Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Roo Island]

14 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

I wish to GAWD you people would stop referring to "Biden's DOJ." It is not his, it is an autonomous body. You are confusing this with the convicted criminal's intent to weaponize the DOJ to attack his personal enemies. He has stated this again and again.

 

Please try to keep the facts straight.

 

They are just parroting what dodgy media outlets and dodgy politicians say. Terrible what members of the GOP are saying. Trying to discredit the judicial system

[HappyExpat57]

12 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

and Trump is still odds on favorite to win and is consistently outperforming Biden 24/7 on polls that that matter to the American voter. Try to explain that. And while you're at it, count how many wars took place from 2017 to 2021. And then explain why Biden is trying to wage lawfare against his political superior in Trump and jail him for book keeping entries. Explain that so it makes sense to democracy loving Americans and not people like yourself who hate losing to Trump. What happened to the SPR under Biden! How about illegal and unconstitutional student loan handouts. Thats Biden's desperate vote buying schemes because he's getting walloped by the felon now and his campaign is about finished. 

Yeah, and Hillary was odds on favorite to beat the guy before he was a convicted felon. Polls don't mean a thing until November.

[Presto]

20 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Completely different situations. Biden didn't lie about it and try to cover it up. Even getting employees involved and now in big trouble.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-trump-classified-documents-trumps-alleged-obstruction-led/story?id=107079663

 

Why Biden and Trump's classified documents cases aren't the same: Experts

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Biden take classified documents to his house to help write a biography, to make money?

[frank83628]

55 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Fact.

 

A Capitol Police release the day after the riots said that USCP Officer Brian Sicknick “passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.” The report stated that Sicknick “was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed.”

so, no law enforcement officers died at the capital. 

[HappyExpat57]

1 minute ago, Presto said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Biden take classified documents to his house to help write a biography, to make money?

No, those are just lies to deflect from the convicted felon whole INTENTIONALLY stole dozens and dozens of boxes of highly classified documents then tried to cover up. We don't know why the convicted felon did this yet, but it is clear that he does everything with transactional motives. To say he was planning to sell them would not be a stretch of the imagination.

[candide]

8 minutes ago, Presto said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Biden take classified documents to his house to help write a biography, to make money?

His (paper) notebooks.

Note that there is no classified information in the book, which is about Beau Biden. So he did not make money with classified information.

Edited June 2 by candide

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

 It was a little humour with a basis of truth - who cares if he had a porn star? What we must care about is that this will be overturned at the SC, but long after the election, it is classic electoral interference. 

I don’t know whether or not you were following any reliable reporting of his trial, but the only time Convicted Felon Trump woke up long enough to pay any attention to the proceedings was when Stormy Daniels was giving her testimony.

 

Convicted Felon Trump certainly care about the ‘porn star’ telling her account of him ‘having’ her.

 

You’re being rather presumptive on the matter of the SC, perhaps you think their might be some bias toward the Convicted Felon Trump.

 

With the national flag flown upside down at their homes and the wives of SC Justices themselves involved in the Convicted Felon Trump’s insurrection, you might be correct. 
 

But then again do the SC want to even get involved?

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No, those are just lies to deflect from the convicted felon whole INTENTIONALLY stole dozens and dozens of boxes of highly classified documents then tried to cover up. We don't know why the convicted felon did this yet, but it is clear that he does everything with transactional motives. To say he was planning to sell them would not be a stretch of the imagination.

are you sure on that, 

 

 

Edited June 2 by frank83628

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

and it wasnt Trumps either, but he you claim Trump intended to weaponise the doj, but Biden hasnt? jusat like Biden didnt take showers with his daughter

Trump did weaponize the DOJ.

 

The unlawful imprisonment of Michael Cohen for having the temerity to execute his 1st Amendment right to write a book, albeit critical of Convicted Felon Trump.

[Presto]

5 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

No, those are just lies to deflect from the convicted felon whole INTENTIONALLY stole dozens and dozens of boxes of highly classified documents then tried to cover up. We don't know why the convicted felon did this yet, but it is clear that he does everything with transactional motives. To say he was planning to sell them would not be a stretch of the imagination.

'to say he was planning to sell them ...' 

Yes, I know that. Apparently Garland didn't know it.

I'm talking about Biden if you don't mind. As far as I know he took classified documents to his house, and used at least part of them to help the ghostwriter with the biography. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

are you sure on that, 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Presto said:

'to say he was planning to sell them ...' 

Yes, I know that. Apparently Garland didn't know it.

I'm talking about Biden if you don't mind. As far as I know he took classified documents to his house, and used at least part of them to help the ghostwriter with the biography. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

His (paper) notebooks.

There is no classified information in the book, which is about Beau Biden. So he did not make money with classified information.

[Presto]

1 minute ago, candide said:

 

His (paper) notebooks.

There is no classified information in the book, which is about Beau Biden. So he did not make money with classified information.

I'm not sure about that. This is AP:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ghostwriter-mark-zwonitzer-classified-documents-case-8ad6e560c2eb54e25db149a2d01ad545

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump did weaponize the DOJ.

 

The unlawful imprisonment of Michael Cohen for having the temerity to execute his 1st Amendment right to write a book, albeit critical of Convicted Felon Trump.

you know that writing 'convicted felon' does not bother me and i am guessing nobody that supports Trump... where as you guys get all frothy mouthed at Biden being called creepy, sniffy, sleepy amongst others

[HappyExpat57]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

and it wasnt Trumps either, but he you claim Trump intended to weaponise the doj, but Biden hasnt? jusat like Biden didnt take showers with his daughter

You are confusing facts to fit your warped narrative, classic red herring. Yes, Biden reportedly showered with his daughter which I personally find wildly inappropriate. Yes, the convicted felon has said dozens of times he plans to use the government to target political enemies. The two have NOTHING to do with each other.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-has-threatened-dozens-of-times-to-use-the-government-to-target-political-enemies/

[shipwrecked]

24 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Yeah, and Hillary was odds on favorite to beat the guy before he was a convicted felon. Polls don't mean a thing until November.

