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35 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

There has always been violence in the middle east since the middle ages, why should it stop now?

I thought the violence went way further back in time. At least as far back as the Jews with the Ark of the Covenant destroyed (genocide?) entire groups of people at God's suggestion( was he that gave them the power of the Ark).

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7 hours ago, Social Media said:

senior Hezbollah figure Ibrahim Moussawi delivered a stark warning: violence will persist in the Middle East until the Gaza war comes to an end.

I don't think so.

Here is a short list of List of modern conflicts in the Middle East, note: only since 1902

 

 

Date

Conflict

Location

Casualties

1902–1932

Unification of Saudi Arabia[a]

 Riyadh
 Hejaz
 Kuwait
 Nejd
 Transjordan
 Mandatory Iraq
 Nejd and Hejaz

8,000–9,000

1909–1910

Zaraniq rebellion

 Ottoman Empire

830+

1914–1918

Middle Eastern theatre of World War I[p]

 Ottoman Empire
 Persia
 Egypt

 Nejd and Hasa
 Jabal Shammar
 Kuwait
 Lahej
 Armenia
 Azerbaijan

Ottoman Empire deaths including civilians:
2,825,000[3][4][5]–5,000,000[6]
Allied killed, wounded, captured or missing:
1,000,000–1,500,000 
[citation needed]
Persians died by famine or disease, excluding influenza:
2,000,000
[7][8][9]

1918–1922

Simko Shikak revolt[10]

 Persia

1,000–5,500

1919

Egyptian Revolution of 1919[11]

 Egypt

3,000

1919–1923

Turkish War of Independence [b]

 Ottoman Empire
 Greece
 Armenia
 Soviet Union

170,500–873,000

1919–2003

Iraqi–Kurdish conflict [c]

 Mandatory Iraq
 Kingdom of Iraq
 Iraq
 Kingdom of Kurdistan

139,000–320,000 killed

1920

Franco-Syrian War

 Arab Kingdom of Syria
 OETA

5,000

1920

Iraqi revolt against the British[12][13]

 Mandatory Iraq

2,050–9,000

1921–1948[l]

Sectarian conflict in Mandatory Palestine

 Mandatory Palestine

7,813

1923

Adwan Rebellion

 Transjordan

100

1925–1927

Great Syrian Revolt (Druze War)[14]

 Greater Lebanon
 State of Syria
 Jabal Druze
 Alawite State

8,000–12,000

1925

Sheikh Said rebellion[15]

 Turkey

15,000–250,500

1930

Ararat rebellion[16][17][18][19][20]

 Turkey

 Republic of Ararat

4,500–47,000

1933

Simele massacre[21]

 Kingdom of Iraq

3,000

1934

Saudi-Yemeni War[22]

 Saudi Arabia
 Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen

2,100

1935

Imam Reza shrine rebellion[23]

 Iran

151

1935–1936

1935–1936 Iraqi Shia revolts

 Iraq

500

1935

1935 Yazidi revolt[21]

 Iraq

200

1936

1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine

   

1937

Dersim rebellion[24]

 Turkey

40,000–70,000

1939–1945

Mediterranean and Middle East theatre of World War II

·       Italian invasion of Egypt

·       Bombing of Bahrain in World War II

·       Italian bombing of Mandatory Palestine in World War II

·       Anglo-Iraqi War

·       Syria–Lebanon campaign

·       Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran

 Iraq
 Iran
 French Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon
 Mandatory Palestine

≈16,000[citation needed]

1946

Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine

   

1946

Egyptian Student Riots[25][26]

 Egypt

100–300

1946

Iran crisis of 1946[2][15][e]

 Iran
 Republic of Mahabad
 Azerbaijan People's Government

2,000

1948–

Arab–Israeli conflict[f]

 Egypt
 All-Palestine Government
 Egypt
 United Arab Republic
 Syrian Republic
 Ba'athist Syria
 Jordan
 Lebanon
 Israel
 Palestinian Authority

73,000–84,000

1948

Alwaziri coup[2]

 Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen

4,000–5,000

1948

Al-Wathbah uprising

 Iraq

300–400

1952

Egyptian revolution of 1952[2]

 Egypt

1,000

1953

1953 Iranian coup d'état[2][15][27]

 Iran

300–800

1954–1960

Jebel Akhdar War[15]

