Thailand Refuses To Sign Document Of The Swiss 'Peace' Summit

[BobBKK]

1 minute ago, Woof999 said:

 

Africa is a nation?

 

Did the large ones have a stronger vote than the others? In that case China and India can pretty much vote in whatever they want. Were you in a Friends episode, "The One With The Muppet" ?

 You  are very dim - the majority of planet earths citizens are not allied to your USA as you think. As for insults why do it?

[rattlesnake]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Fear of reprisals, prison, opposition leader killed, yeh, he won alright....🤣

 

US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-intelligence-believes-putin-probably-didnt-order-navalny-be-killed-wsj-2024-04-27/

[Woof999]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

You  are very dim - the majority of planet earths citizens are not allied to your USA as you think.

 

My USA? You know little to nothing about me and this proves it.

 

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

As for insults why do it?

 

I guess I was taking your lead. Read your replies in this thread. Exactly what are you trying to achieve?

[transam]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-intelligence-believes-putin-probably-didnt-order-navalny-be-killed-wsj-2024-04-27/

Really, put in a place to freeze to death, not a home arrest.........😂

[BobBKK]

3 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

My USA? You know little to nothing about me and this proves it.

 

 

I guess I was taking your lead. Read your replies in this thread. Exactly what are you trying to achieve?

Truth - which you seem not to care about. An honest debate that includes the ability to think outside of the CNN/MSNBC narrative.

[Woof999]

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

CNN/MSNBC

 

Sorry Bob, don't watch either of them. Not rt.com either.

[BobBKK]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

And why didn't folk vote for another, are you that stupid.............😂

 

 77% TURNOUT - they could have stayed at home OR spoiled their paper OR voted for the Communist. I happen to know Russians broadly support Putin - I would say around 80/85%.

Please understand that, whatever your view, you cannot beat Russia. A poor peace is better than a good war.

[Woof999]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

Please understand that, whatever your view, you cannot beat Russia. A poor peace is better than a good war.

 

Now you're starting to reveal your reality. It's not about right and wrong, or choices, it's about toeing the line with the bully or else.

 

Foxtrot oscar to that.

[steven100]

I give this thread about 6 hours ....  

[BobBKK]

5 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

Now you're starting to reveal your reality. It's not about right and wrong, or choices, it's about toeing the line with the bully or else.

 

Foxtrot oscar to that.

 We can agree on that. Please support resistance to the USA bullying worldwide. It didn't work in Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, nor will it be in Ukraine and I appreciate your recognition of that fact.

[Woof999]

3 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 We can agree on that. Please support resistance to the USA bullying worldwide. It didn't work in Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, nor will it be in Ukraine and I appreciate your recognition of that fact.

 

I'm not American, haven't visited there in more than a decade and have no plans to return.

 

If you think that that me or most others that despise what Putin is doing just because America told me to then none of your points will ever have much validity. In fact, jog on.

[bob smith]

Slava Ukraini! 

 

bob.

[advancebooking]

3 hours ago, Brewster67 said:

Well done Thailand for refusing to sign the document of the outcome of the comical 'so called' 'Peace' summit in Lucerne, Switzerland...

 

They obviously were not going to be fooled that this comical collection of western leaders and low grade civil servants had any intention towards 'peace'.

 

In fact at no time whatsoever was there any attempt to discuss 'peace'... In fact it was nothing more than a staged platform for OUTGOING western leaders of the so-called free world to stand up on stage and criticise and threaten President Putin and Russia. It was also used as an excuse for the most corrupt politician on earth to continue to beg for money so he can buy more luxury multi-million dollar properties worldwide while he feeds his male (and female) population into a meat grinder for the benefit of creepy hair sniffing Joe Biden and Co.

 

So well done to Thailand for having principles and all those other countries who were not for one minute fooled.

 

 

Are you russian?

