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Israel Hamas War the Widening Middle East Conflict

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On 6/21/2025 at 2:16 AM, bannork said:

A breakdown in communications networks in central and southern Gaza has cut many Palestinians off from the outside world for the past week, further straining aid efforts and emergency services amid continuing Israeli bombardment.

 

Israeli strikes damaged a main connection, cutting off communications in large areas of the strip since Tuesday, according to the Telecommunications Regulatory Authority, based in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

 

The telecom company Paltel said Friday that internet and landline services were restored in some areas in southern Gaza, including Khan Younis, with repairs ongoing in other southern and central areas.

 

Internet and phone outage in much of Gaza disrupts humanitarian operations and deepens isolation

I’ve worked with Patel in the past.  I shed no tears.

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    I am trying to figure out how killing negotiators that refuse to negotiate is bad for negotiations, help me out here. 

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    I offer that Haniyeh was not a negotiator other than in description for propaganda purposes. Western media such as BBC  have also called him a "moderate", despite his history of direct involvement in

  • thaibeachlovers
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    LOL. How many tanks is Hamas using, how many warplanes are combating the israelis as they drop big bombs on defenseless women and children? Tell us about the air defense systems Hamas has at it's comm

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TEL AVIV/CAIRO (Reuters) -At least 15 Palestinians were killed overnight in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, according to local health officials, as U.S. President Donald Trump said he expected Hamas to respond to his "final proposal" for a ceasefire in Gaza in the next 24 hours.

 

Health officials at the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, southern Gaza, said the Israeli military had carried out an airstrike on a tent encampment west of the city around 2 a.m., killing 15 Palestinians displaced by nearly two years of war.

 

The Israeli military had no immediate comment.

 

Israeli military kills 15 in Gaza as Trump awaits Hamas reply to truce proposal

3 hours ago, bannork said:

TEL AVIV/CAIRO (Reuters) -At least 15 Palestinians were killed overnight in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, according to local health officials, as U.S. President Donald Trump said he expected Hamas to respond to his "final proposal" for a ceasefire in Gaza in the next 24 hours.

 

Health officials at the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, southern Gaza, said the Israeli military had carried out an airstrike on a tent encampment west of the city around 2 a.m., killing 15 Palestinians displaced by nearly two years of war.

 

The Israeli military had no immediate comment.

 

Israeli military kills 15 in Gaza as Trump awaits Hamas reply to truce proposal

Nice Hamas says report. Those Hamas health officials in Nasser hospital, are they the same ones that were there when dozens of the hostages were held in small rooms for months there? 

Israel has continued to launch waves of airstrikes in Gaza, hours after Hamas said it was ready to start talks “immediately” on a US-sponsored proposal for a 60-day ceasefire.

 

The announcement by the militant Islamist organisation increased hopes that a deal may be done within days to pause the killing in Gaza and possibly end the near 21-month conflict.

 

Saturday was relatively “calmer” after days of intense bombardment, aid officials and residents in Gaza said, although 24 Palestinians were killed, including 10 people seeking humanitarian aid, according to hospital officials.

 

Israel continues airstrikes on Gaza after Hamas says it is ready for ceasefire talks

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Israel has continued to launch waves of airstrikes in Gaza, hours after Hamas said it was ready to start talks “immediately” on a US-sponsored proposal for a 60-day ceasefire.

 

The announcement by the militant Islamist organisation increased hopes that a deal may be done within days to pause the killing in Gaza and possibly end the near 21-month conflict.

 

Saturday was relatively “calmer” after days of intense bombardment, aid officials and residents in Gaza said, although 24 Palestinians were killed, including 10 people seeking humanitarian aid, according to hospital officials.

 

Israel continues airstrikes on Gaza after Hamas says it is ready for ceasefire talks

Did you or the Guardian expect the war to finish just because the terrorists agreed to talk? Yea I guess so or you would not have posted it. For everyone else that does not do Hamas's bidding for them.

 

There are still huge differences and as US special envoy to the Mideast Steve Witkoff made clear, Hamas needs accept the mediators’ proposal as is, so that only a small number of issues would need to be raised during proximity talks. Those included the number and the identities of the Palestinian prisoners to be released in the deal and the maps marking the withdrawal of Israeli troops.

