One Killed, Many Injured in Yala Car Bomb Attack

[Sig]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

They just let these people continue, year after year. We all know what religion they are connected to. Tim to stop the peace talks, and go into action. They know where they are and where they operate from. Just raid the places and stuff the jails with these animals.

The problem in El Salvador was a bit different, but what you recommend worked there like a charm! It's amazing the turn around that has come about in that country since they took drastic measures and stuffed their jails and brought their country about to look nothing like it did for many many years. But their leadership was blasted by the UN and all of the usual suspects - the same old mantra, "human rights!" for these criminals that were destroying their society. Well... these leaders didn't quit and they succeeded. I don't think there's the same kind of capacity to do that here. It takes intelligence and wisdom. Oops... those guys who led that change in El Salvador were religious and they prayed together as they moved forward transforming their country... uh oh... that'll burst some bubbles too.... lol
btw, I'm not saying there were no problems, but in comparison to an entire nation living in fear and being about the worst nation for violence in the entire world, and becoming one of the best practically over night... you can't do that without some problems, but the cost needs to be weighed.
I'm with you on the problems in the south. Root them out ceaselessly, one by one, day by day, if that's what it takes.

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 minutes ago, Mangkhut said:

The biggest massacre and terror in the deep south in the last 50 years was done by the government themselves killing 85 persons - with Thaksin at the helm….

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tak_Bai_incident

 

Not that I defend any kinds of terror or. massacre btw.

This was an accident, not a massacre. 

 

Your comment should be removed. 

 

[Peterphuket]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

If you allow it to become Malaysia, They'll just creep further north, wanting more and more provinces. 

 

That is a wrong assumption, only the southernmost part of thailand belonged to Malaysia more than 100 years ago.
I don't see when the orriginal part is returned, Malaysia claims more later.

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

This heinous act underscores the urgent need for sustainable peace and security measures in Thailand's southern provinces.

Or is it the decades forced occupation of an Muslim sovereign state under constant ISOC State of Emergency?

This statement might be labeled "Z".

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, Kinok Farang said:

For fxxks sake grow up.We all know the religion that routinely carry out these acts of barbarism.

The Russian Greek Orthodox Church?

The Christian Crusades?

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Sure like a pie graph of religious violence this century. Pretty sure the biggest piece - maybe 99% - would be the religious hatred of islam. 

No you are wrong.

Over a million dead Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan bombed by the American led Christians.

Under 50,000 Christian’s killed by Muslims. 

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

...don't tell me afterwards that people who commit this kind of act practice a religion that preaches love of others, peace and humanity...

Buddhists?

[Ctkong]

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

no it's just normal Islam. Does a Muslim minority ever peaceful coexist or does it seek to dominate the infidels?

First Muslims regard non Muslims as infidels . Then they dehumanize the non Muslims. Once done, they do not treat others 

as humans thus the atrocities and violence. 

[Ctkong]

11 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Buddhists?

No. A practicing Buddhist or religious person of any faith will kill or approve of it. 
Spiritually once we evolved, we are all the same inside regardless of faith. 
Those committing atrocities are doing it in the name of religions to suit their agendas. 

[ujayujay]

Only stupid people think that this has something to do with religion and do not know the history of the southern provinces of Thailand. These attacks are always primarily related to the separatist claims of a part of the Malaysian population there and secondly to the control of the drug trade by this minority. But that seems to be intellectually beyond the capabilities of some here🤪

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

They just let these people continue, year after year. We all know what religion they are connected to. Tim to stop the peace talks, and go into action. They know where they are and where they operate from. Just raid the places and stuff the jails with these animals.

Paraphrasing from https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/muslim-patani-longs-for-peace-freedom-in-thailand/1978644

Buddhist Kingdom of Siam took control of Muslim Kingdom of Patani's entire territory by force and divided it into Thai seven provinces. Thai ruler, King Chulalongkorn, broke the peace treaty with the provinces in 1901 and launched a military campaign. It ended in 1909 with the Anglo (aka Great Britain)-Siam treaty*, which paved the way for the Kingdom of Siam to annex the Muslim Sultanate into the southern region of Thailand. No referendum of the Muslim people. Very similar to the 2014 Russian invasion and occupation of Crimea including displacement of many Ukraine citizens with Russian citizens.

* Great Britain being motivated by a trade monopoly within the region in exchange for its treaty.

