Violence Erupts Outside LA Synagogue Amid Clashes & Attacks on Jews

[Social Media]

 

Los Angeles witnessed a violent confrontation outside the Adas Torah synagogue on Sunday morning as anti-Israel protesters clashed with supporters of Israel. The incident, which unfolded on Pico Boulevard, has sparked outrage and concerns about rising antisemitism and public safety in the city.

 

The violence erupted before noon when two groups—one supporting Israel and the other protesting against it—converged in front of the synagogue. Video footage from the scene captured chaotic moments where individuals from both sides engaged in physical altercations. Many protesters wore keffiyehs and masks, while those supporting Israel were draped in Israeli flags. In one particularly distressing video, a woman can be seen lying in the fetal position on the ground as others tried to break up the crowd.

 

 

Police officers in riot gear quickly surrounded the perimeter, but it remains unclear whether any arrests were made or the extent of the injuries sustained during the clashes. Aerial footage showed the heavy police presence, underscoring the severity of the situation. A man holding a Palestinian flag was seen physically fighting with a visibly Jewish man in another video, further highlighting the intense confrontations.

 

Accusations flew from both sides about who initiated the violence. Anti-Israel activist groups and Jewish community members shared videos on social media, each blaming the other for the escalation. Jewish community members posted videos showing Jews being beaten on the ground by members of the anti-Israel mob. Journalist Daniel Greenfield, present at the rally, reported multiple instances of Jewish community members being sprayed with bear mace and pepper spray without any police intervention. He noted that some protesters appeared prepared for violence, wearing ski goggles as protection. Greenfield also recounted being threatened by a man in a keffiyeh who allegedly said, "Billions will come to kill you."

 

In response to the violence, LA Mayor Karen Bass condemned the actions and promised additional police patrols in the heavily Jewish neighborhood. She stated, "Today’s violence in the Pico-Robertson neighborhood was abhorrent, and blocking access to a place of worship is unacceptable. I want to be clear that Los Angeles will not be a harbor for antisemitism and violence. Those responsible for either will be found and held accountable."

 

Journalist Cam Higby, who was hit by bear mace, shared his experience on social media, thanking local rabbis, off-duty emergency medical technicians, and community members who assisted him despite not knowing his identity or beliefs. He expressed his shock at the violence, saying, "People who aren’t antisemitic don’t show up to a synagogue in a Jewish neighborhood with bear spray and other weapons to fight people. Reviewing footage of Jews being pushed down and beaten bloody in the street just outside of a synagogue in a Jewish neighborhood—all I can think of is when I learned about the night of broken glass."

 

Activist and politician Sam Yerbi described the situation as "violent anti-Israel activists dispersed into Jewish neighborhoods hunting Jews and causing more destruction and vandalism." Yerbi shared a video on Instagram showing a man in a keffiyeh threatening residents with two bludgeons retrieved from his car. He also posted footage of community members intervening to stop vandalism of a kosher restaurant.

 

Criticism of the LAPD and Mayor Bass was widespread. Greenfield accused the LAPD of allowing anti-Israel activists to occupy both sides of the synagogue, providing only a small access lane for community members. He claimed that when police in riot gear arrived, they did not separate the two sides for an hour. Political consultant Noah Pollak said on social media that he and his family were denied access to the synagogue because the LAPD had formed a cordon to "keep Jews out and Hamas supporters in." Yerbi alleged that elected officials had told the LAPD to stand down and not intervene, an accusation Pollak echoed, accusing officials of helping "the Democratic Party street animals do their thuggery."

 

Security at the site was provided by LA Shmira Public Safety and Magen Am volunteers, who coordinated with the LAPD, the Shul Guard Network, the LA Jewish Federation's Community Security Initiative, and other Jewish public safety groups. Despite these efforts, Greenfield criticized the Jewish community leadership for failing to organize effectively. He stated, "Some community leaders urged people not to go to avoid giving the terrorist supporters publicity, others came but in an unorganized fashion. While leftists are able to throw together antisemitic rallies at short notice, the Jewish community has failed to prep and the result is that terrorist supporters were able to freely operate in the heart of the Pico-Robertson Jewish community and to intimidate a synagogue."