How about this one where Americans feel Trump policies helped them while Biden's hurt them.

 

 

Find me a poll stating the inverse.

 

Trump delivered for the country, Biden obviously failed and has become so desperate now that they really think their SDNY show trial abomination will somehow convince voters to abandon Trump. The exact opposite effect may take place and seal the fate for the feckless democrats on election day 2024. 

 

NY Times/ Siena Poll

Edited June 2 by shipwrecked

[candide]

10 minutes ago, Presto said:

I'm not sure about that. This is AP:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ghostwriter-mark-zwonitzer-classified-documents-case-8ad6e560c2eb54e25db149a2d01ad545

It says what I wrote:

"Hur’s report says Biden saved notebooks from his time as vice president that contained classified information and used them to help Zwonitzer put together his memoir — sometimes reading from them verbatim for more than hour at a time."

 

Hur's report also states that there is no classified information in the book.

Edited June 2 by candide

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

You are confusing facts to fit your warped narrative, classic red herring. Yes, Biden reportedly showered with his daughter which I personally find wildly inappropriate. Yes, the convicted felon has said dozens of times he plans to use the government to target political enemies. The two have NOTHING to do with each other.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-has-threatened-dozens-of-times-to-use-the-government-to-target-political-enemies/

just as Biden /Dems have done to Trump, . this conviction is prof of that. the last one for the loans is another example. what goes around comes around. i look forward to it

[Roo Island]

24 minutes ago, Presto said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Biden take classified documents to his house to help write a biography, to make money?

I don't know. Just know that when he found out he had them, he returned them. Unlike Trump. And, the special counsel didn't charge him. Makes sense

[Roo Island]

21 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so, no law enforcement officers died at the capital. 

So if you are in an accident and seriously injured but die a few days later, it wasn't because of the accident? Seriously?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

just as Biden /Dems have done to Trump, . this conviction is prof of that. the last one for the loans is another example. what goes around comes around. i look forward to it

Let’s have your evidence that Biden had any part in the prosecution of Convicted Felon Trump.

[Roo Island]

17 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

are you sure on that, 

 

 

Link or remove the post

[HappyExpat57]

7 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

How about this one where Americans feel Trump policies helped them while Biden's hurt them.

 

 

Find me a poll stating the inverse.

 

Trump delivered for the country, Biden obviously failed and has become so desperate now that they really think their SDNY show trial abomination will somehow convince voters to abandon Trump. The exact opposite effect may take place and seal the fate for the feckless democrats on election day 2024. 

 

NY Times/ Siena Poll

More blah blah blah. I can whip up as many polls that counter yours If I want, but it's a waste of time. November is the only important poll.

[HappyExpat57]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

just as Biden /Dems have done to Trump, . this conviction is prof of that. the last one for the loans is another example. what goes around comes around. i look forward to it

Let’s have your evidence that Biden had any part in the prosecution of Convicted Felon Trump.

 

No evidence available cuz it didn't happen. Those are facts.

[Roo Island]

9 minutes ago, shipwrecked said:

How about this one where Americans feel Trump policies helped them while Biden's hurt them.

 

 

Find me a poll stating the inverse.

 

Trump delivered for the country, Biden obviously failed and has become so desperate now that they really think their SDNY show trial abomination will somehow convince voters to abandon Trump. The exact opposite effect may take place and seal the fate for the feckless democrats on election day 2024. 

 

NY Times/ Siena Poll

Not sure I trust the intelligence level of those being polled.

[Presto]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

It says what I wrote:

"Hur’s report says Biden saved notebooks from his time as vice president that contained classified information and used them to help Zwonitzer put together his memoir — sometimes reading from them verbatim for more than hour at a time."

 

So where are there classified information in his book?

I get it. I've read the whole AP article. It leaves me with the feeling that it's all quite murky.

Above all, it leaves me with the feeling that Biden felt entitled. And that's not different today.

[Roo Island]

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

just as Biden /Dems have done to Trump, . this conviction is prof of that. the last one for the loans is another example. what goes around comes around. i look forward to it

Put up one link proving Biden threatened Trump with his powers or the DOJ.

[Presto]

12 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

I don't know. Just know that when he found out he had them, he returned them. Unlike Trump. And, the special counsel didn't charge him. Makes sense

Special counsel didn't charge him for many reasons.

I just think that people like Biden feel entitled to do what they want with classified documents. And that's a bad attitude, in my book. His lame excuses about the Corvette and all that were so telling. The arrogance.

Edited June 2 by Presto

[frank83628]

Just now, Roo Island said:

Put up one link proving Biden threatened Trump with his powers or the DOJ.

the proof is the there for all to see, look at the court cases and charges! 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Link or remove the post

For once, It's accurate. He used its notebooks (It's kind of useful for a biographical book) which apparently contained some classified information among other information), and he may have been negligent when reading the content of his notebooks.

However, no classified I formation was published in the book, so Biden did not make money with classified information.

[Roo Island]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/us/politics/william-barr-attorney-general.html

 

 

President Trump said on Monday that Attorney General William P. Barr would depart next week, ending a tenure marked by Mr. Barr’s willingness to advance the president’s political agenda and by criticism that he eroded the post-Watergate independence of the Justice Department.