Popular Post Social Media Posted September 5, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 5, 2024 The long-standing notion that progressives are inherently kinder and more compassionate is being turned on its head by the current Labour Government. It's time to challenge one of the biggest myths in British politics: the belief that the Left holds the moral high ground over the Right. This self-righteous belief underpins Labour’s identity and fuels its messianic attitude. Progressives often view themselves as inherently better—champions of compassion, social justice, anti-racism, altruism, and environmentalism. They contrast themselves with what they see as the heartless, greedy, and corrupt forces of the Right. However, this is a dangerous oversimplification. Labour in 2024 is rapidly transforming into the new nasty party, more focused on division than unity. Rather than promoting a moral agenda, it engages in dirty politics, manipulating and pitting different groups against each other. Its tactics often disguise self-interest as virtue and hypocrisy as ideology. Labour’s strategy of blaming Tories for “crashing the economy” and concocting myths about fiscal "black holes" reflects a deeper moral crisis. The party’s tendency to demonize anyone who disagrees is wearing thin, as evidenced by the declining popularity of its leader, Sir Keir Starmer. Labour’s abrasive tone partly stems from abandoning its historical mission of improving the lives of working-class Britons. Instead of focusing on job creation and improving living standards, it now prioritizes social re-engineering along environmental and egalitarian lines. Unlike its post-war roots, where the NHS was built to serve the people, Labour now expects people to serve the NHS, pushing policies like outdoor smoking bans that could disproportionately affect the vulnerable. The party that once fought for broader car ownership and the ability of the working class to travel now pushes policies that will price poorer drivers off the roads, at least until electric car costs drop. Ed Miliband’s aggressive push for rapid decarbonization, despite the economic impact on the poor and middle class, is another example of Labour’s misguided priorities. The rush to decarbonize, long before supporting technologies are ready, drives up energy costs without making a significant impact on global emissions. Labour has also grown wary of democracy, preferring to delegate powers to unelected bodies like the Office for Budget Responsibility, reflecting a discomfort with traditional patriotism and a reliance on international law over domestic governance. Labour’s foreign policy has also taken a hit, abandoning principles in favor of appeasing factions within its ranks. David Lammy’s decision to suspend arms export licenses to Israel a day after six Israeli hostages were killed by Hamas militants is indicative of Labour’s skewed approach. This act, which coincided with the anniversary of Britain’s historical Tiger Hill scandal, highlights a pattern of poor decision-making that seems more driven by fear of internal dissent than ethical considerations. Domestically, Labour’s policies reflect its growing detachment from the working-class values it once championed. Angela Rayner’s contemplation of ending the right-to-buy scheme for council homes, a policy she herself benefited from, underscores Labour’s inclination to deny opportunities to others. The narrative that selling council homes caused the housing crisis is misleading; Britain’s issue lies in its overall lower housing stock per capita, exacerbated by high immigration rates. Keir Starmer’s imposition of VAT on private schools and the removal of business rates relief reflect a punitive attitude towards families striving to provide better opportunities for their children. This stands in stark contrast to the advantages he himself received, such as a bursary for his education. Labour’s disregard for strivers is further exemplified by its move to scrap Ofsted’s single-word school judgments, making it harder for parents to assess school quality. Labour’s policies towards pensioners reveal a divisive generational approach. While removing winter fuel payments for pensioners could be justified given demographic pressures, Labour’s motivations seem less about fiscal responsibility and more about transferring resources to groups like train drivers, reflecting a broader generational conflict tinged with Brexit resentment. The Left’s embrace of envy-driven politics, from wealth taxes to punitive measures against private education, demonstrates a shift away from helping those in need towards punishing those it disdains. Labour’s transformation into the new nasty party is a warning of the dangers of abandoning principles in favor of divisive, punitive, and self-serving politics. Far from being the champions of compassion, today’s Labour leaders seem more focused on maintaining power through division than genuinely improving the lives of those they claim to represent. Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-06 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe 2 1 2 3
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted September 5, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Social Media said: Labour’s abrasive tone partly stems from abandoning its historical mission of improving the lives of working-class Britons. Instead of focusing on job creation and improving living standards, it now prioritizes social re-engineering along environmental and egalitarian lines. The honeymoon didn't last long. I guess Britons will have a long 4 + years to regret putting Starmer in charge. 2 4 2 2 1
