Biden Vows to Return for Second Debate Against Trump Despite Disastrous Performance

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, candide said:

I don't disagree. However, I was discussing about the economic performance, not how it may be perceived.

Factually the U.S. performance is good and other developped countries would be happy to enjoy the same performance. How it is perceived is another story.

 

The US has many of the best companies in the world. Apple, Amazon, Microsoft. Without these companies the country would be stuffed.

[candide]

38 minutes ago, susanlea said:

GDP means nothing to poor or working class. Inflation is high, job losses total 2.4m in 12 months, border mess. 

 

34 minutes ago, susanlea said:

UK inflation 2%

USA 3.4%

 

Fail for Biden sorry

Assertions without any source and date. Where are the links to your sources, where are your tables?

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Thanks for identifying yourself.  Clearly a mensa candidate.

You mean Mensa?

[candide]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

The US has many of the best companies in the world. Apple, Amazon, Microsoft. Without these companies the country would be stuffed.

So when It's not good, It's Biden's fault, and when It's good, It's not because of his policies! 555!😅

[susanlea]

Just now, candide said:

So when It's not good, It's Biden's fault, and when It's good, It's not because of his policies! 555!😅

Strange response. Who built these companies Einstein? Wasn't Biden 

[Hawaiian]

2 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Thanks for identifying yourself.  Clearly a mensa candidate.

Wrong assumption on your part about my financial status.  Thanks for not reading previous posts. 

[stoner]

8 minutes ago, susanlea said:

What has Biden won?

 

the 2020 election ? 

[Cryingdick]

16 minutes ago, susanlea said:

The US has many of the best companies in the world. Apple, Amazon, Microsoft. Without these companies the country would be stuffed.

You mean that profits are the mother's milk of the market and Biden isn't the reason Jensen Huang and Nvidia along with 5 other companies have driven the entire market the past year? 

 

The good news is if you are some average slob that blindly puts money into index funds you made out well. Although the recent highs aren't much better after four years and have been recently revisited. The $175,000 you had now turned into nearly $250,000. Unfortunately that is worth around the same in today's money if not less.

 

 

Edited June 29 by Cryingdick

[superal]

I have sympathy for the American public because last night's performance by Biden was embarrassing . Like it or not , Biden is not only the president of the USA but also the leader of the free world and  at the helm they have a man who is clearly past his sale by date . I am not discriminating against Biden because of his age but because of his obvious mental frailties . How could Biden possibly see out another 5 year term in office . It is a position that affects global peace and demands important decisions and reactions . If Biden or his wife have any sense , Biden should step aside now for the sake of the American people and the free world .

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

His post debate rallies were strong and full of vigour.

 

vigor may not be the best word to associate with biden at the moment. 

[LosLobo]

Observing the behavior of many Trump supporters here is intriguing, especially those who seem incapable of engaging in a logical debate or discussion that adheres to the established rules and true spirit of debate, such as upholding the burdens of proof and avoiding common logical fallacies like ad hominem attacks, yet are quick to criticize Biden's capabilities.

 

It's disheartening to see some mock his speech impediment, considering the most popular POTUS of all time, FDR, also had a disability. It raises the question of whether they would also encourage their children or grandchildren to ridicule those who use wheelchairs.

 

In the debate, the narrative perpetuated by right-wing media that questions Biden's mental acuity seemed to be confirmed on Thursday, which may have left many undecided voters confused.

 

This faux pas of the Democrats will inadvertently lend credence to other conspiracy theories and misinformation spread by Fox and similar outlets.

 

It may be time for the Democrats to initiate damage control and consider a more viable candidate, someone akin to Gavin Newsom, to restore confidence.

If Trump is ever elected leader of the free world again, I suggest that there is a significant chance that his undemocratic, fascist contagion could spread even more globally, with scenarios reminiscent of Hitler's Third Reich not being out of the question.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Strange response. Who built these companies Einstein? Wasn't Biden 

Strange response! They are subject to the same trends as the others.

In which year under Trump did the U.S. enjoy around 8 times the growth of the Eurozone and 15 times the UK growth! (See the table I posted before), in the same U.S. with the same powerful companies? 😃

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

vigor may not be the best word to associate with biden at the moment. 

 

more rigor for the vigor, more mortace for the political mortis? 

[Lacessit]

14 minutes ago, susanlea said:

4 years of whining from Biden sooks.

4 years of stability, compared to the chaos of Trump's presidency.

 

Are you so stupid you don't realize a dozen business bankruptcies, two civil judgments of over $500 million, one felony conviction, with 50-odd criminal indictments yet to come, makes Trump totally unfit to lead a country?

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

yet are quick to criticize Biden's capabilities.

 

i have been criticizing bidens capabilities for quite some time now. nothing personal it is what it is.

