Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[steven100]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's all over the internet. According to some sources it's 10 villages captured from the Ukrainians.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/11/russia-claims-kursk-counteroffensive-pushing-back-ukraine-forces

Russia claims Kursk counteroffensive pushing back Ukraine forces

Moscow’s troops have retaken some 10 settlements, claims major general; no comment from Ukraine.

maybe you don't support Russia ....   I don't know ..   

It's not a level playing field which ever way you look at it ...

I hope the blow Moscow of the planet.

 

anyway ...  you are wrong,  I do listen to others opinions and decipherer .. 

I am apologise ....   we just go on as we have todo.. 

 

 

[problemfarang]

Cheers to everyone..

We are changing our positions after todays fight.. fighting still going on

 

 

Edited September 12 by Social Media
removed combat photo on members request

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, problemfarang said:

Cheers to everyone..

We are changing our positions after todays fight.. fighting still going on

 

 

Keep as safe as possible amigo. A fight for justice

[beautifulthailand99]

Ukraine Has Run Out Of Modern Vehicles For The New Brigades It’s Forming - The new 154th Mechanized Brigade mostly has vehicles from the 1960s. David Axe FWIW I think David Axe writes a lot of tosh by the yard so he may well be wrong on this take as well. Him and Colonel Hamish who are having a good war.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/09/10/ukraine-has-run-out-of-modern-vehicles-for-the-new-brigades-its-forming/

 

The Russian army was rightly mocked for dragging ancient T-62s out of long-term storage to replace some of the thousands of tanks it has lost in Ukraine; it’s no less embarrassing for the Ukrainian army to ride back into battle in the geriatric T-62s.

It doesn’t help that foreign donations of armored vehicles have slowed considerably since peaking in the lead-up to Ukraine’s summer 2023 counteroffensive. That slowdown is a major reason that new brigades are forming without a lot of modern vehicles, according to Gen. Oleksandr Syrskyi, Ukraine’s top officer.

[coolcarer]

More Ukraine partners doing the right thing.

 

Latvia pledges new military aid package for Ukraine, including armored vehicles

Latvia, one of Ukraine’s biggest supporters, has committed to providing military support at the level of 0.25% of its GDP every year and will provide thousands of drones, Ukraine's Defense Minister Rustem Umerov said.
Along with the U.K., Latvia is the leader of the drone coalition, an allied initiative established to supply Ukrainian forces with this crucial capability. Riga has pledged 112 million euros ($126 million) in military support to Ukraine this year and will help expand the initiative.

https://kyivindependent.com/latvia-pledges-new-military-aid-package/

[Social Media]

Numerous off topic posts removed, next time it will be the poster aswell 

[kwonitoy]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In that case don't complain when Putin puts a ballistic missile into Kyiv in response.

 

 

You mean like they already do and have done for the last 2.5 years?

Nobody should ever fight back against an invader?

Pic from 6 months ago

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

More Ukrainians Want to Negotiate an End to the War. Soldiers Don’t Agree.
The debate highlights a tension in Ukrainian society between those who are in combat and those who aren’t - WSJ

 

https://archive.is/avmk7#selection-2217.0-2221.105

 

 Fifteen percent of soldiers and veterans said they would join an armed protest if Kyiv signed a peace treaty that they didn’t agree with.

 

Though polls show that the general public also remains skeptical of deals with Putin, many—especially younger people—are ready to accept an imperfect peace to stop the war.
Alla Pronina, a 33-year-old schoolteacher in the southeastern city of Zaporizhzhia, said she began to reconsider the possibility of negotiations after last year’s counteroffensive. Now, with her husband away fighting, she is willing to give up all the territory Russia currently occupies in exchange for peace.
“Where can we go with this war?” she said.  Yes Alla a very good question indeed.

 

And therein lies the post war problem - post cessation of hostilities however that happens there will be battled hardened death or glory uber-nationalists who will refuse to give up and if necessary will fight the the central government - a return of strong man war lordism. Something that no EU or NATO country has or indeed wants.

Edited September 12 by beautifulthailand99

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

More Ukrainians Want to Negotiate an End to the War. Soldiers Don’t Agree.
The debate highlights a tension in Ukrainian society between those who are in combat and those who aren’t - WSJ

 

https://archive.is/avmk7#selection-2217.0-2221.105

 

 Fifteen percent of soldiers and veterans said they would join an armed protest if Kyiv signed a peace treaty that they didn’t agree with.