 Muscat and Oman

100–523

1955–1959

Cyprus Emergency[28][29]

 Cyprus

400–600

1956

Suez Crisis

   

1956–1960

Yemeni–Adenese clan violence[2]

 Aden

1,000

1958

1958 Lebanon Crisis[2][11][29]

 Lebanon

1,300–4,000

1958

1958 Iraqi Revolution[2]

 Arab Federation

100

1959

1959 Mosul uprising[2]

 Iraqi Republic

2,000–4,000

1962–1970

North Yemen Civil War[30][31][g]

 North Yemen
 Saudi Arabia
 Egypt

100,000–200,000

1962–1975

Dhofar Rebellion[15]

 Oman

10,000

1963

1963 Riots in Iran[15]

 Iran

100

1963

February 1963 Ba'athist Iraqi coup[32]

 Iraq

1,000

1963

8th of March Syrian Revolution[33]

 United Arab Republic
 Syria

820

1963–1967

Aden Emergency[34]

 Federation of South Arabia
 South Yemen

2,096

1963

November 1963 Iraqi coup[32]

 Iraq

250

1964

1964 Hama riot[35][36]

 Syria

70–100

1966

1966 neo-Ba'athist coup d'état in Syria[15]

 Syria

400

1966

1966 Arif Abd ar-Razzaq second coup[37]

 Iraq

80–100

1970–1971

Black September[29]

 Jordan

2,000–25,000

1972

Yemenite War of 1972

 South Yemen   North Yemen

100+

1974

Turkish invasion of Cyprus[22][38]

 Cyprus

1,500–5,000

1974

Shatt al-Arab clashes[39]

 Iran

1,000

1975–1990

Lebanese Civil War[40][h]

 Lebanon

150,000

1976–1980

Political violence in Turkey (1976–1980)[41][42][43]

 Turkey

5,000–5,388

1978–1982

NDF Rebellion

 North Yemen

100+

1978–

Kurdish–Turkish conflict (1978–present)[44]

 Turkey
 Iraqi Kurdistan
 Iraq

30,000–100,000

1979

Yemenite War of 1979

 South Yemen   North Yemen

1,000+

1979

Iranian Revolution[45][46]

 Iran

3,164–60,000

1979–1980

Consolidation of the Iranian Revolution [i]

 Iran

10,171

1979–1983

Saudi Eastern Province unrest[47]

 Saudi Arabia

182–219

1979

Grand Mosque seizure[48]

 Saudi Arabia

307

1979–1982

Islamist uprising in Syria

 Syria

40,000+

1980

1980 Turkish coup d'état[49][50]

 Turkey

127–550

1980

1980 Sadr uprising[51]

 Iraq

1,000–30,000

1980–1988

Iran–Iraq War[22][52][j]

 Iran
 Iraq
 Kuwait

1,000,000–1,250,000

1986

South Yemen Civil War[53]

 South Yemen

5,000–12,000

1986

1986 Egyptian Conscription Riot[54]

 Egypt

107

1986

1986 Damascus bombings[55]

 Syria

204

1987

Iranian pilgrim riot (Mecca massacre)[56]

 Saudi Arabia

402

1987–1988

ANO Executions

 Lebanon
 Syria

170

1989–1996

KDPI insurgency (1989–1996)

 Iran

168–503

1990–1991

Gulf War[40]

 Iraq
 Kuwait
 Saudi Arabia

40,000–57,000

1991

1991 Iraqi uprisings[51][57]

 Iraq

50,000–100,000

1994

1994 civil war in Yemen

 Yemen

7,000–10,000

1995–

Islamic Insurgency in Saudi Arabia

 Saudi Arabia

300

1998

Operation Desert Fox[28][29] (Iraqi no-fly zones)

 Iraq

2,000

1999

1999 Shia uprising in Iraq[15][58]

 Iraq

100–200

2003–2011

Iraq War[59][60][61][62][63][64][k]

 Ba'athist Iraq
 Iraq

109,032–650,726
See also: 
Casualties of the Iraq War

2004

Qamishli massacre (2004)[65][66]

 Syria

30–100

2004–2014

Shia insurgency in Yemen[67][68][69]

