scubascuba3 Posted Wednesday at 04:11 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:11 AM 1 hour ago, Gottfrid said: I get really tired of replies like yours, where you did not think at all before posting. Might be that you came to Thailand and never had a relationship before that, or you just don´t get it. Let´s break it down in simple chunks of education. First we deal with the age gap. Surely a gap over 20 years will be a bigger problem than a smaller one. It will also get harder if the younger one just came out of the teenage years. However, that is not a question or problem related to this thread. Just for you to get an understanding, the age gap between me and my wife is 10 years, which is fairly common and nothing that opens any eyes in the western world either. Moving along to the relationship or marriage. What you seem to have experience from, is massage and bargirls, and that is not something you use as a measurement for regular marriages. I am talking about a girlfriend or wife that had or did not have a regular job when starting the relationship. In my case I had met my wife´s older sister at another friends wedding first, and she introduced me to her sister. At that time they both worked in Bangkok in their cousins shop making replacement teeths. They had a salary of 15k baht per month that has now gone up to 18k baht for her sister who is still working and living in Bangkok. The family is from Isaan, and regular farmers. They already had a fairly big house, a lot of land, car and tractor as well as all the tools needed for farming. However, farming 1 time a year does not give much money for a whole year. Neither does working and living in Bangkok with a salary of only 15k baht. However, we make it short. I liked her and she liked me, so we married and there was not even any talk about a dowry, even as she had never been married nor had any children. We both wanted children, and I made enough money for us which led to that she stayed home, taking care of me, the home and later also our two daughters. Now we come to this! Disregarding if it would be a western stay at home wife, or a Thai wife, do they not need any money for their work with home and children. Does not a western wife expect to have spending money in such situation? Do you hear already how stupid and out of reality you reply was? After that, it´s quite normal for me to have economy together when living as husband and wife. Never had a problem with that in Thailand, but there was a bigger problem with that in my first marriage in Sweden. Okay, I do not share all the saving and invested capital with her, as we all need a security in life. However, she is aware of that and accept as well as understand. Of course I have built a house, bought a car and is spoiling her with different occasional gifts. Exactly like it would have been being married to a western woman. Probably less expensive then the western option. Anyway, that is something we do wherever we settle down in life. Sure, you can bring up all about that I can not own my house and bla bla bla. We are quite secure in our relation, but if it should go sideways, she is more than welcome to keep the house. Mostly that would be what happens in a divorce with a western woman when children involved anyway. And, after the children has grown up a little bit, she wanted to work. Then I saw it like a good idea she work for herself like I do. Therefore I invested and opened a shop for her, with savings money coming from our shard economy. So, now she have something to do and are happy with life. Isn´t that what you should do to each other in life? She makes me happy, and in return, I make her happy. So, as a conclusion, I have no idea what you are talking about. Must just be a great lack of experience. And, no! My wife is not very different to other Thai women that are not from the bar and massage scene. I am pretty sure that there are many foreigners on this forum, that can relate to my scenario in parts or as a whole. TLTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted Wednesday at 04:12 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:12 AM 1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said: Yes. A prodigious set of knockers. No doubt silicone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted Wednesday at 04:16 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:16 AM 5 minutes ago, London Boy said: I agree with OntheLash. Having a child, and paying international school fees, dramatically increases costs. I spend around 200k a month atm and that's just with one child. Not sure about that, My 12yo is in a CEP class (Chinese an English project) at a Thai government high school (24 in the class), he is fluent in Thai and English, and learning Chinese fairly well. Fees are 8kbht a term (5kbht this first year for uniforms and shoes), bus is 1,300bht/month, and he gets 100bht/day for food and snacks. We also pay a teacher from his school for 3 private lessons a week to improve his Thai reading and writing 500bht/week. Total costs under 5kbht/month. