How screwed is my friend?

[Sandboxer]

Wife of a friend and he is not very good with understanding complicated English.

 

Female, age 50, previously had breast cancer+ mastectomy 7 yrs ago. Recently had a lump grow in her clavicular area. It's a "well known" govt hospital which I personally would not let my dog have his nuts cut off in.

 

Below the biopsy result.

 

Obviously, I know this is bad.  Metastatic....malignant.....glandular......

 

Just trying to get an idea just how bad/lethal and how long(ish). Anyone have an educated (or semi educated) guess?

 

They are talking about chemo, but somehow this feels like a Hail Mary.

 

 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

What does Google say?

[Sandboxer]

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

What does Google say?

 

Dr. Google is all over the place on this one (or I'm just too stupid to phrase the search specifically/correctly).

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, Sandboxer said:

 

Dr. Google is all over the place on this one (or I'm just too stupid to phrase the search specifically/correctly).

maybe try google scholar 

[JimTripper]

18 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

What does Google say?

It says penis. I'm not sure why it says that.

[Sandboxer]

1 minute ago, JimTripper said:

It says penis. I'm not sure why it says that.

Stop typing in "What part of my body does my wife hate?"

[Lacessit]

Meta static means the cancer is spreading to other organs.

 

Which means surgery and radiotherapy are fairly useless.

 

Chemotherapy IMO is the only option, which may or may not be successful.

[MarkBR]

Need to consult an oncologist (cancer specialist) as soon as possible on treatment options.   I am not a medical doctor only a biologist, so she needs to see the cancer specialist as soon as possible in order to know how bad the diagnosis is, what the prognosis for each of the options, if there are any.

[Lacessit]

I check the internet every time for drug interactions when i am prescribed a new medication.

 

IME Thai doctors are not all that competent in collecting medical histories.

 

I've avoided a couple of potentially nasty combinations.

 

[thesetat2013]

11 hours ago, JimTripper said:

It says penis. I'm not sure why it says that.

Maybe he was shy to say he needs to know for himself?

[pacovl46]

Well, the big question is what stage it is? Since it has metastasized already, it's advanced and at least stage III, most likely stage IV. 

 

Obviously the doctor should've told her how long she's approximately got when she got the results. 

 

Without treatment she's got probably less than a year. She really needs to talk to the doctor! 

[thesetat2013]

I always check the internet before following any Thai doctors advice or recommendations. One has to consider if this is one of the man doctors licensed using a paid proxy taking their test for them or if they bribed someone to pass their test to be a doctor. 

I have had some strange diagnoses in this country that when checking with a second opinion I was told something completely different. Looking at the internet helped me choose what is most accurate. 

[ElwoodP]

Troll posts and replies removed.

Troll the medical forum again and YOU will be removed.

[BritManToo]

12 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Just trying to get an idea just how bad/lethal and how long(ish). Anyone have an educated (or semi educated) guess?

 

They are talking about chemo, but somehow this feels like a Hail Mary.

Having this happen to several neighbours and family  members (mastectomy + recurrence in 5ish years), I'm sorry to say they all died in 6-12 months from discovery of the recurrence. Yes they had chemo, no it didn't help in any way I considered worthwhile.

[Sorted2024]

Fast, mix molasses. baking soda drink 3 times daily 

 

https://ok.ru/video/5866128784

 

[KhunLA]

I think if I was in that situation, I'd go ultra alternative therapy.   Watched a few on YT, no sugar/carbs, strict proteins/fat diet, massive vit A or whatever supplement kind of stuff, and supposedly successful.

 

As BritMan2 points out, and agree, recurring & spread already, don't think I'd bother with chemo, to see if it kills the cancer before killing me therapy.   Along with living in misery the 6-12 months of your life.   Try something different, thinking outside the box, that might actually work or not, but think I'd rather try that than the chemo route.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I think if I was in that situation, I'd go ultra alternative therapy.   Watched a few on YT, no sugar/carbs, strict proteins/fat diet, massive vit A or whatever supplement kind of stuff, and supposedly successful.

 

As BritMan2 points out, and agree, recurring & spread already, don't think I'd bother with chemo, to see if it kills the cancer before killing me therapy.   Along with living in misery the 6-12 months of your life.   Try something different, thinking outside the box, that might actually work or not, but think I'd rather try that than the chemo route.

The most successful treatments with chemo are when the cancer is caught early..

 

I also suspect Thailand does not have the most advanced chemo available. In my case, I was informed the targeted inhibitor I was taking was not available in Thailand.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Sorted2024 said:

Fast, mix molasses. baking soda drink 3 times daily 

 

https://ok.ru/video/5866128784

 

Not bad if one wants Type 2 diabetes and overloaded kidneys.

[Freddy42OZ]

15 hours ago, Sandboxer said:

Wife of a friend and he is not very good with understanding complicated English.

 

Female, age 50, previously had breast cancer+ mastectomy 7 yrs ago. Recently had a lump grow in her clavicular area. It's a "well known" govt hospital which I personally would not let my dog have his nuts cut off in.

 

Below the biopsy result.

 

Obviously, I know this is bad.  Metastatic....malignant.....glandular......

 

Just trying to get an idea just how bad/lethal and how long(ish). Anyone have an educated (or semi educated) guess?

 

They are talking about chemo, but somehow this feels like a Hail Mary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uploaded the image to ChatGPT and got this response 

 

This medical report describes the results of a microscopic examination of a biopsy taken from a mass in the left supraclavicular area (above the collarbone). The key points are:

 

- **Biopsy**: A sample of tissue was taken from the mass using a needle.
- **Microscopic Examination**: The tissue sample was examined under a microscope.
- **Findings**: The examination revealed the presence of "metastatic malignant glandular epithelium."

 

### Breakdown of the Terms:

- **Metastatic**: Indicates that the cancer cells found in the biopsy have spread from another part of the body to this location (secondary cancer).
- **Malignant**: Refers to cancerous cells, which are harmful and can grow uncontrollably.
- **Glandular Epithelium**: This is the type of tissue that lines glands and other structures in the body. "Glandular" refers to the tissue that produces and releases substances like hormones or enzymes.

 

### Summary:

The biopsy shows that the mass in the left supraclavicular area contains cancerous cells that likely originated from another part of the body, indicating that the cancer has spread to this location. This is a significant finding that will likely influence the course of treatment.

[Sheryl]

Management of metastatic breast cancer has improved in recent years. It is still an ultimately fatal prognosis but some women can have years of productive life first.

 

To know if this is true of your friend's wife, additional scans and likely blood tests for genetic and other markers would be needed.  Posisbly the latter has already been done>?

 

I would suggest she and her husband have a consultation with an oncologist either in a private hospital or through the after hours channel of the government oncology hospital to discuss in more depth than is going to be possible through the public channel.

[geisha]

On 9/3/2024 at 12:16 PM, Sandboxer said:

Wife of a friend and he is not very good with understanding complicated English.

 

Female, age 50, previously had breast cancer+ mastectomy 7 yrs ago. Recently had a lump grow in her clavicular area. It's a "well known" govt hospital which I personally would not let my dog have his nuts cut off in.

 

Below the biopsy result.

 

Obviously, I know this is bad.  Metastatic....malignant.....glandular......

 

Just trying to get an idea just how bad/lethal and how long(ish). Anyone have an educated (or semi educated) guess?

 

They are talking about chemo, but somehow this feels like a Hail Mary.

 

 

 

 

Oncologist immediately, no ifs or buts.