[Brewster67]

35 minutes ago, transam said:

And why didn't folk vote for another, are you that stupid.............😂

 

Well when you look deeper at what Putin has achieved for the Russian people in 2 decades then you might start to understand why he is so popular.... When he took over, Russia was a complete basket case lying drunk on the floor while the west was picking her pockets.

 

Putin stopped all that and he has achieved an economic miracle that has lifted most of the population out of poverty and put Russia squarely on her feet.

 

What country can say that about their leaders?..... Rishi Sunak who nobody voted for?.... Joe Biden the senile?.... Olaf Sholz who sat back and let the USA blow up his eesential pipeline?.... Macron the little Napoleon who is about to wiped out og the national Assembly?.... Ursula Von Der Lyon who can't string two sentences together?

 

The west is run by idiots and incompetents and populated by morons who keep them in office..... So it is no wonder Putin gets the vote from his people.

[Woof999]

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Well when you look deeper at what Putin has achieved for the Russian people in 2 decades then you might start to understand why he is so popular

 

You mean like giving away a significant portion of the national resource pot of gold to a handful of "the chosen ones" to create the Oligarchs?

 

...and taking an even bigger pot for himself?

[Brewster67]

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You listen to too much propaganda.

 

Nazi regime? What are you smoking?

 

You are totally ignorant of the facts comrade Brewsteranov

Strange how just about EVERY western media organisation ran multiple reports about the Nazi problem in Ukraine until they were told to make Ukraine the heroes..... Azov Battalion, Right Sector, C14,  Ethnic National Union, Homo Ethnicus, Denic Kapustin, Misanthropic Division, Social National Assembly, Social National Party of Ukraine, Wolfsangel to name but a few who seig heil there way around in their jackboots tatooed with German Nazi insignia.... Western Ukraine fought with the Nazis in WW2, the so-called 'father of Ukraine' Steppan Bandera was a fricken died-in-the-wool NAZI  who is honoured all over Ukraine with statues and even roads and buildings named after him.... Guess where all these organisations get their funding?..... Yup, the US State dept, The British foreign Office and the EU Commission.... Why?.... that answer is simple, because if you want to use a country as a proxy, you need to get into bed with the most extremist elements just like they do with Al Qaeda and ISIS who strangely seem to fight all of the west's enemies, and don't try to tell me you are also ignorant about THAT.

Edited June 17 by Brewster67

[bubblegum]

Delusional post. Do these people really exist outside of the US?

[Brewster67]

14 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

You mean like giving away a significant portion of the national resource pot of gold to a handful of "the chosen ones" to create the Oligarchs?

 

...and taking an even bigger pot for himself?

He gave the Oligarchs NOTHING..... Do you even know where the oligarchery came from???..... It came from the collapse of the USSR in 1991 when all those state owned factories and warehouses and industries became vacant and armed gangs started to mobilize and walk into them claiming ownership..... That happened for 9 years before Putin was even elected.... What was the first thing Putin did when he came to office?..... He had the lot of them rounded up and thrown into prison where he let them stew for a few weeks without even knowing what they had done wrong, then one by one he had them marched into his office and told them he was demanding half of everything or back to prison they go.... EVERY one of them signed. All that was put into government ownership for the people.... but hey, I guess you have been successfully propagandised by the western media.

Edited June 17 by Brewster67

[Woof999]

4 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

He gave the Oligarchs NOTHING..... Do you even know where the oligarchery came from???..... It came from the collapse of the USSR in 1991 when all those state owned factories and warehouses and industried became vacant and armed gangs started to mobilize and walk into them claiming ownership..... That happened for 9 years before Putin was even elected.... What was the first thing Putin did when he came to office?..... He had the lot of them rounded up and thrown into prison where he let them stew for a few weeks without even knowing what they had done wrong, then one by one he had them marched into his office and told them he was demanding half of everything or back to prison they go.... EVERY one of them signed. All that was put into government ownership for the people.... but hey, I guess you have been successfully propagandised by the western media.

 

Right, so if Putin is so very much for the people and is almost universally loved by the people, why is there a need to almost totally suppress any political opposition? Why is there any need for the massive (even more than the US) censorship of foreign media?

