On 6/27/2024 at 9:53 AM, Srikcir said:

And during the confrontation the owner had NO key to enter the condo?

It isn't a condo, it is a hotel room.

Most places can be locked from the inside!

On 6/27/2024 at 9:53 AM, Srikcir said:

But what visa violation did he commit when there was no police arrest - overstay, passport/visa fraud?

Criminal trespass and likely a few others. 

On 6/27/2024 at 11:34 AM, NowNow said:

 

Has he been accused of behaving improperly? Let us assume that he has paid for his room. If so, then he hasn't stolen the key. She can always give him a refund of what he has paid, but she cannot ask him to leave whilst keeping his payment.

Ex-boyfriend perhaps? Otherwise it's a bit strange that she addresses him by a short form of his first name.

 

He didn't so the whole post is conjecture and simply off target. 

On 6/27/2024 at 12:25 PM, Keeps said:

Perhaps he had a night out on the sauce and lost his key. Staggered back drunk, saw a spare key hanging up behind reception for his room number. Maybe the nighttime 'security' asleep/drunk. Helped himself to the key and slept it off?

 

Maybe that's her problem? Nobody knows with the information provided in the original story.

 

Probably more to this than first meets the eye, maybe?

Where on earth is all this conjecture coming from? He had not paid for the room, and it is reported he stole the key and refused to leave when asked and locked hotel staff out of the room. The only report we can go by is that in the OP. 

Is this some insane 'falang can do no wrong, blame the Thai' perspective!

On 6/27/2024 at 1:05 PM, Freddy42OZ said:

 

 

My understanding from the story is he paid to stay there for a period of time, then when he left he stole the key so he could return and access the room for free to get extra nights without paying. 

Presumably he knew the place is not busy and the room would be vacant upon his return. 

Quite how he checked out without handing back the key is an unanswered question.



 

It does not say anywhere he checked out and kept his key.. simply he stole a key, likely on his return. It would be unusual here, fail to return  the key on checkout, (not a keycard), and they will take the deposit or insist on a payment.

20 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

Grow up 😊

I am grown... it is he and you who should grow up and open your minds to the fact that bad behavior is wrong and has consequences... mommy can't always be there for you... 555

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Criminal trespass and likely a few others. 

Exactly. It does not matter if he “payed for the room”, stole a key, misbehaved , or even acted perfectly while causing no nuisance at all to other guests . 
 

The moment this aggressor refused to vacate the premises when ordered by management, he became trespasser. A criminal, in material breach of the Thai law. Clearly subject to the prosecutions and punishments outlined by language prescribed within the criminal code.  
 

 

 

6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

He didn't so the whole post is conjecture and simply off target. 

 

We were discussing the prepaid scenario. You don't have to get yourself all riled up over a hypothesis 😊

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

Exactly. It does not matter if he “payed for the room”, stole a key, misbehaved , or even acted perfectly while causing no nuisance at all to other guests . 
 

The moment this aggressor refused to vacate the premises when ordered by management, he became trespasser. A criminal, in material breach of the Thai law. Clearly subject to the prosecutions and punishments outlined by language prescribed within the criminal code.  
 

 

 

 

Wrong. Your post is just ludicrous. 😊 That is why there is the process of eviction, according to law. You are just a pretender. Pretending to understand the law that you quote. 

6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

I am grown... it is he and you who should grow up and open your minds to the fact that bad behavior is wrong and has consequences... mommy can't always be there for you... 555

 

Or perhaps you shouldn't get 'triggered' by what you see on social media. 😊 I prefer to hear both sides before getting overly excited.

16 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

Or perhaps you shouldn't get 'triggered' by what you see on social media. 😊 I prefer to hear both sides before getting overly excited.

Actually I wasn't triggered... I merely commented that whatever his belief or reality is... the real world has laws which support the owner asking him to leave and he broke the law by refusing and locking himself in the hotel's room.

17 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

We were discussing the prepaid scenario. You don't have to get yourself all riled up over a hypothesis 😊

It just seems to be a waste of time and muddies the waters of reality. 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

It just seems to be a waste of time and muddies the waters of reality. 

 

You have no idea as to the reality 😙 Only the rantings of a mad woman.

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Actually I wasn't triggered... I merely commented that whatever his belief or reality is... the real world has laws which support the owner asking him to leave and he broke the law by refusing and locking himself in the hotel's room.

 

Nope, again, there is a process. Likely why the police didn't turn up in the first place.

3 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Nope, again, there is a process. Likely why the police didn't turn up in the first place.