 Saudi Arabia
 Yemen

8,500–25,000

2004–

Iran–PJAK conflict[70]

 Iran

588–747

2006–

Fatah–Hamas conflict[71][72]

 Palestinian Authority
 Gaza Strip

600+

2006–

Iran–Israel proxy conflict

 Iran
 Israel

≈2000

2007

Nahr al-Bared fighting

 Lebanon

480

2008

2008 Lebanon conflict

 Lebanon

105

2009–2015

South Yemen Insurgency[73]

 Yemen

2,100+

2010–2015

Yemeni al-Qaeda crackdown[74][75]

 Yemen

3,000+

2011

2011 Bahraini uprising

 Bahrain
 Saudi Arabia

100+

2011–

Shia insurgency in Bahrain

 Bahrain

22+

2011–2014

Egyptian crisis (2011–14)[m]

 Egypt

7,000+

2011–

Yemeni Crisis (2011–present)[a]

 Yemen

9,000+

2011–

Syrian Civil War[n]

 Syria

503,064–613,407 +

2011–2017

Syrian Civil War spillover in Lebanon

 Lebanon

≈800

2011–

Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict

 Saudi Arabia
 Iran

 

2013–2017

War in Iraq (2013–2017)[n]

 Iraq

155,500–165,500+

2015–

Yemeni Civil War[b]

·       Saudi Arabian–led intervention in Yemen

 Yemen
 Saudi Arabia
 United Arab Emirates

377,000+

2016–

Western Iran clashes

 Iran

74–156

15–16 July 2016

2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt

 Turkey

270–350

2017

2017 Iraqi–Kurdish conflict

 Iraq

+305

2017–

Iraqi insurgency (2017–present)

 Iraq

4,000+

2023–

Israel–Hamas war[c]

 Israel
 West Bank
 Gaza Strip

34,000+

2023–

Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

 Israel
 Lebanon

400+

2023–

Red Sea crisis

 Yemen
 Israel
Red Sea
Gulf of Aden

40+

 

2024–

2024 Iran–Israel conflict

 Iran
 Israel
 Jordan
 Syria
 Iraq
 Yemen
 Lebanon

20+


 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

I thought the violence went way further back in time. At least as far back as the Jews with the Ark of the Covenant destroyed (genocide?) entire groups of people at God's suggestion( was he that gave them the power of the Ark).

Yes but that flavour of violence was world wide, man is a very violent animal, one would have to go back as far as the era of the hunter gatherers, before land possession, to find relative peace among humans. peaceful coexistence as exhibited in some Arab nations at that time was quite rare and didn't last long, the one overarching similarity among human beings is greed, it is even apparent in small children, it isn't taught, unlike religion or racism which isn't inherent in children.

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What a ridiculous statement. Want peace in the Middle East (relative peace)? Destroy Iran and all of its proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, et al.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Albaby said:

When all the muslims convert to Christianity, Buddhism Hinduism etc, there will be peace.

If a savage muslim converts to Christianity, Buddhism Hinduism etc, they will probably still be a savage!

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Posted
1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Why? Christians have shed a lot of blood in the middle east especially during the crusades when it was sanctified by the pope. Buddhists and Hindus don't try converting others so no chance there. There has always been violence in the middle east since the middle ages, why should it stop now?

Never heard about violence against Muslims in India and Myanmar? Even what seems to be the most tolerant religion (Buddhism) is not exempt of religious violence.

The main issue is not so much religion itself, than people (usually men) who want to have power by using religion.

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2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Before or at the beginning of the middle ages the Arab world was THE seat of learning and progress, Christians, Muslims and Jews all lived peacefully together. Great progress was made there in physiology, astronomy, mathematics and philosophy.....unfortunately much has changed, politics and religion are great hindrances to peace and knowledge....oil hasn't helped much either.

Arabs were rather smart at that time (and later the Ottomans). They were governing very large territories, but actually they were very few people. So they had to find ways to be accepted by the local people. Hence the special status granted to  Christians and Jews. For the same reason, they initially had very few scientists, writers, artists and administrators.

