Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: Thanks for not answering the question. How does it not bode well? My pleasure 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: The exact opposite to its a marvelous statistic for Muslims in the UK to be conspiracy theorists. What do you think? There is a 6 page topic on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: My pleasure There is a six page topic on it. Lots of viewpoints in a 6 page topic. Feel free to quote yourself from those pages so I know what your take on the issue is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, placeholder said: There is a six page topic on it. Lots of viewpoints in a 6 page topic. Feel free to quote yourself from those pages so I know what your take on the issue is. Hint for you, what do you think exposure to conspiracy theories can lead to? Is it possible that it can lead to real world actions as a result? Would that bode well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Hint for you, what do you think exposure to conspiracy theories can lead to? Is it possible that it can lead to real world actions as a result? Would that bode well? I don't think it makes much difference given all the actual horrors that Palestinians are experiencing in Gaza and on the West bank. There's more than enough fuel for rage there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: I don't think it makes much difference given all the actual horrors that Palestinians are experiencing in Gaza and on the West bank. There's more than enough fuel for rage there. How much fuel for rage is left in the Israeli gas tanks from the Oct 7 th terror attack ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: How much fuel for rage is left in the Israeli gas tanks from the Oct 7 th terror attack ? Appaarently enough to justify attempting to starve 2 million people. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/21/israeli-soldiers-and-police-tipping-off-groups-that-attack-gaza-aid-trucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: I don't think it makes much difference given all the actual horrors that Palestinians are experiencing in Gaza and on the West bank. There's more than enough fuel for rage there. So you don't think the truth makes much difference? Interesting the whole reason there is a war going on. Conspiracy theory beliefs on behaviors is well evidenced in studies, you know that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Appaarently enough to justify attempting to starve 2 million people. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/21/israeli-soldiers-and-police-tipping-off-groups-that-attack-gaza-aid-trucks The people really starving to death in Yemen must be praying for Israel to drop just one bomb on them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 "Hamas Plots Attacks on Israeli Embassy and U.S. Military Base in Germany" ... of course they do. Was the author of the report named Christopher Steele by chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: So you don't think the truth makes much difference? Interesting the whole reason there is a war going on. Conspiracy theory beliefs on behaviors is well evidenced in studies, you know that right? Given that that truth is bad enough as a motivating force, I don't. Most Muslims are enraged about actual actual Israeli conduct. How much angrier or more aggrieved can conspiracy theories make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: The people really starving to death in Yemen must be praying for Israel to drop just one bomb on them . You realize that Saudi Arabia with US support was the reason that at the time, Yemen suffered from the worst crisis of starvation in the world? The Saudis inflicted huge damage on Yemen via its invasion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Given that that truth is bad enough as a motivating force, I don't. Most Muslims are enraged about actual actual Israeli conduct. How much angrier or more aggrieved can conspiracy theories make them? As you seem to be in the know, are they also enraged over their religious group murdering 1200 innocents on 7/10...........? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 20 minutes ago, placeholder said: I don't think it makes much difference given all the actual horrors that Palestinians are experiencing in Gaza and on the West bank. There's more than enough fuel for rage there. Wait, let me get this straight. You are saying you think it doesn't make much difference that "Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel" Is this what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: You realize that Saudi Arabia with US support was the reason that at the time, Yemen suffered from the worst crisis of starvation in the world? The Saudis inflicted huge damage on Yemen via its invasion. Point being that no one cared and no one took any notice . 35 000 children starved to death and no one took any interest . Palestinians pretend that they are hungry and the whole World takes notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, transam said: As you seem to be in the know, are they also enraged over their religious group murdering 1200 innocents on 7/10...........? 🤔 Enraged people are good at not facing facts. Sometimes the grounds for their rage are legitimate. Other times, they are enraged because they lost an election. And believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories rather than accept the loss. Not that you'd be one of those types. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Wait, let me get this straight. You are saying you think it doesn't make much difference that "Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel" Is this what you are saying? How would the consequences of 100^ of them believing that change their conduct when they already have so many legitimate grievances against the Israelis? Would they accept Israel's response as legitimate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Point being that no one cared and no one took any notice . 