 

The delayed response from California politicians further fueled the community's frustration. It took hours before statements were issued condemning the violence. California Governor Gavin Newsom eventually said on social media, "The violent clashes outside the Adas Torah synagogue in Los Angeles are appalling. There is no excuse for targeting a house of worship. Such antisemitic hatred has no place in California." Congressman Ted Lieu also condemned the targeting of the synagogue, stating, "I strongly condemn the Pro-Palestinian demonstrators who engaged in anti-Semitism by targeting Adas Torah Synagogue and/or its congregants."

 

Councilwoman Katy Yaroslavsky expressed deep concern over the incident, noting that her upcoming meeting with Mayor Bass, the Jewish Federation, and the LAPD would explore why the situation had escalated. "The antisemitic violence that broke out today in Pico Robertson would have been completely unacceptable anywhere in Los Angeles, but that it was planned and carried out in front of a synagogue in the heart of LA’s Jewish community should be deeply concerning to us all," Yaroslavsky said.

 

The protests were organized by groups like Code Pink and the Party for Socialism and Liberation, allegedly in response to the sale of "stolen Palestinian land." Advertisement for the real estate event did not specify the areas being sold. PYM LA declared, "Racist settler expansionists are not welcome in Los Angeles! This blatant example of land theft is operating in our own backyard. The Nakba is ongoing and must be confronted!" A Code Pink video showed protesters chanting for intifada as the "only solution."

 

Anti-Israel activists claimed they had peacefully protested and were attacked by pro-Israel counter-protesters and police. Code Pink stated on Instagram, "Madness, chaos, agitation, provoking and the use of physical force by the Zionist community and LAPD. While our comrades were physically assaulted, pepper/bear sprayed and attacked as they walked back to their cars, LAPD did nothing to keep us safe but rather pushed and used their combat toys to add to injury."

 

The Party for Socialism and Liberation Los Angeles posted videos showing activists being pushed by police and grappling with counter-protesters. In one clash, protesters and counter-protesters fought over an Israeli flag. One Muslim woman was spat on and pelted with an egg when she refused to let go of the flag, and the fight was broken up when an activist sprayed the group with mace. Another video published by community group Sot El Zaytoon showed a pro-Israel man body-checking a Muslim woman, who was then punched to the ground by an anti-Israel activist.

 

A similar protest organized by Code Pink had taken place outside the Shaarey Zedek congregation on Thursday, highlighting the ongoing tension and conflict in the area. The International March of the Living (IML), a Holocaust education organization, responded to the clashes and other recent antisemitic incidents worldwide. In a statement, IML said, "The attack on the 'Adas Torah' synagogue in Los Angeles and the targeting of Jews there, as well as the attacks on synagogues in Russia, the shocking rape of a Jewish girl in France last week, and the daily threats to Jews worldwide, all lead to one grim conclusion: Jewish blood is cheap. These attacks are all attempts to intimidate and push Jews out of the public sphere—a phenomenon we know all too well from history. We call on the authorities in countries across the world to come to their senses quickly because Jewish blood is being shed with impunity."

 

 

Credit: JP | X 2024-06-25

 

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[Yagoda]

Wouldnt happen in Texas

[Bkk Brian]

He needs to get on top of this, stamping it out before it spreads even further

 

President Joe Biden ‘appalled’ by violence during pro-Palestinian protest at Los Angeles synagogue

“I’m appalled by the scenes outside of Adas Torah synagogue in Los Angeles,” Biden said in post on social media site X. “Intimidating Jewish congregants is dangerous, unconscionable, antisemitic, and un-American.”

In a statement, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said the violence was “abhorrent” and that blocking access to a place of worship was unacceptable.

Bass said she asked the Los Angeles Police Department to provide additional patrols in Pico-Robertson and outside houses of worship citywide.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-los-angeles-synagogue-protest-cc997c3116d12f159df138a0ba9be002

 

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1805278915201487142

 

[Cryingdick]

It does make you wonder when the feds will step in and begin to use hate crimes, just like the south when they had to step in to save blacks because local officials were too corrupt to enforce the laws. 