Now who's guessing at the facts as reported in the OP???   55555

Just now, Skipalongcassidy said:

Now who's guessing at the facts as reported in the OP???   55555

 

I happily admit that it's an educated guess. Distinct from the uneducated guess from others, like yourself. 😊

22 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

You have no idea as to the reality 😙 Only the rantings of a mad woman.

One has to accept the only evidence available and witness statement(s). To ignore them completely and start making up silly scenarios serves no purpose except to give fools a mouthpiece. 

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

One has to accept the only evidence available and witness statement(s). To ignore them completely and start making up silly scenarios serves no purpose except to give fools a mouthpiece. 

That would be quite contrary to over half of the opinionators who post on this forum... it would be a fool's folly to try.

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

One has to accept the only evidence available and witness statement(s). To ignore them completely and start making up silly scenarios serves no purpose except to give fools a mouthpiece. 

 

Some of us think the fools are the ones who rant about something they read on on the Internet...without really knowing anything at all.

It seems to bother you that I choose to not swallow the story 'hook, line and sinker' 😊

I choose to believe there is more to the story. I'm am privy to information on quite a few stories here that aren't quite as reported. You won't see me ranting about this and that from something posted on someone's social media website. 😊 Enjoy your day. Try to not get triggered by everything that you read on here.

4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

That would be quite contrary to over half of the opinionators who post on this forum... it would be a fool's folly to try.

 

It's also foolish to swallow any story here 'hook, line and sinker'. You are welcome to accept what is written. But don't cry if not everyone agrees with you. Be a man and accept that others may have a different point of view.

Pattaya- international rubbish dump. 

On 6/30/2024 at 1:38 PM, NowNow said:

 

Wrong. Your post is just ludicrous. 😊 That is why there is the process of eviction, according to law. You are just a pretender. Pretending to understand the law that you quote. 

I wont pretend to not be baffled that someonr conflates checking in to a Thai lodging establishment with the leasehold interest as if one rented an apartment or condo. One reason why there is a Hotel Act.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 1:38 PM, NowNow said:

 

Wrong. Your post is just ludicrous. 😊 That is why there is the process of eviction, according to law. You are just a pretender. Pretending to understand the law that you quote. 

The "process of eviction" come on man get your noodle in gear how do you dream up this dullardry?

 

It was just some Farnag blatantly violating the criminal code  while tresspassing in a cheap looking Thai hotel not council tenancy in Barnsley. Eviction process likely whatever a man with a badge says it is. Or some toughs from the taxi rank.  In this case the BiB could not be bothered.

How come the key was in a place that he could get it? Where is the security of such items?

18 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

I wont pretend to not be baffled that someonr conflates checking in to a Thai lodging establishment with the leasehold interest as if one rented an apartment or condo. One reason why there is a Hotel Act.

 

The "process of eviction" come on man get your noodle in gear how do you dream up this dullardry?

 

It was just some Farnag blatantly violating the criminal code  while tresspassing in a cheap looking Thai hotel not council tenancy in Barnsley. Eviction process likely whatever a man with a badge says it is. Or some toughs from the taxi rank.  In this case the BiB could not be bothered.

 

Farnag? Get yourself together man. Come back when you have composed yourself.

You are writing absolute rubbish! Man with a badge...

13 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

How come the key was in a place that he could get it? Where is the security of such items?

 

The story of course is incomplete. That doesn't stop the keyboard warriors here ^^ from writing about badges and thugs. 😊

21 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

How come the key was in a place that he could get it? Where is the security of such items?

Remember these things>? I have not seen one in years. Maybe cheap hotels bungalows and guesthouses still use them . Often they were hanging on a wall behind the reception area or in some numbered cubby holes.

 

Very easy for a crim or nutter to pilfer while even momentarily unattended.

18 hours ago, NowNow said:

 

It's also foolish to swallow any story here 'hook, line and sinker'. You are welcome to accept what is written. But don't cry if not everyone agrees with you. Be a man and accept that others may have a different point of view.

You are way off base... but I accept that not everyone is smart enough to garner facts and that some just talk to hear themselves... keep up the good work and get back to me with the facts on this case ok.

19 hours ago, NowNow said:

Some of us think the fools are the ones who rant about something they read on on the Internet...without really knowing anything at all.

Go away you silly troll.......don't waste your time replying.

20 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Remember these things>? I have not seen one in years. Maybe cheap hotels bungalows and guesthouses still use them . Often they were hanging on a wall behind the reception area or in some numbered cubby holes.

 

Very easy for a crim or nutter to pilfer while even momentarily unattended.

True but usually there is someone at reception. Obviously no one was in attendance on this occasion.