Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Mavideol]

he provoked Ukraine by illegally invading and Ukrainians don't have the right to do the same  555

Putin Accuses Ukraine of 'Major Provocation' Amid Border Incursion Claims

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-accuses-ukraine-major-provocation-150358673.html

 

[Mavideol]

Ukrainian Forces Fight Inside Russia For Second Day (Updated)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-forces-fight-inside-russia-181554403.html

 

[Mavideol]

Ukraine launches attack into Russia, marking biggest incursion since war began

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/ukraine-launches-attack-russia-marking-131300812.html

 

[Mavideol]

Russia Claims Ukraine Carrying Out Incursion in Kursk Region

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-claims-ukraine-carrying-incursion-142047259.html

 

[Mavideol]

Images of Ukraine's new F-16s and their weapons hint at what the US-made fighter jets may start off doing against the Russians

https://www.yahoo.com/news/images-ukraines-f-16s-weapons-191343815.html

 

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Roo Island said:

The desire of the US government is to prevent needless civilian killings by Russia. Nothing to do with the demise of Russia, though Putin is bringing this upon himself.

 

You seem to have it backward. Certainly deluded if you think Ukraine can bring about the demise of Russia, IMO.

 

If you are correct and it is not about the demise of Russia ( hahahaha ) the loss of life in Ukraine is easily achieved by halting the supply of weapons to Ukraine followed by a negotiated end to the war.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but if Russia uses nuclear weapons they are toast.

That's why it's called MAD.

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

See David Axe's Forbe's article I posted.

 

In that context, it’s unforgivable for any Ukrainian or pro-Ukrainian commander to waste lives on a raid that, at best, has only fleeting propaganda value. Those hundreds of legionnaires should be defending in the east instead of adventuring in the north.

There is a thread about it now.

IMO it's possibly a diversion, though one wonders what rabbit they have left to pullout of the hat.

 

Perhaps they hope that the Russians will be looking at Kursk, while the 10 F16s carry out a raid on the Kremlin, or perhaps they have secreted an army of Ukrainian women volunteers to invade Russia and take Moscow with the remaining Leopards in the spearhead.

 

Otherwise, one wonders if it really is a madman ordering non existent armies to attack.

Edited August 8 by thaibeachlovers

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

You seem to have it backward. Certainly deluded if you think Ukraine can bring about the demise of Russia, IMO.

 

If you are correct and it is not about the demise of Russia ( hahahaha ) the loss of life in Ukraine is easily achieved by halting the supply of weapons to Ukraine followed by a negotiated end to the war.

 

 

Translation. 

You're pro Putin and want Ukraine to surrender.

Edited August 8 by Jingthing

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Translation. 

You're pro Putin and want Ukraine to surrender.

Translation. 

You're pro Ukraine, and want all Ukrainians dead.

[jas007]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Translation. 

You're pro Putin and want Ukraine to surrender.

Well, inasmuch as Ukraine cannot win this war, surrender is the only sensible option.  Unless you somehow think WWIII would be a good thing.  Of course, that seems to be exactly what the warmongers want.  I wonder where they think they’re going to hide? 

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Well, inasmuch as Ukraine cannot win this war, surrender is the only sensible option.  Unless you somehow think WWIII would be a good thing.  Of course, that seems to be exactly what the warmongers want.  I wonder where they think they’re going to hide? 

I find your narrative ridiculous. 

Who's the war monger?

PUTIN

Edited August 8 by Jingthing

[Seppius]

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

he provoked Ukraine by illegally invading and Ukrainians don't have the right to do the same  555

Putin Accuses Ukraine of 'Major Provocation' Amid Border Incursion Claims

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-accuses-ukraine-major-provocation-150358673.html

 

That is so funny, would have loved to see the look on Putrid's face when he heard about Ukraine's "invasion"

[jas007]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I find your narrative ridiculous. 

Why?  Ukraine is out of soldiers. Most of them are dead or wounded and out of commission.  They simply cannot achieve any kind of victory at this point. What’s next?  NATO involvement?  If you think there’s any way that makes sense, explain yourself.  I’m assuming you don’t have a bunker to hide in during the thermonuclear exchange that would almost certainly result from such idiocy. So, tell us how WWIII makes any sense.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Why?  Ukraine is out of soldiers. Most of them are dead or wounded and out of commission.  They simply cannot achieve any kind of victory at this point. What’s next?  NATO involvement?  If you think there’s any way that makes sense, explain yourself.  I’m assuming you don’t have a bunker to hide in during the thermonuclear exchange that would almost certainly result from such idiocy. So, tell us how WWIII makes any sense.