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted Wednesday at 04:25 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:25 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, KhunLA said: Wife, now, being 22 yrs my junior, hence the house, solar & EVs, so she's set for quite some time, as all new. Why the monthly bills structured to be silly inexpensive. Kid's out of Uni, self employed, hooked up and living her life @ Krung Thep, so I'm on retirement # 2 Actually did everything I ever wanted to do before I retired. Now the family thing is checked off, so this is all new to me Same for me, plus I paid for her to attend high school and University, my Thai wife tells me I'm the best Dad she ever had! Edited Wednesday at 04:27 AM by BritManToo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted Wednesday at 04:30 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 AM 21 minutes ago, BritManToo said: As a pensioner nearing death (like most forum members), I'd like to know why I need to save 45kbht a month? You will live 100 years. I know your type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted Wednesday at 04:38 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:38 AM 18 hours ago, susanlea said: Walk free Reading free Gym can be free Riding a bicycle can be free Motorbike cheap 120 baht massage Watermelon shake 35 baht Why do you need to spend lots of money to have fun? Most people buy crap they dont need or pay 5 to 10 times the cost price in expensive restaurants. But if you've worked hard to earn money are you not entitled to spend it? Whilst I admire your frugality it's not how I, or many others, wish to live their lives. I don't consider my lifestyle especially extravagant but it does consume about Bht100,000 per month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted Wednesday at 04:42 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:42 AM 1 hour ago, susanlea said: Which info did I twist? Is the house and car in your name? Does your wife pay half the food bills? Yes, now that she run a shop, we put same much in for cover the shared bills. Of course the house is not in my name, as that is not lawfully possible in Thailand. But, no big deal, as a man usually lose the house in a divorce with a western woman when kids are involved. The car is in my name. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 04:51 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 04:51 AM 12 minutes ago, Stocky said: But if you've worked hard to earn money are you not entitled to spend it? Whilst I admire your frugality it's not how I, or many others, wish to live their lives. I don't consider my lifestyle especially extravagant but it does consume about Bht100,000 per month. Depends how old you are and whether you need to spend to have fun. No wrong answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted Wednesday at 04:55 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:55 AM 42 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: No doubt silicone Well gee I never saw that one coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted Wednesday at 05:02 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:02 AM 23 minutes ago, Stocky said: But if you've worked hard to earn money are you not entitled to spend it? Whilst I admire your frugality it's not how I, or many others, wish to live their lives. I don't consider my lifestyle especially extravagant but it does consume about Bht100,000 per month. How do you spend 100k a month? not easy, maybe with family and school fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangel72 Posted Wednesday at 05:07 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:07 AM Been Bangkok 20 years and its always been around the same 80 - 100k a month. Times have changes, cheaper accommodation, living with a partner, being single, moving slightly away from main area, now with kid and school costs. The amount though has stayed the same throughout 80 to 100k, lifestyle just adjusted and traded some things for others but have never felt I'm living cheaply or missing out on anything. Only time I dropped below that was when I was not working and saving, might have been closer to 60k then but with kid on tow now, that might be challenging. Outside Bangkok, I suspect easily half that maybe less if I stayed at village house, not much there to spend things on even if I had spare cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:08 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:08 AM 5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: How do you spend 100k a month? not easy, maybe with family and school fees 80,000 hard to do unless kids. Your budget of 35,000 looks reasonable. If you rented still only be 45,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted Wednesday at 05:18 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:18 AM 21 hours ago, susanlea said: My favourite restaurant in Bangkok has great 69 baht meals. 3 a day is 207 baht. what restaurant is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:22 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:22 AM Just now, cdemundo said: what restaurant is that? Curry shop. Fairly small but great curries. Every dish is around the same price. Friendly service. The quality is 8 or 9 out of ten. For the price a bargain. Only ever saw one other farang in it. Like to keep it that way. The area is 99.5% Thai. If in the area I eat there everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted Wednesday at 05:22 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:22 AM (edited) Living with GF and Dog: House 17,500 Baht/Month Maintenance 500 Food 15,000 Own old Car 3,000 Electric/Water 1,200 Household Money 10,000 Hua Hin Westcoast. Edited Wednesday at 05:31 AM by ujayujay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted Wednesday at 05:27 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:27 AM 8 minutes ago, cdemundo said: what restaurant is that? Not unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted Wednesday at 05:32 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:32 AM 15 hours ago, Hummin said: Decent living with Kitchen facilities you cant get below 15 000 - 18 000,- a month. 