 

And therein lies the post war problem - post cessation of hostilities however that happens there will be battled hardened death or glory uber-nationalists who will refuse to give up and if necessary will fight the the central government - a return of strong man war lordism. Something that no EU or NATO country has or indeed wants.

From your link. 

 

majority of Ukrainians still say they want to keep fighting to retake all Russian-occupied land

[beautifulthailand99]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

From your link. 

 

majority of Ukrainians still say they want to keep fighting to retake all Russian-occupied land

 

 

Wall Street Journal is now quoting Andriy "my lifes mission is to lead the white race against the jews" Biletskiy like its nothing. Bodes well for the future of Ukraine.

Literally the first sentence on his Wikipedia political views section not even some deep kept secret.How much Zelensky is really in charge is an open question too. Based on this article, and taken at face value - I am more convinced than ever that he's a dead man if he even casually mentions negotiations. He would be strung up and the military would take over.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Biletsky#Political_views

 

 

Edited September 12 by beautifulthailand99

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

 

Wall Street Journal is now quoting Andriy "my lifes mission is to lead the white race against the jews" Biletskiy like its nothing. Bodes well for the future of Ukraine.

Literally the first sentence on his Wikipedia political views section not even some deep kept secret.How much Zelensky is really in charge is an open question too. Based on this article, and taken at face value - I am more convinced than ever that he's a dead man if he even casually mentions negotiations. He would be strung up and the military would take over.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Biletsky#Political_views

 

 

What's that got to do with

 

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

From your link. 

 

majority of Ukrainians still say they want to keep fighting to retake all Russian-occupied land

 

[beautifulthailand99]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What's that got to do with

 

 

I did no misqouting which I think you seem to infer I just  echoed the headline more not most and then did a bit of digging about this controversial fellow that the WSJ decided to focus on.

 

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Biletskiy said it wasn’t his place to weigh in on what an appropriate peace settlement would be, which he called a political question. But he said he decided to speak publicly—something he has rarely done since the start of the invasion in February 2022—in response to the shifting national mood, which he said was hurting the motivation of troops at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Biletsky#Political_views

 

During his speech at a 2009 general meeting of the party he said: "How then can we describe our enemy? The general regime in power are oligarchs. Is there anything they have in common? Yes, one thing in common – they are Jews, or their true bosses – Jews – are behind them. Out of one hundred published richest people in Ukraine 92 are Jews, and some others of Tatar origin"

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I did no misqouting which I think you seem to infer I just  echoed the headline more not most and then did a bit of digging about this controversial fellow that the WSJ decided to focus on.

 

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Biletskiy said it wasn’t his place to weigh in on what an appropriate peace settlement would be, which he called a political question. But he said he decided to speak publicly—something he has rarely done since the start of the invasion in February 2022—in response to the shifting national mood, which he said was hurting the motivation of troops at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Biletsky#Political_views

 

During his speech at a 2009 general meeting of the party he said: "How then can we describe our enemy? The general regime in power are oligarchs. Is there anything they have in common? Yes, one thing in common – they are Jews, or their true bosses – Jews – are behind them. Out of one hundred published richest people in Ukraine 92 are Jews, and some others of Tatar origin"

I Inferred nothing and I have no interest in what he said in 2009, its way off topic.

 

Again it has zero to do with the poll:

 

29 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

From your link. 

 

majority of Ukrainians still say they want to keep fighting to retake all Russian-occupied land

 

[Patong2021]

On 9/8/2024 at 1:57 AM, beautifulthailand99 said:

Quite a piece of work - tldr we must get ready to fight China as they are far to successfull at keeping their heads down and making stuff (like the cheap tech we are writing this on ) and because US must always have an existential threat  to keep the militray indistrial complex humming. Pax Americana - oops we just destroyed a country with the best intentions ! Besides which the China wars you mention are skirmishes and border disputes in their backyard whatever the rights and wrongs of them they are utterly dwarfed by US adventurism. I despair for humanity - the world is boiling yet bright minds want more weapons.

 

Oh and the Korean War is historic irelevant when arguing about modern China.

 

Why is the Korean war irrelevant?  China repeated its Korean  strategy in India and then Vietnam. 

 

The  accusations of a US military industrial complex are unfounded when one considers  the state of the US military supply chain now. The Putin Collective gleefully points out the  low manufacturing output of ordinance in the USA, screaming with delight that unlike Putin's Russia, the USA  is not making "enough" artillery shells and other munitions.  Today, astronauts are sitting up in the ISS waiting for a ride home because  Boeing can't guarantee a safe trip. So much for the great overpowering military industrial complex of the USA.