[Brewster67]

10 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

Right, so if Putin is so very much for the people and is almost universally loved by the people, why is there a need to almost totally suppress any political opposition? Why is there any need for the massive (even more than the US) censorship of foreign media?

There is no suppression of political opposition you complete dorkus.

 

Give me an example???.... I bet you can't.... ALL Russian elections are overseen by representitives of scores of global election observers sent in by countries all over the world, but strangely western countrties NEVER send any.. I wonder why???.... The US even thretened sanctions of observers if they dared go to the Russian election.

 

So I am waiting for you to name a 'so called' opponent that was suppressed.

 

Don't even fricken try to name Navalny.... The ONLY opposition to Putin would be the communist Party of Russia who achieve just about 10% in an election which is hardly any threat to Putin's party and everyone else gets single figures.

 

So while you are great at quopting the BBC and all the other western fake media, you are going to have to work incredibly hard to enter into discourse with someone like me who is incredibly well studied in this particular subject matter, and if you really do want to mention Navalny, let me warn you I can go into granular detail about his entire political achievements.

Edited June 17 by Brewster67

[Woof999]

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Don't even fricken try to name Navalny.

 

Gotya, so I can't include the one that proves the point. There's little point in him suppressing other parties that can't get their act together and will likely never construct a meaningful opposition.

 

You didn't answer the bit about the censorship of foreign media. While I'm at it, why were the people that were peacefully protesting about the war (sorry, special military operation) summarily rounded up? Is this the free Russia that you love, where people are voting for the man that doesn't give them much of a meaningful choice? Are you free to protest about the war in the middle of Red Square without any threat of repercussion?

 

[Brewster67]

14 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

Gotya, so I can't include the one that proves the point. There's little point in him suppressing other parties that can't get their act together and will likely never construct a meaningful opposition.

 

You didn't answer the bit about the censorship of foreign media. While I'm at it, why were the people that were peacefully protesting about the war (sorry, special military operation) summarily rounded up? Is this the free Russia that you love, where people are voting for the man that doesn't give them much of a meaningful choice? Are you free to protest about the war in the middle of Red Square without any threat of repercussion?

 

I warned you about this didn't I...

 

Navalny didn't even get 1% of the vote when he stood in elections against Putin... In fact his best ever political vote count was when he stood for mayor of Moscow where he achieved a startling 5% of the vote.... Not quite the required amount for victory... Western media banged on about how Putin put him in prison to stop him standing... What they failed to tell you is that Navalny and his brother embezzled over 150,000 Euros from a french cosmetics company called Yves Rocher, they were also found guilty of money laundering and even then he was given bail which he skipped and fled to Germany where he was hospitalised with suspected novachok poisoning which was all bull because for the world's most toxic nerve agent, it never seems to ever kill anyone (see Skrippals affair) where 3 people in the UK also survived contact with it but hey... It made great propaganda for idiots out there with low IQ.

 

As for censorship of the media.... It was western mendia that censored themselves... The Russian parliament the State Duma created a law stating it illegal for ALL journalists in Russia to report FAKE NEWS about the Rusian military and the Special Military Operation.... So ALL western journalists packed their bags and left for the airport which was very telling in that their number one function was to create FAKE NEWS..... So by running away they basically self-censored opting instead to sit in an office in London and making it all up as they go along.

 

Which by the way are almost certainly the same FAKE NEWS journalists you have gained your education from.

Edited June 17 by Brewster67

[frank83628]

54 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Well when you look deeper at what Putin has achieved for the Russian people in 2 decades then you might start to understand why he is so popular.... When he took over, Russia was a complete basket case lying drunk on the floor while the west was picking her pockets.

 

Putin stopped all that and he has achieved an economic miracle that has lifted most of the population out of poverty and put Russia squarely on her feet.

