What are the penalties if late for first 90 day report?

[giddyup]

What happens if you fail to do a 90 day report for the whole year, is it a max of 2000 baht or 2000 baht for each 90 days missed, ie 8000 baht?

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What happens if you fail to do a 90 day report for the whole year, is it a max of 2000 baht or 2000 baht for each 90 days missed, ie 8000 baht?

2000 baht fine.. (total)

[Lorry]

20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

The thing is many offices want a TM47 receipt. 

Esp at eg CW where they have a doc check girl.

In my example my last report was 10 months ago. I will show that receipt and my pp can show due to travel no reporting was due in last 10 months.

Never continuously in country 90+ days

Thx.

So  it seems my idea wasn't so good (I am at CW)

[giddyup]

37 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

2000 baht fine.. (total)

Seems like good value.

[TaoNow]

49 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Seems like good value.

While it may seem like "good value" baht wise, in my case, there was a half-page red stamp saying I violated the terms of the 90-day address report.

 

That stamp could not be cleared (obviously) until I got a new passport. 

 

If they are still doing this, there must be a reason why Immo is flagging ex-pats who violate the 90-day report requirement and pay the fine.

 

Be aware.

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, TaoNow said:

While it may seem like "good value" baht wise, in my case, there was a half-page red stamp saying I violated the terms of the 90-day address report.

 

That stamp could not be cleared (obviously) until I got a new passport. 

 

If they are still doing this, there must be a reason why Immo is flagging ex-pats who violate the 90-day report requirement and pay the fine.

 

Be aware.

What more reason do they need?

 

The red stamp thing is a concern and may look weird getting into other countries as well. Many countries have discretion at the border on how long you stay and it could look like a problem.

[zzzzz]

i missed one in Dec<  as i got a new passport in Nov and forgot, so waited till March when i transferred stamps to new passport, got new 1 year extension and paid 1,000 baht fine for missed 90 days >
all with an agent in Phuket

Phuket has always been 1,000 baht no receipt, 2,000 baht  receipt. 

NO RED stamp  🙂

[Maestro]

1 hour ago, zzzzz said:

i missed one in Dec<  as i got a new passport in Nov and forgot, so waited till March when i transferred stamps to new passport, got new 1 year extension and paid 1,000 baht fine for missed 90 days >
all with an agent in Phuket

Phuket has always been 1,000 baht no receipt, 2,000 baht  receipt. 

NO RED stamp  🙂

 

Well, the immigration office certainly won't give a red stamp in your passport for corruption money they received, because that's what your agent paid, not a fine.

 

Anyway, that was an elegant solution for you.

[zzzzz]

so pay 2,000 baht its a fine, pay 1,000 for the same offense, its corruption?
who cares where the baht ends up   🙂

[JohnOFphon]

Ok guys. My question is about the 90 day report..but different from the OPs

My 90 day is due 16th of this month. Oct.

It has to be done in person because it's the first after a trip out and back.

Now, I plan on flying out on the 30th or 31st. 15 days late.

Will I be stopped and fined at the airport???

 

If so, I will have to make the long trip to CW.. I hate that place.

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, JohnOFphon said:

Will I be stopped and fined at the airport???

No

[1happykamper]

On 4/11/2024 at 1:23 PM, bubblegum said:

Might as well skip it all together and pay 2000-- when you do your yearly extension. Its max 2000-- 

I'm resurrecting this post. Chiang Mai immigration IOs are idiots. 3x my tm47s.. Done online have been rejected... and in all cases the person rejecting has made a mistake. I'm fed up of traveling to immigration to file my tm47s... and pointing out their mistakes. 

 

I'm thinking of just not filing any more tm47s. My tm30 is current... 

 

When I renew extend my Non O.. Just simply pay a 2000 baht fine for missing three tm47 a? 

[DrJack54]

3 hours ago, 1happykamper said:

When I renew extend my Non O.. Just simply pay a 2000 baht fine for missing three tm47 a? 

You are not alone.

Especially now that they seem to be requiring TM47 in person after travel abroad. 

Seems we are back full circle to situation pre June 2020. 

Have you considered reporting via mail. 

[1happykamper]

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Have you considered reporting via mail

How would the result be any different to online? Immigration tells me to go to the office... Because I was out of thailand... But last time I returned to Thailand was June 2024 and I'm at the same address! They keep making mistakes forcing me to go to the office. 

 

What are the chances of a red stamp for not filing a tm47 for a year? 

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, 1happykamper said:

How would the result be any different to online? Immigration tells me to go to the office... Because I was out of thailand..

The rejection from online reporting has the standard statement of "report in person..." 

I believe if someone makes the report via mail there won't be a rejection. 

 

EDIT: One time I did the online 15 days prior to due date and also did a TM47 via mail.

Sure enough that time the online was approved.

Some time later I received the return mail with hand written "report already approved" 

This was prior to immigration trying to sync TM30 with online reporting.

Disaster springs to mind. 

[Dart12]

On 1/12/2025 at 9:34 AM, DrJack54 said:

The rejection from online reporting has the standard statement of "report in person..." 

I believe if someone makes the report via mail there won't be a rejection. 

 

EDIT: One time I did the online 15 days prior to due date and also did a TM47 via mail.