Prior to 1909 the Kingdom of Siam recognized the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Patani in exchange for tribute. Seems that wasn't enough for a colonizing Kingdom of Siam.

 

[proton]

Islamist terrorists, not 'insurgents' why try to sugar coat it?

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

...don't tell me afterwards that people who commit this kind of act practice a religion that preaches love of others, peace and humanity...

And I won't even bother tell you how many of the Christian religion who commit this kind of act practice a religion that preaches love of others, peace and humanity, have done and still do the same things as this.

 

Serbia springs to mind as do many other countries, including Israel and Russia most recently.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, renaissanc said:

Stupid, brain-dead terrorists! They still haven't worked out after decades that blowing up people, buildings, roads, and vehicles hasn't helped their cause one little bit. They are such stupid people.

Are they terrorists or are they freedom fighters trying to maintain their own language and their own culture in the land that was stolen from their ancestors and given away to a 3rd country that has no interest in the people. language, culture and religion.

 

Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist, or a freedom fighter?

[Docno]

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The idiots killed one of their own. 

 

As they often do

[Docno]

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are they terrorists or are they freedom fighters trying to maintain their own language and their own culture in the land that was stolen from their ancestors and given away to a 3rd country that has no interest in the people. language, culture and religion.

 

Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist, or a freedom fighter?

Terrorism is the use of violence, targeting non-combatants, to serve political ends. The purpose is to drive policy change by creating terror in the general population. Targeting police is a grey area and would depend on the role the police play in projecting state power and policies. 

There was definitely a terror component to some of the actions taken by the paramilitary wing of the ANC, but the most clearly terroristic actions taken by the ANC (beach and bar bombings, for example), happened after Mandela was imprisoned. Even the ANC tried to distance itself from some of them. 

[Taboo2]

And?  The sun is shinning today.  Same story, different day and year.

 

Until Thailand goes old school style, this will continue forever.

 

[Taboo2]

19 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are they terrorists or are they freedom fighters trying to maintain their own language and their own culture in the land that was stolen from their ancestors and given away to a 3rd country that has no interest in the people. language, culture and religion.

 

Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist, or a freedom fighter?

Both!  He was too soft.  

[Docno]

26 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And I won't even bother tell you how many of the Christian religion who commit this kind of act practice a religion that preaches love of others, peace and humanity, have done and still do the same things as this.

 

Serbia springs to mind as do many other countries, including Israel and Russia most recently.

Yes, there are surely isolated examples of where predominantly Christian populations (Serbia, for example) target Muslim populations. But that's the exception more than the rule. You don't have Christian extremist groups targeting civilians across the world in a coordinated fashion. You don't have verses of the new testament exhorting people to kill unbelievers in the name of god. Christian-majority countries loudly condemned the atrocities that took place against Muslims during the Balkan wars ... they even sent in their own soldiers to (ineffectually) protect the Muslims. Do you see that happening when terrorism occurs in western nations? Not often.  

[Taboo2]

32 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And I won't even bother tell you how many of the Christian religion who commit this kind of act practice a religion that preaches love of others, peace and humanity, have done and still do the same things as this.

 

Serbia springs to mind as do many other countries, including Israel and Russia most recently.

And?  Humans are predators...so, these acts are not a surprise.  What is a surprise is that folks still believe in the Imaginary friend upstairs in the clouds and will do anything to ensure that their God is right and only they will be in Heaven.

 

Can't wait for AI to do some house cleaning on this planet.  Long overdue.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

For fxxks sake grow up.We all know the religion that routinely carry out these acts of barbarism.

In the past Christianity had a rather bad reputation, as did many other religions.

Now in modern times even here in Thailand as that's regarding the location of the post, more Thais are injured and murdered by Buddhist loving native people. 

[Docno]

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Paraphrasing from https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/muslim-patani-longs-for-peace-freedom-in-thailand/1978644

Buddhist Kingdom of Siam took control of Muslim Kingdom of Patani's entire territory by force and divided it into Thai seven provinces. Thai ruler, King Chulalongkorn, broke the peace treaty with the provinces in 1901 and launched a military campaign. It ended in 1909 with the Anglo (aka Great Britain)-Siam treaty*, which paved the way for the Kingdom of Siam to annex the Muslim Sultanate into the southern region of Thailand. No referendum of the Muslim people. Very similar to the 2014 Russian invasion and occupation of Crimea including displacement of many Ukraine citizens with Russian citizens.

