Foreigners among World Central Kitchen staff killed in Israeli strike

[Jeff the Chef]

In February 2024, Proactiva Open Arms announced that their Open Arms tugboat would conduct delivery to the Gaza Strip towing a barge of food and water provided by World Central Kitchen. The ship had been reportedly stationed in Cyprus since 16 February. 

The president of Cyprus had proposed a maritime humanitarian corridor at a conference in Paris in early November, and held conversations the following month with the Egyptian president and Jordanian king. According to Cypriot authorities, there were also "technical discussions" with Israeli officials.

In an interview with Tel Aviv Radio, the Israeli foreign minister said in December that "It can start immediately".

On 11 March, the ship was in Cyprus awaiting departure, after Cypriot authorities claimed that permission had been granted. The goods had reportedly been checked by Cypriot officials with Israeli oversight. It contained "nearly 200 tons of food".

The shipment arrived on 15 March at a beach south of Gaza City. According to WCK, this was the first boat to reach Gaza in nearly 2 decades.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Central_Kitchen

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Nice deflection away from the OP, which this has nothing to do with, well done.

Fact and everything to do with the OP 

 

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Fact and everything to do with the OP 

 

Exactly.

 

People are bleating on and on about "oh how could Israel bomb the vans when they were MARKED AS AID VANS?" and making it look deliberate. Pointing out that Hamas has a well documented habit of using aid and civilian vehicles to transport weapons and terrorists is perfectly valid as a way to possible explain what happened.  The insinuation that the Israelis target innocent aid workers for no other reason than sadism is utter nonsense.

[Nick Carter icp]

20 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Yes, but why did they start it and who decided to leave the border undefended after receiving credible warnings from Egypt and their own troops at the border?

 

   The border wasn't undefended .

The border wasn't defended enough , but the border wasn't undefended 

[Nick Carter icp]

21 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

Most have already condemned the atrocities and war crimes committed by Hamas but now they have been eclipsed by the far more numerous atrocities and war crimes committed by Israel.

 

   Israel hasn't committed any war crimes though , Hamas has indeed committed war crimes and continues to commit war crimes on a daily basis 

[billd766]

On 4/3/2024 at 11:05 AM, simple1 said:

 

It has been reported the vehicle was hit by a drone as the Israelis thought their was an armed terrorist inside. The vehicle was marked both on the roof and sides identifying as belonging to WCK. WCK had notified the IDF of it's passage per usual protocol. Israelis claiming a mistake was made is a laughable understatement. One hopes the person giving the order to fire faces a jail sentence.

IMO the drone operator and ALL his superiors right up to the murderous PM Netanyahu and all his murderous war cabinet should ALL be charged with premeditated murder, which is what it was, despite all the predictable denials from the IDF and the Israeli government.

 

It is not as if the IDF had no idea of what was going on. They were informed and APPROVED every step of the way, and STILL the vehicle was deliberately targeted.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

18 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Mistake, yes.  But was it an accident?   Or a calculated strike that had an unexpected result on the world stage?

 

Regarding Netanyahu, seems a lot of Israelis agree:

 

The third day of a four-day anti-government demonstration quickly descended into chaos as protesters holding torches spread through neighborhoods in Jerusalem, heading for the prime minister’s residence.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/595319-israel-protest-netanyahu-residence/

 

If they did that in New York or London, it would be called out as anti-Semitism.  I wonder what they call it when Israelis do it?

 

 

   No they wouldn't .

In the recent march against Israel in London , it was just the people who were displaying Nazi Swastikas who were labelled as being anti Semitic , 

[Rampant Rabbit]

"The incident has raised questions about the safety of humanitarian workers in conflict zones"

 

duh its a  war zone.

[billd766]

On 4/3/2024 at 11:32 AM, Jingthing said:

Obviously a mistake but a big mistake.

There is the war war and the PR war.

Israel is losing the PR war badly.

Netanyahu should resign but of course he won't.

How was it a mistake?

 

The IDF was informed about the vehicle and they even APPROVED the trip.

 

So WHY was the IDF drone tracking that particular vehicle in the first place?

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

‘Not good enough’: Australia’s PM slams explanation for aid workers’ deaths
Australian leader says he demanded ‘full accountability’ for Australian’s killing in call with Benjamin Netanyahu.