 

What country can say that about their leaders?..... Rishi Sunak who nobody voted for?.... Joe Biden the senile?.... Olaf Sholz who sat back and let the USA blow up his eesential pipeline?.... Macron the little Napoleon who is about to wiped out og the national Assembly?.... Ursula Von Der Lyon who can't string two sentences together?

 

The west is run by idiots and incompetents and populated by morons who keep them in office..... So it is no wonder Putin gets the vote from his people.

great reply, but totally wasted on that clow...dude!

[billd766]

4 hours ago, Brewster67 said:

Well done Thailand for refusing to sign the document of the outcome of the comical 'so called' 'Peace' summit in Lucerne, Switzerland...

 

They obviously were not going to be fooled that this comical collection of western leaders and low grade civil servants had any intention towards 'peace'.

 

In fact at no time whatsoever was there any attempt to discuss 'peace'... In fact it was nothing more than a staged platform for OUTGOING western leaders of the so-called free world to stand up on stage and criticise and threaten President Putin and Russia. It was also used as an excuse for the most corrupt politician on earth to continue to beg for money so he can buy more luxury multi-million dollar properties worldwide while he feeds his male (and female) population into a meat grinder for the benefit of creepy hair sniffing Joe Biden and Co.

 

So well done to Thailand for having principles and all those other countries who were not for one minute fooled.

 

 

So you personally attended the conference and were there all day, every day, understood everything that went on and everything that was said. Is that correct?

 

You then concluded that all the countries who signed the document were wrong and only the countries that did not sign were right. Is that correct?

 

(in your words) "In fact at no time whatsoever was there any attempt to discuss 'peace'... In fact it was nothing more than a staged platform for OUTGOING western leaders of the so-called free world to stand up on stage and criticise and threaten President Putin and Russia". Is that correct?

 

Even though (in my words), Putin and Russia had already invaded the Ukraine and previously annexed Crimea and the Donbass region?

In my eyes and probably that  of many other people, I am probably correct

 

You then came to the conclusion that Zelensky  was only after money to (in your words)

"It was also used as an excuse for the most corrupt politician on earth to continue to beg for money so he can buy more luxury multi-million dollar properties worldwide while he feeds his male (and female) population into a meat grinder for the benefit of creepy hair sniffing Joe Biden and Co". Is that correct?

 

You managed to say all that (apart from my bit) without a single link or any shred of proof.

 

I am almost, but not really impressed.

 

 

[Woof999]

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

I warned you about this didn't I...

 

Well I'm nothing if not gullible.

 

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Navalny didn't even get 1% of the vote when he stood in elections against Putin..

 

So who poisoned him and to what end?

 

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

The Russian parliament the State Duma created a law stating it illegal for ALL journalists in Russia to report FAKE NEWS about the Rusian military and the Special Military Operation...

 

...who decides if it's fake or not? Can't the people decide for themselves?

[Woof999]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

great reply, but totally wasted on that clow...dude!

 

Actually he's scoring some good points and I like to learn, which is why I'm asking questions. Your reply is rather lacking, perhaps you can learn too.

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

 

Actually he's scoring some good points and I like to learn, which is why I'm asking questions. Your reply is rather lacking, perhaps you can learn too.

perhaps you should question the media you watch more often too, or search of others to get a different perspective.

[Keep Right]

Have Russian trolls infiltrated this forum? Seems that way.

[Brewster67]

1 minute ago, Keep Right said:

Have Russian trolls infiltrated this forum? Seems that way.

How do you define a troll?.... Amyone who isn't gullible enough to believe your world view of things??

 

I'm right, aint I.....

[Woof999]

35 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Navalny didn't even get 1% of the vote when he stood in elections against Putin... In fact his best ever political vote count was when he stood for mayor of Moscow where he achieved a startling 5% of the vote.... Not quite the required amount for victory...

 

Just fact checking this. What and when was the election that Navalny stood head to head with Putin in where he achieved <1% of the vote (was that the best he achieved in a comparable election), and are you sure about the 5% figure in the Moscow mayoral election?