35 000 children starved to death and no one took any interest . Palestinians pretend that they are hungry and the whole World takes notice It was big news, as a matter of fact. Of course, if you only get your news from Fox and the like, it's possible you might have missed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 It's time the US surrenders to Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: Enraged people are good at not facing facts. Sometimes the grounds for their rage are legitimate. Other times, they are enraged because they lost an election. And believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories rather than accept the loss. Not that you'd be one of those types. Nice dodge, but no cigar........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, placeholder said: How would the consequences of 100^ of them believing that change their conduct when they already have so many legitimate grievances against the Israelis? Would they accept Israel's response as legitimate? The truth always matters. Its the whole reason the war started because of what Hamas did. Not believing Hamas did that will only lead to more rage and radicalization. The possiblity of plots to bomb embassies the possibility of terrorist attacks at venues. The hard evidence is that this leads to real world acts. You are claiming they can get a free pass by ignoring the truth to take out all their vengeance on Israel trying to get its hostages back and eliminate Hamas. Outrageous suggestions by you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, placeholder said: It was big news, as a matter of fact. Of course, if you only get your news from Fox and the like, it's possible you might have missed it. How many threads were there about it on TVF/ASEANNOW ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The truth always matters. Its the whole reason the war started because of what Hamas did. Not believing Hamas did that will only lead to more rage and radicalization. The possiblity of plots to bomb embassies the possibility of terrorist attacks at venues. The hard evidence is that this leads to real world acts. You are claiming they can get a free pass by ignoring the truth to take out all their vengeance on Israel trying to get its hostages back and eliminate Hamas. Outrageous suggestions by you. Right. So, do you believe in the irrelevance of historical examples where other native peoples responded in brutal and horrific ways to their oppression? Or is that only in the case of Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, placeholder said: Right. So, do you believe in the irrelevance of historical examples where other native peoples responded in brutal and horrific ways to their oppression? Or is that only in the case of Israel? Hamas supporter is in attendance...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: How many threads were there about it on TVF/ASEANNOW ? Truly a bizarre comment. Do you believe that the world gets all or most of its news from aseannow.com? Or that the decisions of the moderators about what stories to post represents a statistically sound example of world news? Or is just that case that the only source of news for you is aseannow.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, transam said: Hamas supporter is in attendance...... Once again, trying to make it personal. You've got nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 We've got to expedite Biden's Palestinian refugee program and get as many Hamas members and supporters as we can into the US as quickly as possible. Once they start bombing targets in the US, many Americans may not want to let them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Once again, trying to make it personal. You've got nothing. Facts may hurt in your case......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Right. So, do you believe in the irrelevance of historical examples where other native peoples responded in brutal and horrific ways to their oppression? Or is that only in the case of Israel? Avoiding the truth again. You've lost the plot entirely. 2 of many. The Relationship of Conspiracy Beliefs and Violent Extremism https://www.vrc.crim.cam.ac.uk/events/relationship-conspiracy-beliefs-and-violent-extremism-zoom-webinar Terrorism and conspiracy theories: A view from the 3N model of radicalization https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352250X22001154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, transam said: Facts may hurt in your case......... This coming from someone who rails at links. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Just now, placeholder said: Truly a bizarre comment. Do you believe that the world gets all or most of its news from aseannow.com? Or that the decisions of the moderators about what stories to post represents a statistically sound example of world news? Or is just that case that the only source of news for you is aseannow.com? It would be quite a good indication of how much interest the World took in the Yemen starvation . The reality is that there was very little concern about the genuine famine in Yemen and the World didn't care . Were there any mass marches in cities around the World protesting against the genocide in Yemen ? I don't recall hearing about any . If it was Israel bombing Yemen and causing mass starvation , the World would erupt in anger . Not Israel bombing, so not bothered about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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