* Great Britain being motivated by a trade monopoly within the region in exchange for its treaty.

Prior to 1909 the Kingdom of Siam recognized the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Patani in exchange for tribute. Seems that wasn't enough for a colonizing Kingdom of Siam.

 

"Buddhist Kingdom of Siam took control of Muslim Kingdom of Patani's entire territory by force and divided it into Thai seven provinces. " This carefully misses the year in which this happened: 1785. In other words, rightly or wrongly, Thailand has had possession of this area for 250 years. Now go look at a map of any part of the world from the late 1700s and note how different it looks from today. Should we all go back to the 18th century borders? Why even stop there? The Greeks would love to have Constantinople back. 

[MalcolmB]

11 minutes ago, Docno said:

You don't have Christian extremist groups targeting civilians across the world in a coordinated fashion.

Yes, it is called the US Armed Forces.

Killed way more civilians than any Muslim terrorist group have. 
 

 

[Docno]

1 hour ago, ujayujay said:

Only stupid people think that this has something to do with religion and do not know the history of the southern provinces of Thailand. These attacks are always primarily related to the separatist claims of a part of the Malaysian population there and secondly to the control of the drug trade by this minority. But that seems to be intellectually beyond the capabilities of some here🤪

You need to understand more about Islam (I've read the Quran three times, the hadith collection of Al Bukhari, and the sira/biography of Muhammad by al Hisham ... my wife is Muslim). You will then understand that in the orthodox Muslim view, the world is divided into two parts: the dar al-Islam (abode of Islam) dar al-harb (abode of war). And part of this thinking is that once land has become part of dar al-Islam any reversion to control by unbelievers must be fought until the end of time. In theory, Islam can only expand, and any contraction of the dar al-Islam demands never-ending resistance from believers. That, in part, explains what you are seeing.

[Docno]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Yes, it is called the US Armed Forces.

Killed way more civilians than any Muslim terrorist group have. 
 

 

Silly response. In what way do US armed forces project the interests and goals of Christianity? When was the last time the US tried to impose Christianity on a conquered state or even gave preferential treatment to Christian citizens of such a state? Did they try to impose Christianity on Afghanistan or Iraq? Does the US government treat Muslim citizens as being second-class? p.s. I'm not American.

[billd766]

29 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

And?  Humans are predators...so, these acts are not a surprise.  What is a surprise is that folks still believe in the Imaginary friend upstairs in the clouds and will do anything to ensure that their God is right and only they will be in Heaven.

 

Can't wait for AI to do some house cleaning on this planet.  Long overdue.

If I am of any religious persuasion at all then I am probably a modern pagan leaning towards Wicca and Druidism. All the rest are merely newcomers to religion.

[proton]

49 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are they terrorists or are they freedom fighters trying to maintain their own language and their own culture in the land that was stolen from their ancestors and given away to a 3rd country that has no interest in the people. language, culture and religion.

 

Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist, or a freedom fighter?

 

As Mandela used the same tactics of terror, including blowing up women and kids I would say he was a terrorist

[Docno]

2 hours ago, Mangkhut said:

The biggest massacre and terror in the deep south in the last 50 years was done by the government themselves killing 85 persons - with Thaksin at the helm….

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tak_Bai_incident

 

Not that I defend any kinds of terror or. massacre btw.

Yes, that was terrible. But it's easy to get caught up in the numbers game. For example, I can highlight the fact that 171 school teachers were murdered by separatists in a 10-year period at the start of this century. 85 stone-throwing protesters vs 171 teachers. Could go on and on. Also, the Tak Bai protesters were victims of criminal neglect and mistreatment but it's not clear that it was a case of first-degree murder (i.e., that the police intended for them to die); the teachers, on the other hand, were murdered in cold blood. 

[MalcolmB]

28 minutes ago, Docno said:

Silly response. In what way do US armed forces project the interests and goals of Christianity? .

When was the last time they attacked a Christian country?

Vietnam, Laos, Korea, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq 

 

George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq

 

Religion also surfaced as an issue when Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

 

Religious nutters must be stopped.

 

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, proton said:

As Mandela used the same tactics of terror, including blowing up women and kids I would say he was a terrorist

Just like Israel have been doing everyday since last November