[koolkarl]

The minions have infiltrated western countries and this is one result.  Unless the migration is stopped, I do believe it will get much worse. 

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Los Angeles witnessed a violent confrontation outside the Adas Torah synagogue on Sunday morning as anti-Israel protesters clashed with supporters of Israel. The incident, which unfolded on Pico Boulevard, has sparked outrage and concerns about rising antisemitism and public safety in the city.

 

The violence erupted before noon when two groups—one supporting Israel and the other protesting against it—converged in front of the synagogue. Video footage from the scene captured chaotic moments where individuals from both sides engaged in physical altercations. Many protesters wore keffiyehs and masks, while those supporting Israel were draped in Israeli flags. In one particularly distressing video, a woman can be seen lying in the fetal position on the ground as others tried to break up the crowd.

 

 

Police officers in riot gear quickly surrounded the perimeter, but it remains unclear whether any arrests were made or the extent of the injuries sustained during the clashes. Aerial footage showed the heavy police presence, underscoring the severity of the situation. A man holding a Palestinian flag was seen physically fighting with a visibly Jewish man in another video, further highlighting the intense confrontations.

 

Accusations flew from both sides about who initiated the violence. Anti-Israel activist groups and Jewish community members shared videos on social media, each blaming the other for the escalation. Jewish community members posted videos showing Jews being beaten on the ground by members of the anti-Israel mob. Journalist Daniel Greenfield, present at the rally, reported multiple instances of Jewish community members being sprayed with bear mace and pepper spray without any police intervention. He noted that some protesters appeared prepared for violence, wearing ski goggles as protection. Greenfield also recounted being threatened by a man in a keffiyeh who allegedly said, "Billions will come to kill you."

 

In response to the violence, LA Mayor Karen Bass condemned the actions and promised additional police patrols in the heavily Jewish neighborhood. She stated, "Today’s violence in the Pico-Robertson neighborhood was abhorrent, and blocking access to a place of worship is unacceptable. I want to be clear that Los Angeles will not be a harbor for antisemitism and violence. Those responsible for either will be found and held accountable."

 

Journalist Cam Higby, who was hit by bear mace, shared his experience on social media, thanking local rabbis, off-duty emergency medical technicians, and community members who assisted him despite not knowing his identity or beliefs. He expressed his shock at the violence, saying, "People who aren’t antisemitic don’t show up to a synagogue in a Jewish neighborhood with bear spray and other weapons to fight people. Reviewing footage of Jews being pushed down and beaten bloody in the street just outside of a synagogue in a Jewish neighborhood—all I can think of is when I learned about the night of broken glass."

 

Activist and politician Sam Yerbi described the situation as "violent anti-Israel activists dispersed into Jewish neighborhoods hunting Jews and causing more destruction and vandalism." Yerbi shared a video on Instagram showing a man in a keffiyeh threatening residents with two bludgeons retrieved from his car. He also posted footage of community members intervening to stop vandalism of a kosher restaurant.

 

Criticism of the LAPD and Mayor Bass was widespread. Greenfield accused the LAPD of allowing anti-Israel activists to occupy both sides of the synagogue, providing only a small access lane for community members. He claimed that when police in riot gear arrived, they did not separate the two sides for an hour. Political consultant Noah Pollak said on social media that he and his family were denied access to the synagogue because the LAPD had formed a cordon to "keep Jews out and Hamas supporters in." Yerbi alleged that elected officials had told the LAPD to stand down and not intervene, an accusation Pollak echoed, accusing officials of helping "the Democratic Party street animals do their thuggery."

 

Security at the site was provided by LA Shmira Public Safety and Magen Am volunteers, who coordinated with the LAPD, the Shul Guard Network, the LA Jewish Federation's Community Security Initiative, and other Jewish public safety groups. Despite these efforts, Greenfield criticized the Jewish community leadership for failing to organize effectively. He stated, "Some community leaders urged people not to go to avoid giving the terrorist supporters publicity, others came but in an unorganized fashion. While leftists are able to throw together antisemitic rallies at short notice, the Jewish community has failed to prep and the result is that terrorist supporters were able to freely operate in the heart of the Pico-Robertson Jewish community and to intimidate a synagogue."