 

Hamas is not doing the above with its current ceasefire response.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-responds-positively-to-truce-offer-says-its-ready-to-start-proximity-talks/

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Israel has continued to launch waves of airstrikes in Gaza, hours after Hamas said it was ready to start talks “immediately” on a US-sponsored proposal for a 60-day ceasefire.

 

The announcement by the militant Islamist organisation increased hopes that a deal may be done within days to pause the killing in Gaza and possibly end the near 21-month conflict.

 

Saturday was relatively “calmer” after days of intense bombardment, aid officials and residents in Gaza said, although 24 Palestinians were killed, including 10 people seeking humanitarian aid, according to hospital officials.

 

Israel continues airstrikes on Gaza after Hamas says it is ready for ceasefire talks

 

Hamas has not agreed to anything. On the contrary, they rejected the wording that Qatar and Egypt drafted and provided "amendments", and still refuse to release all hostages immediately. All theyt are doing is dragging this out. Until Hamas agrees to release hostages and to stop hostilities, Israel can still seek to liberate its  people.

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Gaza's Power Vacuum: Hamas Official Admits Group Has Lost Control Amid Rise of Armed Clans

 

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Gaza's Power Vacuum: Hamas Official Admits Group Has Lost Control Amid Rise of Armed Clans

 

A senior Hamas security officer has made a stark admission that the militant group has lost nearly all control over the Gaza Strip, with chaos and lawlessness spreading across the territory. Speaking to the BBC, the lieutenant colonel said that Hamas’s command structure has disintegrated under relentless Israeli military pressure, leaving armed clans to fill the void in a region descending into violence and disorder.

 

“Let’s be realistic here – there’s barely anything left of the security structure. Most of the leadership, about 95%, are now dead... The active figures have all been killed,” the officer said, painting a grim picture of internal collapse. According to him, even a 57-day ceasefire earlier this year failed to restore the group’s footing, despite efforts to reorganize its political, military, and security arms.

 

“About the security situation, let me be clear: it has completely collapsed. Totally gone. There’s no control anywhere,” he said. One of the most symbolic signs of Hamas’s collapse, he added, was the looting of Ansar, its main security complex that once acted as the nerve center of governance in Gaza. “People looted the most powerful Hamas security apparatus,” he stated.

 

The officer described a lawless Gaza where “gangs or armed clans are everywhere.” In his words, “They could stop you, kill you. No one would intervene. Anyone who tried to act on their own, like organising resistance against thieves, was bombed by Israel within half an hour.”

 

He described the current state of the group as one of total dysfunction. “So, the security situation is zero. Hamas’s control is zero. There’s no leadership, no command, no communication. Salaries are delayed, and when they do arrive, they’re barely usable. Some die just trying to collect them. It’s total collapse.”

 

With Hamas faltering, six armed groups tied to local clans have risen to prominence, the officer said, with most of their activity focused in southern Gaza. These groups now possess the cash, weapons, and manpower to challenge the once-dominant group.

 

One of the most notable figures to emerge is Yasser Abu Shabab, whose rise has drawn attention from multiple regional actors, including the Palestinian Authority and Israel. Last month, Israel confirmed it was supplying weapons to Abu Shabab’s group, a revelation that has intensified speculation about broader geopolitical maneuvering.

 

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The officer said Hamas had put a large bounty on Abu Shabab’s head. “Hamas would ignore ordinary thieves. People are hungry and [the fighters] don’t want to provoke more chaos. But this guy? If the Hamas fighters find him, they might go after him instead of Israeli tanks,” he said.

 

Sources in Gaza confirmed to the BBC that Abu Shabab is attempting to form a joint council of armed factions with the goal of toppling what remains of Hamas’s rule. A retired Palestinian security official who once helped crush Hamas’s military arm in the 1990s said Abu Shabab’s network was gaining traction. “Abu Shabab’s group is like an orphaned child who everyone will want to adopt if he succeeds in undermining Hamas rule,” the former official, now living in Cairo, said.

 

The official added that Abu Shabab has held multiple meetings with a senior Palestinian intelligence officer and used relatives in Sinai to send assurances to Egypt. He also maintains “good ties with Mohammad Dahlan’s camp,” he said, referring to the exiled former Gaza security chief and longtime rival of the Palestinian Authority's President Mahmoud Abbas.