Israel’s Haaretz newspaper reported on Tuesday that an Israeli drone had fired three missiles at the WCK convoy out of a mistaken belief that a Hamas member was travelling with them.

The report, which cited unnamed Israeli military sources, said the drone fired on three separate vehicles in succession, despite them being clearly marked with the WCK logo and even after the aid workers informed the Israeli military that they had been attacked.

WCK CEO Jose Andres said in an interview with Reuters on Wednesday that the Israeli military had targeted his employees “systematically, car by car”.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/4/not-good-enough-australias-pm-slams-explanation-for-aid-workers-deaths

 

    They were in a war zone, they went knowingly to a war zone .

They knew of the dangers of going to war zones .

They would have known that they might accidently get blown up when going into a war zone.

Rather pompous of the Australian PM phoning Netanyahu for an explanation , Aussies do think that they are important and should have special service .

   He should know that Australians aren't Gods chosen people 

( ^ Joke)

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

How was it a mistake?

 

The IDF was informed about the vehicle and they even APPROVED the trip.

 

So WHY was the IDF drone tracking that particular vehicle in the first place?

 

   Why would Israel want to bomb an aid truck ?

Why would Israel want to kill the aid workers ?

[Jingthing]

30 minutes ago, billd766 said:

How was it a mistake?

 

The IDF was informed about the vehicle and they even APPROVED the trip.

 

So WHY was the IDF drone tracking that particular vehicle in the first place?

Because Israel loves horrible public relations.

[Danny Australia]

May all these 7 remarkable heroes, who exemplified incredible humanity and selflessness, rest in peace.

Let us never forget.

May justice be served for the beautiful souls of the WCK aid workers who were brutally murdered by the Israeli army.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

May all these 7 remarkable heroes, who exemplified incredible humanity and selflessness, rest in peace.

Let us never forget.

May justice be served for the beautiful souls of the WCK aid workers who were brutally murdered by the Israeli army.

 

 

   I do think that you are over doing it on the sincerity , you had never heard of these people until they died .

   Yes, it is terrible that they died , but your grieving does seem other the top and rather fake .

Condolences and R.I.P would have been adequate 

[Wobblybob]

3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

May all these 7 remarkable heroes, who exemplified incredible humanity and selflessness, rest in peace.

Let us never forget.

May justice be served for the beautiful souls of the WCK aid workers who were brutally murdered by the Israeli army.

 

Friendly fire happens in all wars and the reason people don't go into a frenzy over it is because Israel is not involved. No Jews, no news!

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Following the criminal attack by Israel:

• WCK has suspended its operations.
• Food distributions has stopped.
• Ships from Cyprus have since been suspended.
• One ship has since turned around back to Cyprus.
• UAE stopped funding the food aid shipments.
• People of Gaza are experiencing famine.

This is why Israel bombed the convoy intentionally 3 times and murdered all 7 innocent aid Workes. Mission accomplished.

Warning: Conspiracy theorist hard at work.

[Danny Australia]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I do think that you are over doing it on the sincerity , you had never heard of these people until they died .

   Yes, it is terrible that they died , but your grieving does seem other the top and rather fake .

Condolences and R.I.P would have been adequate 

You are not in a position to question my sincerity or give lectures.

 

Some of you lot hold British nationalities but sides with Israel. Your allegiance is always against the countries that gave you shelter. 

 

However, when you get in trouble, you produce your British or US passport and ditch the Israeli passports. Typical fifth column. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

You are not in a position to question my sincerity or give lectures.

 

Some of you lot hold British nationalities but sides with Israel. Your allegiance is always against the countries that gave you shelter. 

 

However, when you get in trouble, you produce your British or US passport and ditch the Israeli passports. Typical fifth column. 

 

   Your imagination is running wild .

Did you have mushrooms from the forest for lunch ?

[Nick Carter icp]

Did the WCK staff share their food with the I.D.F ?

It would be a good idea to share the food with the I.D.F.

Imagine an Israeli soldier sitting there all night long hungry and seeing Palestinians  be given free food  .

Enough to get anyone annoyed 

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

IMO the drone operator and ALL his superiors right up to the murderous PM Netanyahu and all his murderous war cabinet should ALL be charged with premeditated murder, which is what it was, despite all the predictable denials from the IDF and the Israeli government.