 

The delayed response from California politicians further fueled the community's frustration. It took hours before statements were issued condemning the violence. California Governor Gavin Newsom eventually said on social media, "The violent clashes outside the Adas Torah synagogue in Los Angeles are appalling. There is no excuse for targeting a house of worship. Such antisemitic hatred has no place in California." Congressman Ted Lieu also condemned the targeting of the synagogue, stating, "I strongly condemn the Pro-Palestinian demonstrators who engaged in anti-Semitism by targeting Adas Torah Synagogue and/or its congregants."

 

Councilwoman Katy Yaroslavsky expressed deep concern over the incident, noting that her upcoming meeting with Mayor Bass, the Jewish Federation, and the LAPD would explore why the situation had escalated. "The antisemitic violence that broke out today in Pico Robertson would have been completely unacceptable anywhere in Los Angeles, but that it was planned and carried out in front of a synagogue in the heart of LA’s Jewish community should be deeply concerning to us all," Yaroslavsky said.

 

The protests were organized by groups like Code Pink and the Party for Socialism and Liberation, allegedly in response to the sale of "stolen Palestinian land." Advertisement for the real estate event did not specify the areas being sold. PYM LA declared, "Racist settler expansionists are not welcome in Los Angeles! This blatant example of land theft is operating in our own backyard. The Nakba is ongoing and must be confronted!" A Code Pink video showed protesters chanting for intifada as the "only solution."

 

Anti-Israel activists claimed they had peacefully protested and were attacked by pro-Israel counter-protesters and police. Code Pink stated on Instagram, "Madness, chaos, agitation, provoking and the use of physical force by the Zionist community and LAPD. While our comrades were physically assaulted, pepper/bear sprayed and attacked as they walked back to their cars, LAPD did nothing to keep us safe but rather pushed and used their combat toys to add to injury."

 

The Party for Socialism and Liberation Los Angeles posted videos showing activists being pushed by police and grappling with counter-protesters. In one clash, protesters and counter-protesters fought over an Israeli flag. One Muslim woman was spat on and pelted with an egg when she refused to let go of the flag, and the fight was broken up when an activist sprayed the group with mace. Another video published by community group Sot El Zaytoon showed a pro-Israel man body-checking a Muslim woman, who was then punched to the ground by an anti-Israel activist.

 

A similar protest organized by Code Pink had taken place outside the Shaarey Zedek congregation on Thursday, highlighting the ongoing tension and conflict in the area. The International March of the Living (IML), a Holocaust education organization, responded to the clashes and other recent antisemitic incidents worldwide. In a statement, IML said, "The attack on the 'Adas Torah' synagogue in Los Angeles and the targeting of Jews there, as well as the attacks on synagogues in Russia, the shocking rape of a Jewish girl in France last week, and the daily threats to Jews worldwide, all lead to one grim conclusion: Jewish blood is cheap. These attacks are all attempts to intimidate and push Jews out of the public sphere—a phenomenon we know all too well from history. We call on the authorities in countries across the world to come to their senses quickly because Jewish blood is being shed with impunity."

 

 

Credit: JP | X 2024-06-25

 

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Again this article mixed "anti-israel" and "antisemite".

"Pro-Palestine" doesn't mean mean to be "antisemite" or "anti-zionist". But it's media mainstream to follow the narrative of many govts round the (Western) world.🙏

 

[JonnyF]

When you import immigrants, you often import the intolerant, homophobic, misogynistic, anti-semtic attitudes that come with them and are entirely unsuitable for Western societies. 

 

Biden needs to get control of this before it spirals. Or before the likes of Dianne Abbott emerge from their hole to assure us this happens to ginger people as well.

[RichardColeman]

More evidence that Joe Buden has been an absolutely pathetic and useless president. You may not like Trump but least his presidency was somewhat more sane. Vote Red : Put Biden to Bed !!

[Hanaguma]

57 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Again this article mixed "anti-israel" and "antisemite".