The US military is one of the most significant drivers of medical and technological research in the world. Its infectious disease unit directly impacts the quality of life of everyone in  Thailand with its work on HIV, dengue, malaria and other insect  borne illnesses. Fat farangs are able to travel to Thailand in comfort on aircraft developed in large part because of  US military advances  in aviation. It is the US military that has delivered aid to catastrophe stricken regions of the world and it was that US military industrial complex that responded to the first ebola crisis in Africa that prevented the world from succumbing to a plague much worse and far deadlier than Covid. And it was the US military industrial complex that provided the framework for one of the greatest humanitarian efforts in the world, when the  administration of President George Bush (the younger) launched its AIDS relief in campaign in Africa saving the lives of millions of people.  Russia and China certainly did not help, nor contribute. 

[kwonitoy]

 

[kwonitoy]

 

[Bkk Brian]

Russia can end war now, says PM as Putin warns West

Russia "started" the conflict in Ukraine and can end it "straight away”, Sir Keir Starmer has said after Vladimir Putin suggested Moscow would regard Western missiles being fired into Russia as a serious escalation of the war.
The PM is in Washington for talks with US President Joe Biden on Friday, as allies of Kyiv discuss giving Ukraine permission to fire their missiles at targets inside Russia.
Putin told Russian state television that this would “mean nothing other than the direct participation of Nato countries - the US and European countries - in the war in Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgxgvw38xjo

[Gweiloman]

17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

When was the last time people on this topic were claiming Putin was dying or would be deposed in a coup? Who has ever said Russia was running out of money for its military complex and purchases? Who has claimed its running out of men? 

 

Talk about the truth, its time for you to reflect on that yourself. Your posts are nothing but Russian talking points and propaganda

In my opinion, beautifulthailand99 posts what he believes is the truth, which I agree. He does his research, reads articles from both approved credible and “forbidden” sources and comes to his own conclusions, unlike many who takes everything reported by western msm as “facts”.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

In my opinion, beautifulthailand99 posts what he believes is the truth, which I agree. He does his research, reads articles from both approved credible and “forbidden” sources and comes to his own conclusions, unlike many who takes everything reported by western msm as “facts”.

You've admitted to preferring Russia to win the war already, of course you agree with him............

[steven100]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Putin told Russian state television that this would “mean nothing other than the direct participation of Nato countries - the US and European countries - in the war in Ukraine.

 

more Putin yapping like a Chihuahua ....  

the west aren't buying his words anymore ....  they don't care what he says. 

[Mavideol]

Opinion - NATO: Call Russia’s bluff and let Ukraine strike back

https://au.yahoo.com/news/opinion-nato-call-russia-bluff-170000312.html

 

[Mavideol]

US tanks weren’t ready for Russian attacks. Ukraine has a fix

https://au.yahoo.com/news/us-tanks-weren-t-ready-100000525.html

[Mavideol]

Zelenskiy says Kyiv anticipated Russian counterattack in Kursk

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russian-drones-pound-power-system-080224413.html

[Mavideol]

Ukraine’s Kursk offensive was seen as a major success, but it came at a huge cost

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-kursk-offensive-seen-major-040120829.html

 

[Mavideol]

War in Ukraine: Kyiv presents US with list of Russian targets

https://au.yahoo.com/news/war-ukraine-kyiv-presents-us-190719254.html

 

[Mavideol]

some may be wetting their pants 555

'I hope they won't reach us' - Russian fears grow over long-range missile strikes

https://au.yahoo.com/news/hope-wont-reach-us-russian-124200923.html

 

[Mavideol]

same treats, same blablabla, same propaganda, knows Nato will destroy him in no time, we all know the guy is nuts, but not nuts enough to push the button knowing the payback from Nato will be his end

 

Putin says West allowing Ukraine to use its long-range missiles to strike in Russia would put Nato at war with Moscow

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-says-west-allowing-ukraine-201215001.html

 

Edited September 13 by Mavideol

[Mavideol]

does he really thinks Nato will believe him, he's just wetting his pants knowing his end is coming

Russia will be ‘at war’ with NATO if Ukraine long-range missile restrictions lifted, Putin warns

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-warns-nato-war-russia-001531030.html

[Mavideol]

Starmer arrives in US for talks with Biden on conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza

https://au.yahoo.com/news/starmer-arrives-us-talks-biden-213000397.html

 

[Mavideol]

Iran hawks still skeptical as Blinken unveils sanctions for Tehran’s ballistic missile sales to Russia

https://au.yahoo.com/news/iran-hawks-still-skeptical-blinken-192913364.html