 

According to the Hamas officer, the group sees Abu Shabab not merely as a military threat but as a potential symbol around whom years of opposition to Hamas rule could coalesce. “For 17 years, Hamas made enemies everywhere. If someone like Abu Shabab can rally those forces, that could be the beginning of the end for us.”

 

 

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3 hours ago, bannork said:

An Israeli reservist with three tours of duty under his belt speaks out about his deployment in Gaza.

 

'Some Israeli commanders can decide to do war crimes' | Watch

 

Very brave soldier, I feel for the ones who have a conscience yet are forced to fight. I saw that, it’s awful that this is being refuted by Western leaders. 
I'm frankly disgusted with my own country’s government, and of corse the USA.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Any name to this reservist, oh no, unsourced and unverified allegations again. What a surprise from you.

For Gods sake man, it’s Sky news. Of course they won’t give his name.

 

5 hours ago, SamSaraburi said:

For Gods sake man, it’s Sky news. Of course they won’t give his name.

 

Evoking God does not make this any more credible no matter what media outlet carries it, it remains unverified, unknown incidents and allegations by one unnamed reservist soldier.

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Any name to this reservist, oh no, unsourced and unverified allegations again. What a surprise from you.

 

 

No more frogman outfits for this terrorist and his buddies. IDF and Shin Bet airstrike kills Hamas Naval Force commander Ramzi Ramadan Abd Ali Saleh, along with key Hamas terrorists in Gaza. Saleh was involved in planning maritime terrorist attacks.

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 ELIMINATED: Commander of Hamas’ Naval Force in northern Gaza and additional terrorists.

The terrorist Ramzi Ramadan Abd Ali Saleh was eliminated by the IDF in Gaza City. Saleh was a significant source of knowledge within Hamas and in recent weeks, was involved in planning and advancing maritime terrorist attacks against IDF troops operating in Gaza.

Also eliminated in the strike:
🔴 Hisham Ayman Atiya Mansour– Deputy Head of Hamas’ mortar shell array cell.
🔴 Nissim Muhammad Suleiman Abu Sabha– A terrorist in Hamas’ mortar shell array.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1941838705842323695

 

I hope he's right, getting the hostages back is why there is still a war going on, thanks to Hamas who refuse to release them. You'd never know it mind you with some members who do nothing but post links to anti Israel propaganda

 

Released Hamas hostage says Trump can bring home those still captive in Gaza

An American Israeli man who was held captive by Hamas has told the BBC that US President Donald Trump has the power to secure the release of the remaining hostages and end the war in Gaza.
Keith Siegel, 66, was kidnapped from Kibbutz Kfar Aza during the Hamas-led attacks on Israel on 7 October 2023. He was released this February after 484 days in captivity under a ceasefire deal that Trump helped broker just before he took office.
He was taken along with his wife, Aviva, who was held for 51 days before being freed during an earlier ceasefire.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xvd4jd0wvo

 

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https://x.com/NoaMagid/status/1942028427420156353

 

At least 15 Palestinians, including eight children and two women, have been killed in an Israeli strike while queuing for nutritional supplements in front of a clinic in central Gaza, a hospital says.

 

Video from al-Aqsa Martyrs hospital in Deir al-Balah showed the bodies of several children and others lying on the floor as medics treated their wounds.

 

US-based aid group Project Hope, which runs the clinic, said the attack was a blatant violation of international law. The Israeli military said it struck a "Hamas terrorist" and regretted any harm to civilians.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gd01g1gxro

7 hours ago, bannork said:

At least 15 Palestinians, including eight children and two women, have been killed in an Israeli strike while queuing for nutritional supplements in front of a clinic in central Gaza, a hospital says.

 

Video from al-Aqsa Martyrs hospital in Deir al-Balah showed the bodies of several children and others lying on the floor as medics treated their wounds.

 

US-based aid group Project Hope, which runs the clinic, said the attack was a blatant violation of international law. The Israeli military said it struck a "Hamas terrorist" and regretted any harm to civilians.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gd01g1gxro

Another tragic incident and more proof of Hamas using its own civilians as human shields. 
 

Hamas doesn’t want this war to end. If it did then the hostages would have been released a long time ago. Fact that you deliberately ignore

12 hours ago, coolcarer said:

Another tragic incident and more proof of Hamas using its own civilians as human shields. 
 