Not to worry, Kamala and lying, "stolen valor" Timmy will have American boots on the ground in no time....

[jas007]

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Not to worry, Kamala and lying, "stolen valor" Timmy will have American boots on the ground in no time....

And that’s a big problem, no?  For the life of me, I’m not sure how WWIII sounds like a good plan to anyone.  And yet that’s the warmonger dream scenario.  America would be gone, Europe would be gone. Russia would be gone.  

[tgw]

25 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Why?  Ukraine is out of soldiers. Most of them are dead or wounded and out of commission.  They simply cannot achieve any kind of victory at this point. What’s next?  NATO involvement?  If you think there’s any way that makes sense, explain yourself.  I’m assuming you don’t have a bunker to hide in during the thermonuclear exchange that would almost certainly result from such idiocy. So, tell us how WWIII makes any sense.

 

Your premise is probably false, since it's estimated that there are over 11 million draftable men and over 3 million have updated their military information.

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, jas007 said:

And that’s a big problem, no?  For the life of me, I’m not sure how WWIII sounds like a good plan to anyone.  And yet that’s the warmonger dream scenario.  America would be gone, Europe would be gone. Russia would be gone.  

The left does not care, none of them will be going. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

Why?  Ukraine is out of soldiers. Most of them are dead or wounded and out of commission.  They simply cannot achieve any kind of victory at this point. What’s next?  NATO involvement?  If you think there’s any way that makes sense, explain yourself.  I’m assuming you don’t have a bunker to hide in during the thermonuclear exchange that would almost certainly result from such idiocy. So, tell us how WWIII makes any sense.

Not going to be baited by regurgitated Kremlin talking points propaganda.

 

This is more like it:

 

Edited August 8 by Jingthing

[tgw]

time to prepare the popcorn

 

 

[jas007]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Not going to be baited by regurgitated Kremlin talking points propaganda.

 

This is more like it:

 

In other words, you can’t formulate an informed response.

[jas007]

31 minutes ago, tgw said:

time to prepare the popcorn

 

 

If only it were that simple.  Break out the popcorn and watch the world burn. I can’t even imagine that any part if the civilized world will be spared.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

In other words, you can’t formulate an informed response.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia's intention is to erase Ukraine.

Russia does not recognize Ukraine as sovereign nation, language, people, or culture.

Ukraine is fighting for it's existence.

Years after war criminal dictator Putin invaded (which actually started in 2014) Ukraine is successfully resisting and still very much exists.

You call that losing? 

[jas007]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia's intention is to erase Ukraine.

Russia does not recognize Ukraine as sovereign nation, language, people, or culture.

Ukraine is fighting for it's existence.

Years after war criminal dictator Putin invaded (which actually started in 2014) Ukraine is successfully resisting and still very much exists.

You call that losing? 

Yes.  Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.  And if you stopped reading so much propaganda, you’d know that.  Let’s revisit the issue in a few weeks.  And if we’re lucky, the nonsense will be over by then.  If not, we’re all in trouble.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

Yes.  Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.  And if you stopped reading so much propaganda, you’d know that.  Let’s revisit the issue in a few weeks.  And if we’re lucky, the nonsense will be over by then.  If not, we’re all in trouble.

No mention of the pressures on Russia society and you talk about reading so much propaganda.

 

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, jas007 said:

In other words, you can’t formulate an informed response.

You don't seem happy about Russia being invaded.

 

Putin seems pretty helpless right now.

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Yes.  Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.  And if you stopped reading so much propaganda, you’d know that.  Let’s revisit the issue in a few weeks.  And if we’re lucky, the nonsense will be over by then.  If not, we’re all in trouble.

Russia is in trouble.

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, jas007 said:

If only it were that simple.  Break out the popcorn and watch the world burn. I can’t even imagine that any part if the civilized world will be spared.

You seem disconnected from reality. Is this WW3 in the room with you right now?

[transam]

15 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Yes.  Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.  And if you stopped reading so much propaganda, you’d know that.  Let’s revisit the issue in a few weeks.  And if we’re lucky, the nonsense will be over by then.  If not, we’re all in trouble.

No, just you. Mentally........🤭

[GroveHillWanderer]

Seems not all Russians are necessarily all that unhappy to see Ukrainian soldiers in their cities. This one appears quite sanguine about it all.

 

A russian living in Kursk ( russia ), sums up today's events in the Kursk region

 

https://x.com/intermarium24/status/1821322068971094393