"Pro-Palestine" doesn't mean mean to be "antisemite" or "anti-zionist". But it's media mainstream to follow the narrative of many govts round the (Western) world.🙏

 

How many of the scumbag protesters do you think would allow Jews to live in their version of Palestine? Or would condemn Hamas for their part in the violence in Gaza... sorry, their bias is obvious.  Anyone who is actually Pro-Palestine would also be completely against any part of Palestine being ruled by misogynistic terrorists.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Again this article mixed "anti-israel" and "antisemite".

"Pro-Palestine" doesn't mean mean to be "antisemite" or "anti-zionist". But it's media mainstream to follow the narrative of many govts round the (Western) world.🙏

 

Using threats of violence, and then actual violence to prevent a congregation from going to their synagogue seems rather anti Semitic to me.

[John Drake]

Members of the Biden coalition fighting each other in the streets. 

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

It does make you wonder when the feds will step in and begin to use hate crimes, just like the south when they had to step in to save blacks because local officials were too corrupt to enforce the laws. 

Feds have been investigating hate crimes and sure this no exception. Meanwhile hate crimes law increasing penalties for some crimes fuel by race, gender or sexual orientation are running out of time to get what could be a decisive vote in South Carolina. Republican Senate Majority leader Shane Massey simply said “ don’t hold your breathe”. 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fbi-director-says-probes-of-anti-jewish-hate-crimes-tripled-in-months-after-oct-7/

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

How many of the scumbag protesters do you think would allow Jews to live in their version of Palestine? Or would condemn Hamas for their part in the violence in Gaza... sorry, their bias is obvious.  Anyone who is actually Pro-Palestine would also be completely against any part of Palestine being ruled by misogynistic terrorists.

I don't agree. That's too simple. 

Those who demonstrate for Palestine want to live in peace. Same in Israel. 

The solution is always a compromise: UN peace troops and International supervised government 

[Hanaguma]

22 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I don't agree. That's too simple. 

Those who demonstrate for Palestine want to live in peace. Same in Israel. 

The solution is always a compromise: UN peace troops and International supervised government 

If they arent anti semitic, then why demonstate in front of a SYNAGOGUE?!? That is a Jewish building, not an Israeli one. AFAIK, Israel does not sponsor synagagoues. IF the protesters were anti-Israel, they should have protested in front of the Israeli consualate. I think they really showed their true feelings.

 

Palestine won't have peace until the terrorists who are in charge are removed. Yet I never hear any of the pro side also asking for the removal of the PA and Hamas... wonder why?

[mokwit]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

If they arent anti semitic, then why demonstate in front of a SYNAGOGUE?!? That is a Jewish building, not an Israeli one. AFAIK, Israel does not sponsor synagagoues. IF the protesters were anti-Israel, they should have protested in front of the Israeli consualate. I think they really showed their true feelings.

 

According to the story there was some kind of real estate event taking place in the Synagogue and there was a belief that plots of Palestinian land were being sold there. Of course that couldn't be true, could it?

 

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

The protests were organized by groups like Code Pink and the Party for Socialism and Liberation, allegedly in response to the sale of "stolen Palestinian land." Advertisement for the real estate event did not specify the areas being sold.

 

[Hanaguma]

8 minutes ago, mokwit said:

According to the story there was some kind of real estate event taking place in the Synagogue and there was a belief that plots of Palestinian land were being sold there. Of course that couldn't be true, could it?

 

 

Ah yes, the 'greedy Jew' trope.  Seems to reinforce the anti semitic reasoning for the riot.

 

Not to mention, there is something strange about showing up at a "peaceful" protest with weapons like bear or pepper spray etc.

[newbee2022]

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

If they arent anti semitic, then why demonstate in front of a SYNAGOGUE?!? That is a Jewish building, not an Israeli one. AFAIK, Israel does not sponsor synagagoues. IF the protesters were anti-Israel, they should have protested in front of the Israeli consualate. I think they really showed their true feelings.

 

Palestine won't have peace until the terrorists who are in charge are removed. Yet I never hear any of the pro side also asking for the removal of the PA and Hamas... wonder why?

"Palestine won't have peace until the terrorists who are in charge are removed"

 

That's an illusion.