Sure enough that time the online was approved.

Some time later I received the return mail with hand written "report already approved" 

This was prior to immigration trying to sync TM30 with online reporting.

Disaster springs to mind. 

I am 5 weeks late.  Never been late on anything before, I thought I had until June for some reason in my head. (this would be my 2nd reporting actually).

What is best method to rectify?  

Mail or go to my agent?  or other?

I defintely to not want a "red stamp" as well in my passport.

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

What is best method to rectify?  

Mail or go to my agent?  or other?
I defintely to not want a "red stamp" as well in my passport.

You will (most likely) be fined 2000b.

You will not be fined more by leaving it till later. 

Must be done in person. 

Depends somewhat on how, difficult it is to attend immigration. 

If immigration is handy just attend and do the TM47

You will receive a small stamp in Thai as a record of fine for late report. 

[Dart12]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You will (most likely) be fined 2000b.

You will not be fined more by leaving it till later. 

Must be done in person. 

Depends somewhat on how, difficult it is to attend immigration. 

If immigration is handy just attend and do the TM47

I cannot just hand it off to agent to handle?

or is that not an option?

I know I get zero respect in Jomtien immigration even when I've done nothing wrong.  Feel like I can/will have worse result.

as for "can leave for later" eventually that would lead to me being like 200 days without report etc...doesn't that just look worse?

[DrJack54]

26 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

as for "can leave for later" eventually that would lead to me being like 200 days without report etc...doesn't that just look worse?

The fine will still be 2000b

Jomtien is not difficult to get to. 

Just go and do it. 

You could ask agent eg Maneerat Soi 13/2 to attend immigration. 

You are making simple difficult. 

[Dart12]

No it's not difficult to get to but the lines can be horrendous and so can the attitudes.

My landlord once forgot to fill out tm30 for me after I did visa run and when I went in for extension they held me hostage and treated me like I was overstaying for 2 months and refused to grant it.  Took a lot of effort and time.

I want to avoid that treatment (and the loss of an entire day at immigration) if possible. 

Ok. thank you for your help. I'll inform my agent and meet them there if that's the only way.  

I appreciate your wisdom being shared.

[BrandonJT]

5 hours ago, Dart12 said:

No it's not difficult to get to but the lines can be horrendous and so can the attitudes.

My landlord once forgot to fill out tm30 for me after I did visa run and when I went in for extension they held me hostage and treated me like I was overstaying for 2 months and refused to grant it.  Took a lot of effort and time.

I want to avoid that treatment (and the loss of an entire day at immigration) if possible. 

Ok. thank you for your help. I'll inform my agent and meet them there if that's the only way.  

I appreciate your wisdom being shared.

You are making way more out of it than necessary.  There are people that NEVER do 90-day reports and just pay 2000 baht fine every year at the time of their extension.  

[Dart12]

23 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

You are making way more out of it than necessary.  There are people that NEVER do 90-day reports and just pay 2000 baht fine every year at the time of their extension.  

Well, yeah. You never know what's going to be simple here and what's going to be a massive obstacle..

Anyways...


I went to my agent and gave him my passport.

Total cost 1000 baht and zero time at immigration.

But I do appreciate your reply and @DrJack54 help. 

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

Total cost 1000 baht and zero time at immigration.

Money well spent. 

Anything that avoids aggravation is worth it in my book.. 

[Jingthing]

I have a fun question that I've never heard before.

Suppose your address report is due but you don't have your passport because you're in the renewal process.

Say you normally do it online, but you don't know at the date of your address report whether your current (soon old) passport is even still valid as the new one's date may have started already.

It seems to me you can't do a report in that case, and would need to wait until late.

As far as doing it online when you don't have it, sometimes they reject online reports and say come on in.

It seems to me that would be worse than not doing it if you couldn't come in in a timely way.

 

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Say you normally do it online, but you don't know at the date of your address report whether your current (soon old) passport is even still valid as the new one's date may have started already

You would do 90 report online providing details of old pp. 

That could continue till you do transfer of stamps at immigration for new pp. 

Immigration (online reports) would not be aware of pp renewal. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You would do 90 report online providing details of old pp. 

That could continue till you do transfer of stamps at immigration for new pp. 

Immigration (online reports) would not be aware of pp renewal. 

What if they rejected an online report keeping in mind you are not in possession of ANY passport? Then they would say come in and you couldn't come in until later when the report would be late and needing to happen on new passport as old one would be cancelled. It seems to me that's a riskiet situation than just waiting for the new passport to do a lare report. 

[DrJack54]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What if they rejected an online report keeping in mind you are not in possession of ANY passport?

You would be aware of obtaining new pp in advance. 

Take any required copies and do 90 report via mail. 

 

[Equatorial]

On 4/12/2024 at 8:37 AM, cdemundo said:

The alternative that hasn't been mentioned is that you can send an authorized representative.

 

What exactly counts as an "authorized representative"?

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Equatorial said:

 

What exactly counts as an "authorized representative"?

Cut/paste from ubonjoe... 

 

"You can give written permission for somebody to do your 90 day reports. It needs have their name and passport or ID card number on it.

My wife does mine but she does not need my permission to do it because she is my wife" 

 

Good idea to also write your phone #