Israel targets Hamas military leader; 71 killed in Mawasi strike

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The compound that was targeted belonged to Salameh the commander of Hamas’s Khan Younis Brigade, friend and deputy of Muhammad Deif. Morally bankrupt Hamas embedding themselves among civilians. Several dozen more Hamas operatives were also in the area of the site when it was bombed.

 

 

 

The IDF releases imagery showing a fenced-off Hamas compound in the southern Gaza Strip where Mohammed Deif, the commander of Hamas's military wing, and Rafa’a Salameh, the commander of Hamas's Khan Younis Brigade were targeted earlier today.

"The area that was struck is an open and forested area, with several buildings and sheds," the military says.

The images show before and after the strike

 

https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1812093081878966363

 

Good news, Hamas has just confirmed one of the terrorist leaders was killed. So dozens of Hamas and at least one of their leaders so far.

 

The London-based newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat cited a Hamas source that said Rafa Salama, the commander of the Khan Yunis Brigade in Hamas' military wing, was killed in an Israeli attack, and his body was immediately buried.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats the easy explanation to comfort themselves with, instead of looking at the real problems and the real conflict behind it. Also great way to reason for the brutality and war crimes done by Israelis now. As they always have done their revenge in ten folds, and continue to grab peices of land, over and over and again and again. 

 

   I am stating facts .

The October 7 th terror attack by Hamas on Israel caused this war .

There haven't been any war crimes by Israel .

  ( BTW , did any of your ancestors ever grab anyone else's land ?)

[OneMoreFarang]

Israels does whatever they want. Because especially now most leaders of other countries are busy with other things.

Who in this world really cares how many Palestinians die? 

Almost nobody.

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am stating facts .

The October 7 th terror attack by Hamas on Israel caused this war .

There haven't been any war crimes by Israel .

  ( BTW , did any of your ancestors ever grab anyone else's land ?)

So every other actions and operations previous the last war have been terror bombing, strikes and illegal operations inside Gaza ? Illegal land captures, and also kidnapping kids and put them in detantion camps. Now we getting somewhere with this discussion, can call it progress

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  ( BTW , did any of your ancestors ever grab anyone else's land ?)

Denmark and Sweeden have stolen land from us! 

 

I thought this was about Israel and Gaza? 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

So every other actions and operations previous the last war have been terror bombing, strikes and illegal operations inside Gaza ? 

 

  Could you re write that , I have a headache trying to read it 

[Nick Carter icp]

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Denmark and Sweeden have stolen land from us! 

 

I thought this was about Israel and Gaza? 

 

  So why aren't you bombing and attacking Denmark and Sweden to try and get your land back ?

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  So why aren't you bombing and attacking Denmark and Sweden to try and get your land back ?

Because we no longer is suppressed by either Sweeden or Denmark. When we got our freedom back, we where same amount of population as Gaza at 385 207km2 with great natural free resources. Gaza size 360km2

 

When occupied by germans, we where non different than Gazans, we terrorized the Germans and sabotaged them, even punished Norwegians who cooperated with the Germans, but at a high price. 

 

8 - 10 innocent Norwegians was likely to be executed after each and one German official killed. 

Edited July 14 by Hummin

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Because we no longer is suppressed by either Sweeden or Denmark. When we got our freedom back, we where same amount of population as Gaza at 385 207km2 with great natural free resources. Gaza size 360km2

 

When occupied by germans, we where non different than Gazans, we terrorized the Germans and sabotaged them, even punished Norwegians who cooperated with the Germans, but at a high price. 

 

8 - 10 innocent Norwegians was likely to be executed after each and one German official killed. 

 

  Palestinians refused that freedom though , they have been offered a land and they rejected that offer of land and a Country  .

   Palestinians want ALL the land , why don't you want ALL the land as well ? Fight to get your own land back and stay out of other peoples business 

   Palestinians are acting like the Nazis

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Palestinians refused that freedom though , they have been offered a land and they rejected that offer of land and a Country  .

   Palestinians want ALL the land , why don't you want ALL the land as well ? Fight to get your own land back and stay out of other peoples business 

   Palestinians are acting like the Nazis

Realism of reality isnt that hard to understand if you try, but you are not even willing to understand simple things even. 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Realism of reality isnt that hard to understand if you try, but you are not even willing to understand simple things even. 