800 baht electric and water additional. Decent quality food for home cooking 12 000 1500 a month for gym 29 300,- Yea, and what are you doing all day long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted Wednesday at 05:33 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:33 AM 25 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: How do you spend 100k a month? not easy, maybe with family and school fees One subset of people where 100,000 is not enough are those that would keep a presence in their home country, added travel costs, maintain first rate health insurance, and when in Thailand have additional expenses as they live more like a long term tourist who wants to enjoy retirement on those terms rather than someone who considers Thailand their home and settles down as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:36 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:36 AM 3 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: Yea, and what are you doing all day long? He talks to me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted Wednesday at 05:37 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:37 AM (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: Yea, and what are you doing all day long? I think me and the one who I replied to, described basic cost before spendings for fun, traveling and insurance. I have lived in new appartments for 3500, but it is not sustainable for longer periods, due to noise and the people it attracts for living there. Edited Wednesday at 05:48 AM by Hummin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:42 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:42 AM 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: As a pensioner nearing death (like most forum members), I'd like to know why I need to save 45kbht a month? How do you know most people are close to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted Wednesday at 05:43 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:43 AM Just now, susanlea said: How do you know most people are close to death? Isn't that the definition of pensioner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:45 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:45 AM Just now, BritManToo said: Isn't that the definition of pensioner? How old is Clint Eastwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted Wednesday at 05:48 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:48 AM 4 minutes ago, susanlea said: How do you know most people are close to death? Unless they are already dead, everyone is getting closer death. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted Wednesday at 05:50 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:50 AM (edited) 5 minutes ago, susanlea said: How old is Clint Eastwood? Clint will die with his boots on, he is not yet retired. What is Clint Eastwood doing now in 2024? He's currently directing and producing (2024) the upcoming movie Juror No.15. apr. 2024 Edited Wednesday at 05:51 AM by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:51 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:51 AM Just now, Hummin said: Clint will die with his boots on, he is not yet retired. But he is probably 30 years older than the average age on here. Maybe retirement brings death on sooner due to boredom and no meaningful experiences in life? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM 2 hours ago, susanlea said: You are living in denial. 90% of people would say you bought a wife. I'm not the weird one. I'm in the majority. I just waited a while before answering this one. Now you can take a look at your replies, which have negative emoji´s, and then you compare that to mine you replied to, that have positive emoji´s. Think that is a good pointer to where the majority falls. Or maybe, you just have another stupid remark out of sync with reality for that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: What is Clint Eastwood doing now in 2024? He's currently directing and producing (2024) the upcoming movie Juror No.15. apr. 2024 Bit of a legend really. Not sitting in crappy bars whinging about Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:53 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Celsius said: You will live 100 years. I know your type. Grumpy men live longest 3 minutes ago, susanlea said: But he is probably 30 years older than the average age on here. Maybe retirement brings death on sooner due to boredom and no meaningful experiences in life? Exactly, I'm going back to work as long I can. Edited Wednesday at 05:55 AM by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted Wednesday at 06:20 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:20 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: How do you spend 100k a month? not easy, maybe with family and school fees Easy to spend if you have bills, mortgage/rent/car and or MB loans, kids in school and support partner's family. Might even need 200k But myself & wife w/dog ... don't know how I would spend the ฿2700 baht a day extra. With all of 2k baht mandatory monthly bills, leaves 98k to play with. 15k for mandatory food, leaving ฿83k ฿83k left, (actually about what my Soc Sec is, depending on exchange rate). In USA, yes, that would be easy. One night hotel stay. Last O&A, think most expensive room was ฿1000/$27, meal, maybe ฿800/$21 Even a full day of driving, 4- hrs, (320 kms) only cost ฿375 (EV) Can't remember last time a room cost >฿2k or a meal >฿1k. We don't do big metros or tourist areas. I guess if we stayed on the road, everyday, in a hotel, dined out, we'd spend ฿100k a month. That's not looking for any bargains and being thrifty, and still think we'd have plenty left over. If I ate western food w/alcohol, then it would be a lot easier to spend ฿100k a month, when O&A, but not from home. That would be holiday mode though. We like our bed, our food, and the view from the veranda, along with 5 ish minutes from surfside. At least the wife has stopped asking me, why we go O&A, on holiday, when we moved to our favorite holiday location in TH ... hmm Edited Wednesday at 06:37 AM by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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