its campaign in Gaza, Israel’s “military has been heavily reliant on imported aircraft, guided bombs and missiles,” and 69% of Israel’s arms imports between 2019 and 2023 have come from the US (BBC, 4/5/24).

SomNaNa555 · April 27

On 4/25/2024 at 5:29 AM, Sigmund said:

How can one trust anything or anybody with the horrors going on openly in Gaza with support from America ?

UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said of Israeli actions:

There is no reason to intentionally block the passage of humanitarian aid or intentionally obliterate small-scale fishing vessels, greenhouses and orchards in Gaza—other than to deny people access to food....

Intentionally depriving people of food is clearly a war crime. Israel has announced its intention to destroy the Palestinian people, in whole or in part, simply for being Palestinian. In my view as a UN human rights expert, this is now a situation of genocide. This means the state of Israel in its entirety is culpable and should be held accountable—not just individuals or this government or that person.

In March, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese released a report concluding “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met.” During its campaign in Gaza, Israel’s “military has been heavily reliant on imported aircraft, guided bombs and missiles,” and 69% of Israel’s arms imports between 2019 and 2023 have come from the US (BBC, 4/5/24).

Bkk Brian · April 27

29 minutes ago, SomNaNa555 said:

UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said of Israeli actions:

There is no reason to intentionally block the passage of humanitarian aid or intentionally obliterate small-scale fishing vessels, greenhouses and orchards in Gaza—other than to deny people access to food....

Intentionally depriving people of food is clearly a war crime. Israel has announced its intention to destroy the Palestinian people, in whole or in part, simply for being Palestinian. In my view as a UN human rights expert, this is now a situation of genocide. This means the state of Israel in its entirety is culpable and should be held accountable—not just individuals or this government or that person.

In March, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories Francesca Albanese released a report concluding “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met.” During its campaign in Gaza, Israel’s “military has been heavily reliant on imported aircraft, guided bombs and missiles,” and 69% of Israel’s arms imports between 2019 and 2023 have come from the US (BBC, 4/5/24).

Piece of Sh*t Israel will forever be know as a genocidal, mass murdering, apartheid State. It's days are numbered and it's self inflicted.

Piece of Sh*t Israel will forever be know as a genocidal, mass murdering, apartheid State. It's days are numbered and it's self inflicted.

Did you wake up hungry this morning....lol

Skipalongcassidy · April 27

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Piece of Sh*t Israel will forever be know as a genocidal, mass murdering, apartheid State. It's days are numbered and it's self inflicted.

Did you wake up hungry this morning....lol

Yes... it is time to wipe out the mostly peace loving jews and other peaceful people and give rise to the loving, peaceful muslims... oh wait.

SomNaNa555 · May 12

On 4/26/2024 at 5:49 PM, Skipalongcassidy said:

Yes... it is time to wipe out the mostly peace loving jews and other peaceful people and give rise to the loving, peaceful muslims... oh wait.

That's just too ignorant to respond to. And who do you think created the Islamist Jihadist radicals?

metisdead · May 13

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SomNaNa555 · May 16

On 4/26/2024 at 5:49 PM, Skipalongcassidy said:

Yes... it is time to wipe out the mostly peace loving jews and other peaceful people and give rise to the loving, peaceful muslims... oh wait.

Skipalongcassidy · May 16

18 minutes ago, SomNaNa555 said:

Not once did this twit reference the atrocities committed by hamas terrorists when they started this war... she is attempting to rewrite history.

Robert Paulson · May 16

On 3/30/2024 at 8:30 AM, Hummin said:

The biggest lie, is continuing claiming 7. October as a start of this conflict! It was just the results of decades of suppressing people with violence, bombing, unjustified revenge, taking away peoples rights as individuals, being punished for neighbour's actions, braking international laws, and all this while the international community with power watching and do nothing.

Tired of listening to excuses and defending war crimes.

And yes, this conflict is much closer to all of us than any other conflict in the region, because this is not an civil war, this is an superpower against a poor defenseless part, where the children and women suffers more than any others. And we support them with weapons, and also made them a nuclear war nation with help from UK and Norway!

They have no territory to hide or defend themselves from!

Just tired of reading BS from the same Israel apologist over and over, with no what so ever empathy, and say it could had been different, if ,,,,,,, they didnt attack 7. october, but no, 7. october didnt change anything, it just escalated the process!

Well unfortunate Hamas have succeeded, they have the world attention now, even it was a suicide! A suicide hard to understand,

We all understand the complexity of this conflict, we understand the jews fighting for their existence, and we understand those behind 7. October must pay for what they did, and we also understand, Hamas have to lay down their weapons, and surrender! But thats not happening, instead Israel choose to kill civilians!

Our voice will hopefully be heard, and the international community will listen, and makes things happen!

But, as long Usa use their veto right, then, nothing is going to happen!

It looks like people need another refresher and to read this post again.

SomNaNa555 · May 21

On 5/16/2024 at 4:37 PM, Skipalongcassidy said:

Not once did this twit reference the atrocities committed by hamas terrorists when they started this war... she is attempting to rewrite history.

That's because it started with Israeli terrorists ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their land in 1948 and has been ongoing ever since.

SomNaNa555 · May 21

Skipalongcassidy · May 21

16 hours ago, SomNaNa555 said:

That's because it started with Israeli terrorists ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their land in 1948 and has been ongoing ever since.

Your a historical idiot... go pedal that drivel somewhere else...

SomNaNa555 · May 26

The world's foremost Jewish expert on Gaza.

SomNaNa555 · May 27

On 4/6/2024 at 10:31 PM, jayboy said:

I have seen those threads and apart from various "wouldn't it be nice" platitudes, I have seen nothing from the critics of Israel addressing the question - what should have been the response to the Hamas atrocities on October 7th?

I don't think we will ever see it - and I think I know the reasons why.

Learn about the history rather than simply believing the myths.

SomNaNa555 · May 27

jayboy · May 27

3 hours ago, SomNaNa555 said:

Learn about the history rather than simply believing the myths.

I have studied the history intensely though I have no connection with Israel, am not Jewish and unfortunately have (as far as I know) no Jewish friends.

You simply show your ignorance and partisan ship.You invoke Norman Finkeklstein and John Mearsheimer, two distinguished academics but both tarred by irrational positions on Israel and Jewish people.(Yes, I know Finkelstein is himself Jewish)

For am informed position on Finkelstein, see a Guardian review from several years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/jul/14/historybooks.comment

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