 

  You don't know much about the situation 

[Hummin]

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You don't know much about the situation 

who are you to claim you understand, who do not even understand basic human needs? 

Edited July 14 by Hummin

[Nick Carter icp]

47 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

 

When occupied by germans, we where non different than Gazans, we terrorized the Germans and sabotaged them, even punished Norwegians who cooperated with the Germans, but at a high price. 

 

 

 

   Prior to this  war, there were no Israelis in Gaza .

Gaza was not occupied by Israel , so its a false equivalence comparing Germans in Norway and Israel and Gaza .

   Palestinians invaded Israel , just like the Nazis invaded Norway 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Prior to this  war, there were no Israelis in Gaza .

Gaza was not occupied by Israel , so its a false equivalence comparing Germans in Norway and Israel and Gaza .

   Palestinians invaded Israel , just like the Nazis invaded Norway 

Selective view helps you a great way, try again

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

What is surprising, you still defend their war day after day, and do not see how bad it is

Seems some on here think that if it was less than the stated numbers it's OK.

IMO there are some <deleted> people out there.

Transport the same situation to Ukraine, done by the Russians and the same people excusing it on here would be outraged at Russia. It doesn't work like that. Vile acts are vile acts whoever did them.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who in this world really cares how many Palestinians die? 

Almost nobody.

I think a great many people care and they have been out demonstrating, but as long as nations allow the US to veto any action against israel nothing is going to change. IMO it's time for the nations of the world to by pass the US and sanction israel into poverty, unless it stops it's crimes against humanity.

Let the US support a poverty stricken israel if they want to. They obviously have plenty of money the way they have been spending it on 2 wars.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, retarius said:

Vile 'morality' in Israel. 

Bombs have no morality, PERIOD.

[Skipalongcassidy]

40 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I think a great many people care and they have been out demonstrating, but as long as nations allow the US to veto any action against israel nothing is going to change. IMO it's time for the nations of the world to by pass the US and sanction israel into poverty, unless it stops it's crimes against humanity.

Let the US support a poverty stricken israel if they want to. They obviously have plenty of money the way they have been spending it on 2 wars.

You mean as long as the middle east muslims continue to hate and terrorize throughout the world it is time to SANCTION THEM INTO POVERTY... UNLESS THEY STOP THE HATE AND TERROR and crimes against humanity... 

[Neeranam]

16 hours ago, Hummin said:

who are you to claim you understand, who do not even understand basic human needs? 

Jews around the world are brainwashed into thinking Israel can do no wrong, they believe all the Israeli propaganda. 

[Neeranam]

16 hours ago, Hummin said:

Selective view helps you a great way, try again

He's talking nonsense. Israel never left Gaza, they controlled the air space, water, electricity, they had a blockade ffs. 

[Bkk Brian]

Bit more info on the lead up to the strike on the terrorists villa/compound which was weeks in the making.

 

Latest: Israeli security officials told the @nytimes that a few weeks ago the villa and compound in Khan Yunis belonging to the family of Rafa Salama, where Deif stayed occasionally, were identified, But following the assessment that Mohammed Deif would join Salama , it was decided to wait with the attack. Deif health problems forced him to leave the tunnels. Therefore It was decided to wait - until the moment Deif was identified in the complex. According to the same sources, an attempt to assassinate Deif , the head of the military wing of Hamas, occurred after weeks of surveillance of the compound. According to the sources, the @idf came to the conclusion that Deif, who survived several assassination attempts, suffers from health problems that force him to spend more time above ground, outside the Hamas tunnels, than the other leaders of the terrorist organization. Evidence suggested that Deif trusted Salama. This evidence, obtained by The @nytimes, included a recently revealed photo of the two resting together in a garden. There is still no formal confirmation that Deif was eliminated but the chances are high that he was. @nytimes

 

Close Surveillance Led to Israeli Attack on Hamas Compound
Israel officials had been hoping that a high-ranking Hamas figure, Muhammad Deif, would visit a villa tied to a top lieutenant. They struck when he appeared to be there, officials said. For weeks, Israel kept watch on a palm-tree-dotted villa in southern Gaza where it believed a top Hamas lieutenant was staying with his family, but it held off on a strike, according to three senior Israeli defense officials. The Israelis had a bigger target in mind: Muhammad Deif, the elusive leader of Hamas’s military wing.

https://archive.ph/FH3ub

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-deif-assassination-attempt.html

[simple1]

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 Do you still believe Hamas lies ?