For any killed Hamas fighter there will be created new ones, eg their sons or daughters or wifes or any other surviving relatives.

There was not any war won by killing. There were always peace talks.

The Gaza war will have no winners.

[300sd]

10 minutes ago, mokwit said:

According to the story there was some kind of real estate event taking place in the Synagogue and there was a belief that plots of Palestinian land were being sold there. Of course that couldn't be true, could it?

 

 

Right let's all run out and buy some cheap real estate huh.  So the title of this article is: Violence Erupts Outside LA Synagogue Amid Clashes & Attacks on Jews. That's not ok in my book. What about yours?

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

"Palestine won't have peace until the terrorists who are in charge are removed"

 

That's an illusion.

For any killed Hamas fighter there will be created new ones, eg their sons or daughters or wifes or any other surviving relatives.

There was not any war won by killing. There were always peace talks.

The Gaza war will have no winners.

Yeah, just like what happened after WW2 when all the Nazis were killed. Their kids and spouses all became Nazis and Germany remained in thrall of the Third Reich.  Try again.

[newbee2022]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, just like what happened after WW2 when all the Nazis were killed. Their kids and spouses all became Nazis and Germany remained in thrall of the Third Reich.  Try again.

Well, why not go back history to times of Romans and Persians????

That's ridiculous and not expedient.

Obviously you don't know the history of Israel and apparently don't know much about Germany's.

To make it understandable for you:

Israel occupied illegally Palestine. (forced by the Brits. "Israel" was British the protectorate). 

Nobody internationally cared about the people who lived there = Palestinians.

The burden with the Jews were solved. They got their own state.

And, with European origin, they behaved as a superior race and oppressed the Palestinians who tried to keep parts of their land and fight against illegal occupation.

Israel illegally occupied the Golan Heights and the Westbank to secure their borders.

Look what happened some decades ago: The Brits were  kicked out of Kenya, or India, or South Africa or Rhodesia. Many examples.

I think Palestinians have a right to live in their own territory)state with respected border. And peace.🙏

 

[Gaccha]

22 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah yes, the 'greedy Jew' trope.  Seems to reinforce the anti semitic reasoning for the riot.

 

At the land sale meeting at the synagogue, one piece of land was in the illegally occupied West Bank. This is a remarkable provocation.

 

Assisting in the occupation of territory illegally occupied under international law and doing so, so brazenly in a time of war, where Israel has destroyed vast swathes of Gaza, is truly bad taste.

 

But more important than bad taste, Israeli civilians in the West Bank are occupiers, and it is part of Israeli military policy to use Israeli citizens to assist in the occupation. This means they can be designated as military targets.

 

Obviously synagogues, in contrast to churches, are more like community halls rather than simply places of worship*. So a land sale meeting there is not particularly surprising. 

 

 

*For the less sharp readers among you, of course I recognise that synagogues have worship in them.

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, why not go back history to times of Romans and Persians????

That's ridiculous and not expedient.

Obviously you don't know the history of Israel and apparently don't know much about Germany's.

To make it understandable for you:

Israel occupied illegally Palestine. (forced by the Brits. "Israel" was British the protectorate). 

Nobody internationally cared about the people who lived there = Palestinians.

The burden with the Jews were solved. They got their own state.

And, with European origin, they behaved as a superior race and oppressed the Palestinians who tried to keep parts of their land and fight against illegal occupation.

Israel illegally occupied the Golan Heights and the Westbank to secure their borders.

Look what happened some decades ago: The Brits were  kicked out of Kenya, or India, or South Africa or Rhodesia. Many examples.

I think Palestinians have a right to live in their own territory)state with respected border. And peace.🙏

 

Nice shift of the goalposts.

 

You were asserting that terrorists can't be 'killed' into not existing because their ideas will permeate into the next generation and so on. I provided a real world example of where that did not happen. You ignored it and instead wrote a long laundry list of talking points that had nothing to do with your original point.

 

Classic tactic. I'll give you a "B-".

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

 

At the land sale meeting at the synagogue, one piece of land was in the illegally occupied West Bank. This is a remarkable provocation.