 

They also were often smart about conversions. Non-Muslim were tolerated, but had some economic drawbacks, such as paying more tax or being barred from lucrative occupations, so there was a strong economic motive to convert to Islam.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, loong said:

Did you miss what happened on the 7th of October last year? You don't think that it was hateful, murdering Muslim savages that attacked Israeli citizens? The Palestinians started the war and what did they expect Israel to do? Slap their hands and ask them not to do it again?

We are now in 2024. April. Where have you been in the meantime????😳

You missed the massacre, murdering 30.000 of innocent women and children in Gaza?? 😳

 

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8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

We are now in 2024. April. Where have you been in the meantime????😳

You missed the massacre, murdering 30.000 of innocent women and children in Gaza?? 😳

 

I also missed the the murdering massacre of 30,000 women and kids yet I’ve been following this since 10th Oct.

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5 minutes ago, candide said:

Arabs were rather smart at that time (and later the Ottomans). They were governing very large territories, but actually they were very few people. So they had to find ways to be accepted by the local people. Hence the special status granted to  Christians and Jews. For the same reason, they initially had very few scientists, writers, artists and administrators.

 

They also were often smart about conversions. Non-Muslim were tolerated, but had some economic drawbacks, such as paying more tax or being barred from lucrative occupations, so there was a strong economic motive to convert to Islam.

Rather like the Jews in Europe, the only occupation left to them was as money lenders to the powerful which on the one side made them wealthy but made them vulnerabel (a pogrom could get rid of ones debt). The Templers found that out when the French king decided his debt was too large and they had a lot of land and cash. The Arabs certainly had astronomers, how else do you navigate through the desert if not by the stars. Their doctors, unlike the Europeans, had no qualms about dissecting dead bodies which increased their knowledge of the human body, many European doctors traveled there to learn from them. They also had good craftsmen and even traded with the Vikings (who they found to be dirty and violent). They had philosophers and writers, a famous one would be a Persian tent maker Omar Kyem who wrote the Rubaiyat of Omar Kyem, most people know the first line of one of his verses even today :-

'The moving hand doth write

and having writ moves on

nor all your piety nor wit shall cancel half a line

nor all your tears wash out one word of it'

He rebutted regret or the use of repentance, what's done is done, in fact he was rather scathing of religion in general, a wonder he survived.

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The only religion is money, wealth for a few.

Religion with a god is a tool to work with. You indoctrinate, control, manipulate people with it.

All countries have "leaders" and groups with their own personal gain(dictators). Nothing more, nothing less.

 

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42 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That isn't true , that is Hamas lies .

Do not believe anything Hamas  say , its unlikely to have any truth in it what so ever 

You're blind, blond and deaf? 😂😂😂. The figures are confirmed by Israel. You think both are telling lies? Israelis and Hamas? 😂😂😂 Oh dear

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Just now, newbee2022 said:

You're blind, blond and deaf? 😂😂😂. The figures are confirmed by Israel. You think both are telling lies? Israelis and Hamas? 😂😂😂 Oh dear

 

   Neither Israel or Hamas have stated that 30 000 innocent woman and children have died .

You are mistaken in what you read .

You can post a link if you want and I will point out your mistake for you 

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Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Neither Israel or Hamas have stated that 30 000 innocent woman and children have died .

You are mistaken in what you read .

You can post a link if you want and I will point out your mistake for you 

😂😂😂 Ask Netanyahu 😂😂😂. Honestly, the UN said this, Hamas said it, and Israel said it. There are all a bunch of liars? All governments around the world lie? Wow, it's not often that I met somebody ignoring the reality.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#:~:text=The%20vast%20majority%20of%20casualties,at%2066%25%20of%20those%20killed.

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Just now, newbee2022 said:

😂😂😂 Ask Netanyahu 😂😂😂. Honestly, the UN said this, Hamas said it, and Israel said it. There are all a bunch of liars? All governments around the world lie? Wow, it's not often that I met somebody ignoring the reality

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war#:~:text=The vast majority of casualties,at 66% of those killed.

 

   Those are the total number of causalities , everyone who has died in the war .

Hamas terrorists , Palestinian civilians , IDF , hostages and Israeli civilians .

30 000 odd people who have died in the war

You claimed that it was 30 000 innocent woman and Children in Gaza who have died  .

There , I have pointed out your mistake, as I said I would .

About 13 000 of that 30 000 were Hamas members 

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