 

 

Edited June 29 by stoner

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

A dead body would have had more charisma than Biden had during that debate. 

A dead body would make a better president than Trump. 

 

Edited June 29 by Jingthing

[Fat is a type of crazy]

10 minutes ago, susanlea said:

The US has many of the best companies in the world. Apple, Amazon, Microsoft. Without these companies the country would be stuffed.

America has successful companies. If it didn't have successful companies it would be stuffed. Well now I know thanks. 

[Cryingdick]

 

 

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A dead body would make a better presdentvthan Trump. 

 

 

Then produce one that polls well. Simple. Next time make sure it is vaguely fresh.

Edited June 29 by Cryingdick

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Lacessit said:

4 years of stability, compared to the chaos of Trump's presidency.

 

Are you so stupid you don't realize a dozen business bankruptcies, two civil judgments of over $500 million, one felony conviction, with 50-odd criminal indictments yet to come, makes Trump totally unfit to lead a country?

IMO all politically motivated to try and stop him. If he hadn't tried to do so i doubt any of them would have eventuated. It's like the show trials in Russia. Anyway, they have just given him more support as people can see the charade for what it is.

 

4 years of stability,

LOL. You must live in an alternate reality if you think the last 3 years have been stable, Whoever wins it's likely to be more of the same.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, superal said:

I have sympathy for the American public because last night's performance by Biden was embarrassing . Like it or not , Biden is not only the president of the USA but also the leader of the free world and  at the helm they have a man who is clearly past his sale by date . I am not discriminating against Biden because of his age but because of his obvious mental frailties . How could Biden possibly see out another 5 year term in office . It is a position that affects global peace and demands important decisions and reactions . If Biden or his wife have any sense , Biden should step aside now for the sake of the American people and the free world .

I think a lot of people around Biden are saying that, but apparently he ain't listening.

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

If Trump is ever elected leader of the free world again, I suggest that there is a significant chance that his undemocratic, fascist contagion could spread even more globally, with scenarios reminiscent of Hitler's Third Reich not being out of the question.

If Trump is elected President again, America will withdraw into isolation, and leave the rest of the free world to fend for itself.

 

There is not another country that would trust anything he says.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If Trump is elected President again, America will withdraw into isolation, and leave the rest of the free world to fend for itself.

 

There is not another country that would trust anything he says.

 

Hopefully that eventuality might be making them prepare for it. Call us when you need us. Haartlijk grotes 

[susanlea]

15 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

America has successful companies. If it didn't have successful companies it would be stuffed. Well now I know thanks. 

Glad to fill you in. Most think Biden runs it all 

[susanlea]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO all politically motivated to try and stop him. If he hadn't tried to do so i doubt any of them would have eventuated. It's like the show trials in Russia. Anyway, they have just given him more support as people can see the charade for what it is.

 

4 years of stability,

LOL. You must live in an alternate reality if you think the last 3 years have been stable, Whoever wins it's likely to be more of the same.

Trump had

Secure borders

Low inflation

Low unemployment

 

But Biden fans don't live in the real world. T..

[Robert Paulson]

Folks, he got ushered off the stage and treated like a 4 year old by his obviously tone deaf wife. The his vp said he had a slow start. This is over folks. 

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO all politically motivated to try and stop him. If he hadn't tried to do so i doubt any of them would have eventuated. It's like the show trials in Russia. Anyway, they have just given him more support as people can see the charade for what it is.

 

4 years of stability,

LOL. You must live in an alternate reality if you think the last 3 years have been stable, Whoever wins it's likely to be more of the same.

If you prefer a legal system that is based on who is in power at the time, I suggest you go and live in China or Russia.

 

Actually, the political motivations in America consist of Cannon slow-walking the most serious case, and the Supreme Court taking their sweet time in considering a BS claim of immunity.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

If you prefer a legal system that is based on who is in power at the time, I suggest you go and live in China or Russia.

 

Actually, the political motivations in America consist of Cannon slow-walking the most serious case, and the Supreme Court taking their sweet time in considering a BS claim of immunity.

You don't even live in America. Get off your soapbox.

[CharlieKo]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A dead body would make a better president than Trump. 

 

So you'll be voting for Biden then?

[candide]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO all politically motivated to try and stop him. If he hadn't tried to do so i doubt any of them would have eventuated. It's like the show trials in Russia. Anyway, they have just given him more support as people can see the charade for what it is.

 

4 years of stability,

LOL. You must live in an alternate reality if you think the last 3 years have been stable, Whoever wins it's likely to be more of the same.

And Trump did not do what he did! 😀

I also heard Trump actually won the 2020 election! 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, CharlieKo said:

So you'll be voting for Biden then?

Look at the people defending Biden . It was a train wreck.