 

Assisting in the occupation of territory illegally occupied under international law and doing so, so brazenly in a time of war, where Israel has destroyed vast swathes of Gaza, is truly bad taste.

 

But more important than bad taste, Israeli civilians in the West Bank are occupiers, and it is part of Israeli military policy to use Israeli citizens to assist in the occupation. This means they can be designated as military targets.

 

Obviously synagogues, in contrast to churches, are more like community halls rather than simply places of worship*. So a land sale meeting there is not particularly surprising. 

 

 

*For the less sharp readers among you, of course I recognise that synagogues have worship in them.

Do you have any evidence of this land sale? I looked for it and didn't find any. 

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Nice shift of the goalposts.

 

You were asserting that terrorists can't be 'killed' into not existing because their ideas will permeate into the next generation and so on. I provided a real world example of where that did not happen. You ignored it and instead wrote a long laundry list of talking points that had nothing to do with your original point.

 

Classic tactic. I'll give you a "B-".

At least I could give you some extra lessons in history. You don't need to say "Thank you". I'm happy to fill your gaps.🙏

[Hanaguma]

10 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, why not go back history to times of Romans and Persians????

That's ridiculous and not expedient.

Obviously you don't know the history of Israel and apparently don't know much about Germany's.

To make it understandable for you:

Israel occupied illegally Palestine. (forced by the Brits. "Israel" was British the protectorate). 

Nobody internationally cared about the people who lived there = Palestinians.

The burden with the Jews were solved. They got their own state.

And, with European origin, they behaved as a superior race and oppressed the Palestinians who tried to keep parts of their land and fight against illegal occupation.

Israel illegally occupied the Golan Heights and the Westbank to secure their borders.

Look what happened some decades ago: The Brits were  kicked out of Kenya, or India, or South Africa or Rhodesia. Many examples.

I think Palestinians have a right to live in their own territory)state with respected border. And peace.🙏

 

Lovely, except only about 1/3 of Jews in Israel are European in origin. And Jews have lived there for 4000 years. And "Palestinian" is a construct of the pervert Arafat in the 1960s. And there are 22 Arab states for Arabs to move to if they don't like Israel.

 

What border do YOU think a Palestinian state should have?

[newbee2022]

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You were asserting that terrorists can't be 'killed' into not existing

Following this absurd route it would mean to kill ALL Palestinians??

You would have to say YES, because how would you identify the terrorists??? As far as I know they don't have a sticker on their shirts saying " I'm a terrorist".

Could you follow how silly it is?😳

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

At least I could give you some extra lessons in history. You don't need to say "Thank you". I'm happy to fill your gaps.🙏

...and you still cannot answer why, IF Germany could be ne-Nazified, then why cannot Gaza be de-Hamasified? Both are similar repugnant and racist ideologies that permeated their regions for many years.

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Following this absurd route it would mean to kill ALL Palestinians??

You would have to say YES, because how would you identify the terrorists??? As far as I know they don't have a sticker on their shirts saying " I'm a terrorist".

Could you follow how silly it is?😳

Person holding a weapon- terrorist.

Person holding hostages- terrorist.

Person aiding and hiding terrorists- possible terrorist, depending on the circumstances.

Person hiding terrorist weapons and so on, see above.

 

Not so hard.

[newbee2022]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Lovely, except only about 1/3 of Jews in Israel are European in origin. And Jews have lived there for 4000 years. And "Palestinian" is a construct of the pervert Arafat in the 1960s. And there are 22 Arab states for Arabs to move to if they don't like Israel.

 

What border do YOU think a Palestinian state should have?

That's wrong.

4000 years ago there was no country Israel. This was founded by settlement of European Jews after/end WW2 provided by Brits . Sure, not all Arabs left their own land but tried to live in peace with the new Masters. 

And this situation is incomparable with Nazi-Germany. You need extra lessons on this subject??🥴

[herfiehandbag]

47 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

"Palestine won't have peace until the terrorists who are in charge are removed"

 

That's an illusion.

For any killed Hamas fighter there will be created new ones, eg their sons or daughters or wifes or any other surviving relatives.

There was not any war won by killing. There were always peace talks.

The Gaza war will have no winners.

1945 - no peace talks.