 

It is not as if the IDF had no idea of what was going on. They were informed and APPROVED every step of the way, and STILL the vehicle was deliberately targeted.

 

 

While we may disagree on a different topic, on this I am agreeing with every word you wrote there.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Following the criminal attack by Israel:

• WCK has suspended its operations.
• Food distributions has stopped.
• Ships from Cyprus have since been suspended.
• One ship has since turned around back to Cyprus.
• UAE stopped funding the food aid shipments.
• People of Gaza are experiencing famine.

This is why Israel bombed the convoy intentionally 3 times and murdered all 7 innocent aid Workes. Mission accomplished.

What astounds me about this incident is that there are some on here that apparently applaud it and excuse it, or say things like they deserve it for being do gooders.

Soon as it happened I thought it was an attempt to close down international aid, and on that it has succeeded, cue mass starvation.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What astounds me about this incident is that there are some on here that apparently applaud it and excuse it, or say things like they deserve it for being do gooders.

Soon as it happened I thought it was an attempt to close down international aid, and on that it has succeeded, cue mass starvation.

Land of make believe and fictional tales of what other posters have said with the ever present crystal ball predictions.

[bannork]

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why would Israel want to bomb an aid truck ?

Why would Israel want to kill the aid workers ?

Simple, they want the Palestinians in Gaza to starve to death.

[thaibeachlovers]

Seems it has not worked to the israeli's plan. Just heard on radio news that more land crossings have opened to allow aid in. Biden called netanyahu and must have been angry enough to make netanyahu do something. Apparently threatened to cut off support, which if Biden meant it would have got a result.

 

Apparently killing foreign aid workers wasn't a good idea. They should have stuck to Palestinians as no matter how many of them died it didn't seem to have much effect. We'll have to wait to see if this has any lasting result though.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While we may disagree on a different topic, on this I am agreeing with every word you wrote there.

Thank you.

 

I know we disagree on a lot of topics, but we also agree on many other topics.

[Jingthing]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What astounds me about this incident is that there are some on here that apparently applaud it and excuse it, or say things like they deserve it for being do gooders.

Soon as it happened I thought it was an attempt to close down international aid, and on that it has succeeded, cue mass starvation.

It's like you wish that would happen so that even more people hate Israel. 

[Bkk Brian]

John Kirby, White House national-security communications adviser, emphasized in a press conference this week, the State Department has “not found any incidents where the Israelis have violated international humanitarian law.”

 

A real expert in this piece:

 

Israel Defense Forces work to protect civilians — not kill them

The investigation into the event is ongoing, but we do know Israel took immediate responsibility, initiated a national-level investigation and admitted the grave error very quickly.

This is what law-abiding, moral, ethical military forces do even when they make mistakes in the fog and friction of urban combat.

But despite this tragic event, the overwhelming narrative of Israel’s conduct in the war against Hamas in Gaza has been negative when in fact it has taken extraordinary measures to follow international humanitarian law and prevent civilian casualties and civilian harm.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/04/opinion/israel-defense-forces-work-to-protect-civilians-not-kill-them/

[Rimmer]

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[Captain Monday]

On 4/3/2024 at 7:45 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Tragic mistake. 3 British killed among the 7 in total. 

 

Kirby: No evidence Israel has broken international law
Kirby is asked if firing a missile at people delivering food and killing them is a violation of international humanitarian law.

“The Israelis have already admitted that this was a mistake that they made," Kirby says, reiterating that an investigation is being carried out into what happened. “Let’s not get ahead of that.”

He says the question presumes that the Israeli strike against aid workers was deliberate and that they knew what they were hitting, to which he adds, “there’s no evidence of that".

 

 

 

 

This convoy of vehicles was per-approved and vehicles clearly marked. Targeting  of aid workers journalists and hospitals has happened again and again and again There are two possibilities. The IDF is completely incompetent failing again and again to identify non-combatants or the Netanyahu regime Is lying. 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

This convoy of vehicles was per-approved and vehicles clearly marked. Targeting  of aid workers journalists and hospitals has happened again and again and again There are two possibilities. The IDF is completely incompetent failing again and again to identify non-combatants or the Netanyahu regime Is lying. 

Who told you they were targeting aid workers? Read the posts above on Hamas use of ambulances and similar vehicles. That is where the mistake probably occurred. Who was inside the convoy