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4 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

When you get the cancer will stay here or go back?

Crikey, keep it positive, it's not doom and gloom for some of us here.

 

The heading should be changed. 

 

'if YOU get the cancer will stay here or go back?' 

 

 

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It depends including age, I'm not sure I trust them here, that youtuber had oesophagus cancer blew 1-2m on treatment here and had to go back to UK anyway and died, may have wasted time being treated here.

 

Maybe an option is to go to India, don't laugh, much cheaper plus only 2 hour flights, because treatment can take many hospital visits over a long time as i know from a friend who has stage 4 bowel cancer

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8 hours ago, CharlieH said:

as long as I am not in pain,

That is kind of a big one isn't it?

 

I have seen folks die with cancer treated (pain killers etc) & untreated

I would not wish the untreated pain on anyone

 

So as long as things like morphine are purchasable then yes staying is likely option

If not I can imagine why some joined the flying clubs

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8 minutes ago, mania said:

So as long as things like morphine are purchasable then yes staying is likely option

They are not purchasable in Thailand. 

Zero chance to get decent pain management outside a few hospitals. 

Some common pain killers are not marketed in Thailand,  and even tramadol has become hard to get.

Outside the hospital,  cancer patients in Thailand usually get paracetamol (there were threads about this in the past).

They are in terrible pain. 

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8 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Terminal cancer.

My son died of cancer in the UK. They prolonged his 'life' as long as possible. It was very sad to watch.

I now have a living will.

F-I-L was diagnosed with cancer when visiting us in Australia.

When asked if he wanted to 'go home' he said 'Why? There the weather will be cxxp and I will be surrounded by miserable people'.

He stayed in Oz.

The hospice/palliative care was excellent.

We made sure that his last couple of weeks were a good as possible.

Whisky next to his bed in hospital. (Nurse said not allowed. His answer was 'well, it's not going to kill me'. Doc said it was OK.)

The hospice even helped us to organise 'outings' so that he could go to Bondi beach (a long time dream of his).

He had a morphine drip that he could adjust (for the pain).

Strange that he died on the one night when we did not visit him.

So - a bottle of whisky and morphine for me.

 

So sad, very sorry to hear; sounds like he showed great courage and stoicism …. wishing you strength to carry on

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

Maybe don’t get cancer. It’s not difficult you know? 

Perhaps you tell us how it is done then.

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I plan to go back to the UK for end of life care but stay here while I am ambulatory.

 

Reasons: I live alone whereas in UK I have some family. Access to painkillers e.g Fentanyl/palliative care expertise. Living costs in UK are higher but here medical care costs are open ended and I don't know how long I would be incapacitated for.

 

In UK there should be a district nurse coming round and oxygen bottles if needed will likely be delivered. I have thought about hiring a live in nurse here, but feel as I am without a strong spouse who can sort things out, i would be better in UK.

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3 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

If I get cancer, I shall be staying here, until I die, irrespective of the type of cancer and the stage of the cancer at diagnosis.

 

Agree, as I said earlier.

 

One thing to do in advance, for all you preparers, is to look around for a Wat where you can get very own funerary stupa, like this:

 

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How cool is that?

 

Specify your best photo as a young person, maybe photoshop in your wife/gf in a romantic pose to get her on board. Thais tend to use the latest photos of you old, decrepit, and decayed. They'll blow them up at your ceremony, so everybody has to look at it and remember you as a near corpse.

 

These stupas can be decorated somewhat, so you could scatter in a few fave logos, such as:

 

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If you can't find such a Wat conveniently located, then Plan B would be to find one with a sort of wall columbarium with a niche for your urn, like this:

 

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Your beneficiaries will appreciate the savings. Quite tasteful, not so ostentatious as the stupa.

 

Otherwise, you can't do better than just Pattaya Bay, near the girls and go-gos. I know a few people (former people) out there feeding the fishes.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

of course they promise you the stupa when youre alive..but when your time come..how would you know....i think the monks just keep sangsom and porn hidden in there...

 

driving down doi shutep yest showing a turkish gal around and there is an abandoned crematorium up there....where they burn the bodies is a metal slab and still has a melange of old bones still scattered on it......wonder if they promises them a stupa???

Get your Turkish gal to make sure they do.

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3 hours ago, Lorry said:

 

Zero chance to get decent pain management outside a few hospitals. 

 

 

I know someone who gets a morphine shot daily here in Chiang Mai.

 

A bit dubious: he's been in the clear for bowel cancer for 7 years -and he has a medical visa.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

of course they promise you the stupa when youre alive..but when your time come..how would you know....i think the monks just keep sangsom and porn hidden in there...

 

Your Executor ensures they keep the agreement, of course. If you have no one you can trust to serve as Executor for such a reverent task, as seems likely in your case, perhaps you can at least pay some bargirl to dump you in Pattaya Bay.

 

Otherwise, some Thai gov't entity will dispose of you. Some of our members may have more specific details about this. Happened to an old friend of mine in Vietnam who'd turned into an obnoxious drunk. No friends, no relatives would admit knowing him. Police removed his body and that was that.

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2 hours ago, mokwit said:

Perhaps you tell us how it is done then.

It’s easy. Don’t eat processed food. Fast occasionally. Do some research. Stop listening to government:corporations about diet. Oh and going outside doesn’t hurt. Active outdoors best. But it seems some of this should be common sense to me idk 

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21 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

I know someone who gets a morphine shot daily here in Chiang Mai.

 

A bit dubious: he's been in the clear for bowel cancer for 7 years -and he has a medical visa.

 

 

Is Laos still awash with Opium? maybe go there towards the end

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6 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

It’s easy. Don’t eat processed food. Fast occasionally. Do some research. Stop listening to government:corporations about diet

Yes I am aware that there is a view that processed food is a contributor, particularly with bowel cancer, but it is not a clear cut case that if you don't eat processed food you won't get cancer. You might reduce the risk according to statistics. I hadn't eaten processed food for 30 years and grew up on all natural fresh produce.

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