Pointing out Hamas often lie and that their figures are not reliable  isn't defending anything 

 

A quote from the OP below. Takeaway being IDF are consciously killing civilians, no comment regards proportionality etc. demonstrates Israeli distain for non combatants suffering. Israeli's have plenty of means for targeted killings, yet mass killings in civilian areas is nearly a daily event.

 

“If Hamas senior leaders think they’ll build a compound and hide in a compound in an area where we called for them [civilians] to move to, we will hunt them down,” the military official said in a briefing with reporters.

 

The PM has made it very clear he will carry on with killings of Hamas even when a cease fire is reached, so why would Hamas agree to handing over hostages?

 

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office on Saturday dismissed any idea that Israel would agree to a permanent cease-fire before "the destruction of Hamas' military and governing capabilities," saying such a proposal is "a non-starter."

https://www.voanews.com/a/netanyahu-says-the-war-will-not-end-till-hamas-is-destroyed-/7639063.html

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

He's talking nonsense. Israel never left Gaza, they controlled the air space, water, electricity, they had a blockade ffs. 

 

   Israel did leaved Gaza .

Israel are not obliged  to supply Gaza with anything and Israel can control its own border and decide itself what crosses that border ,

   Israel may have had a blockade on the border, which they are entitled to do, but there was no occupations of Gaza 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

A quote from the OP below. Takeaway being IDF are consciously killing civilians, no comment regards proportionality etc. demonstrates Israeli distain for non combatants suffering. Israeli's have plenty of means for targeted killings, yet mass killings in civilian areas is nearly a daily event.

 

“If Hamas senior leaders think they’ll build a compound and hide in a compound in an area where we called for them [civilians] to move to, we will hunt them down,” the military official said in a briefing with reporters.

 

The PM has made it very clear he will carry on with killings of Hamas even when a cease fire is reached, so why would Hamas agree to handing over hostages?

 

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office on Saturday dismissed any idea that Israel would agree to a permanent cease-fire before "the destruction of Hamas' military and governing capabilities," saying such a proposal is "a non-starter."

https://www.voanews.com/a/netanyahu-says-the-war-will-not-end-till-hamas-is-destroyed-/7639063.html

 

 

   Hamas need to separate themselves from the civilians , they know very well that the IDF have intention  to kill them all .

   Israel are in the process of wiping Hamas out , killing them all .

If Hamas choose to stay in civilian areas, its very likely that civilians will also dies in the process 

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas need to separate themselves from the civilians , they know very well that the IDF have intention  to kill them all .

   Israel are in the process of wiping Hamas out , killing them all .

If Hamas choose to stay in civilian areas, its very likely that civilians will also dies in the process 

 

Exactly where can Hamas separate themselves from civilians living in Gaza; I would imagine they would be destroyed in a relatively short time if they did so. It's a fact it's been classic tactics for decades for insurgency style warfare. "The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea". Numerous deeply experienced  political / military leaders have clearly stated the only way to conclude the current conflict is by diplomatic means, something the PM appears not to want to do so.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Exactly where can Hamas separate themselves from civilians living in Gaza; I would imagine they would be destroyed in a relatively short time if they did so. It's a fact it's been classic tactics for decades for insurgency style warfare. "The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea". Numerous deeply experienced  political / military leaders have clearly stated the only way to conclude the current conflict is by diplomatic means, something the PM appears not to want to do so.

 

   On October 10 th 2023 , there was ample places where Hamas could go away from the public 

[300sd]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:30 PM, Hummin said:

Can you admit this war is about land? Israel still want the promised land back? 

Surely you can't believe that drivel. This war was never about land nor were any of the other wars about land. This war and all the others were about getting rid of Jews.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, 300sd said:

Surely you can't believe that drivel. This war was never about land nor were any of the other wars about land. This war and all the others were about getting rid of Jews.

Im done going in circles with you guys, and reminds me of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink”

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im done going in circles with you guys, and reminds me of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink”

 

  But it is you who is wrong .

You can keep saying the wrong thing over and over again, but that will not make it to be right 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  But it is you who is wrong .

You can keep saying the wrong thing over and over again, but that will not make it to be right 

You wish I was wrong, but you know Im right. There is no excuse for what Israel have done since their state Israel was reborn, and it just continue to add up bomb by bomb dropped killing innocent women and children!