Hamas doesn’t want this war to end. If it did then the hostages would have been released a long time ago. Fact that you deliberately ignore

An idf statement saying so doesn't prove there was a terrorist amongst the waiting. And even if there eas, does killing 1 terrorist justify killing 14 innocents?

36 minutes ago, stevenl said:

An idf statement saying so doesn't prove there was a terrorist amongst the waiting. And even if there eas, does killing 1 terrorist justify killing 14 innocents?

I believe the IDF more so than I do Hamas officials. Do you not? Like I said tragic incident that is more proof of Hamas using Gazans as human shields.

 

do you agree this war would have been over a long time ago if Hamas released the hostages and that this incident would not have happened? 
 

Do you agree Hamas is deliberately prolonging the war by not releasing the hostages?
 

 

29 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

I believe the IDF more so than I do Hamas officials. Do you not?

I trust neither.

16 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I trust neither.

Extreme false equivalence. Its a well known fact Hamas use civilians as human shields

 

EU nations condemn Hamas for what they describe as use of hospitals, civilians as ‘human shields’

https://apnews.com/article/european-union-condemn-hamas-human-shields-2c0d1c04cb38fc4acce37d8d624e1a3f

 

So what about the other questions. Afraid of more facts?

19 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I trust neither.

A Hamas apologist would say that. The alternative would be that they deliberately targeted innocent civilians with no other reason than to commit a war crime. 
 

Only Hamas does that.

23 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

A Hamas apologist would say that. The alternative would be that they deliberately targeted innocent civilians with no other reason than to commit a war crime. 
 

Only Hamas does that.

And an idf apologist would say that. 

42 minutes ago, stevenl said:

And an idf apologist would say that. 

More than happy to be an IDF apologist rather that a terrorist apologist. That's what this war is about, Israel vs Hamas. Facts hurt you I know. Still waiting on these questions.

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

do you agree this war would have been over a long time ago if Hamas released the hostages and that this incident would not have happened? 
 

Do you agree Hamas is deliberately prolonging the war by not releasing the hostages?
 

 

 

Doctors have warned of an imminent disaster at Gaza's largest functioning hospital because of critical shortage of fuel and a widening Israeli ground offensive in the southern city of Khan Younis.

 

Nasser Medical Complex was forced to stop admitting patients on Thursday, when witnesses said Israeli troops and tanks advanced into a cemetery 200m (660ft) away and fired towards nearby camps for displaced families. 

 

 The forces reportedly withdrew on Friday after digging up several areas.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx5zeywgrgo

34 minutes ago, bannork said:

Doctors have warned of an imminent disaster at Gaza's largest functioning hospital because of critical shortage of fuel and a widening Israeli ground offensive in the southern city of Khan Younis.

 

Nasser Medical Complex was forced to stop admitting patients on Thursday, when witnesses said Israeli troops and tanks advanced into a cemetery 200m (660ft) away and fired towards nearby camps for displaced families. 

 

 The forces reportedly withdrew on Friday after digging up several areas.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx5zeywgrgo

More terrorists using hospitals as human shields, the same hospital they kept dozens of innocent hostages locked up in for weeks in small rooms.

 

From your link:

However, it said on Friday morning that an armoured brigade was operating in Khan Younis to dismantle "terrorist infrastructure sites" and confiscate weapons> It has previously issued evacuation orders for the areas around the hospital.

 

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

EU nations condemn Hamas for what they describe as use of hospitals, civilians as ‘human shields’

https://apnews.com/article/european-union-condemn-hamas-human-shields-2c0d1c04cb38fc4acce37d8d624e1a3f

 

 

Of course, Hamas and the media will report the dozens of terrorists killed as Palestinian civilians to add to their fake tally.

 

Dozens of operatives were killed and over 130 "terror infrastructures," both above and below ground were demolished by troops of the Golani Brigade during operations in southern Gaza's Khan Younis in the past week, the military says.

Among the sites was a 500-meter-long and 13-meter-deep Hamas tunnel, the military says. It was destroyed by the elite Yahalom combat engineering unit.

Other sites included caches of weapons, booby-trapped buildings, observation posts, and mortar launching positions, the military says.

 

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