Popular Post Andycoops Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 It's always those that had the advantage of such things as a bursary when given power want to remove the opportunity from future generations. Like the German immigrants son Trump. All I hear from Labour is whining and miserable statement after miserable statement. Nothing positive to be said from them at all. It's no fun living in the UK as a pensioner or for the young under 30. The abyss looms and as I left the place more than 16 years ago to retire here, I am a happy soul. 5 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 Not so much nasty, as downright dangerous. I wonder how many pensioners who have paid into the system all their lives will freeze to death this winter. Yet they have money to house illegal immigrants and send money overseas in aid. It's scary how much damage this party could do to Britain in the next 4 years. No prison places to house child rapists but they can always find a cell for someone who posted something stupid on FaceBook, especially if it is anti-immigration. I can only be grateful that I have left the place. Have they managed to extradite Musk yet for WrongSpeak? 6 1 2 1 2
MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Social Media said: The rush to decarbonize, long before supporting technologies are ready, drives up energy costs without making a significant impact on global emissions. Nah, people turn off their heating because they “can’t afford it” which results in lower carbon emissions. Simple concept. 2
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 Said many times on here Labour would be a disaster for the UK, only to have labourite or left wing supporters living here saying it was what the UK needed - probably as they did not live there and lived in ignorance. I can only hope that those old white haired labour supporters enjoy no winter heating allowance, raised council tax, single tenant council tax discount cancelled and higher utilities and die in frozen poverty. Idiots get what they voted for and that is a a drop in their living standards of at least £1,000 a year - whilst labour pay off their union cronies. 1 2 2
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Social Media said: families striving to provide better opportunities for their children. 4 hours ago, Social Media said: decision to suspend arms export licenses to Israel Which will be good for the Palestinian families striving for better opportunities for their children. Opportunities like eating, drinking clean water and going to a functioning hospital after their houses are bombed. Hyprocritical tosh from a sore loser. Labour won in a landslide 1 1 2 1 2
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: Labour in 2024 is rapidly transforming into the new nasty party, You have to be cruel to be kind. The previous government caused terrible inflation and stuffed the economy. Now it is time to pay it all back before it gets worse. Time to make Britain Great again. A strong leader is needed, not like the bunch of clowns like Boris who were previously in control. 1 2 3 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 It’s been two months since the election, The Telegraph still haven’t got over themselves about the result. Gawd, just wait for their response to the autumn budget when it comes. 3 1 1 1
Popular Post John Drake Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: David Lammy’s decision to suspend arms export licenses to Israel a day after six Israeli hostages were killed by Hamas militants is indicative of Labour’s skewed approach. Lammy looks like Idi Amin. And so does his foreign policy. 1 1 5 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 23 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Not so much nasty, as downright dangerous. I wonder how many pensioners who have paid into the system all their lives will freeze to death this winter. Yet they have money to house illegal immigrants and send money overseas in aid. It's scary how much damage this party could do to Britain in the next 4 years. No prison places to house child rapists but they can always find a cell for someone who posted something stupid on FaceBook, especially if it is anti-immigration. I can only be grateful that I have left the place. Have they managed to extradite Musk yet for WrongSpeak? The only pensioners not getting the winter fuel allowance are those with incomes above the threshold to receive all other benefits. With over 100,000 asylum seekers left as a gift by the previous government, Labour have certainly inherited assisted costs. Foreign aid, that thing even the Tories understood was means to positively influence other nations in the UK’s best interests. There was already a prison over crowding crisis months before the election of this Labour Government, I only yesterday provided you a link to a report on the matter, so a bit of studied ignorance on your part. 3 1 1 1
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 34 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Hyprocritical tosh from a sore loser. Labour won in a landslide With a massive, overwhelming, 33.7% of the vote, 411 seats! The Tory's, with 121 seats and 23.7%. Reform got 14.3% of the vote and 5 seats! A funny definition of a landslide, perhaps an indication of an extremely dysfunctional and very unrepresentative electoral system. Incidentally, what has happened to the Liberal Democrats firm championing of electoral reform to achieve proportional representation - haven't heard anything since the election, surely nothing to do with 72 seats, and a vote share smaller than that of Reform (5 seats). 2 1 1
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: With a massive, overwhelming, 33.7% of the vote, 411 seats! The Tory's, with 121 seats and 23.7%. Reform got 14.3% of the vote and 5 seats! A funny definition of a landslide, perhaps an indication of an extremely dysfunctional and very unrepresentative electoral system. Incidentally, what has happened to the Liberal Democrats firm championing of electoral reform to achieve proportional representation - haven't heard anything since the election, surely nothing to do with 72 seats, and a vote share smaller than that of Reform (5 seats). 411 to 121 is a landslide in my book. And denial is the longest river in Egypt. 1 2 1 1
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The only pensioners not getting the winter fuel allowance are those with incomes above the threshold to receive all other benefits. People are too soft these days, they want the government to nanny them. Just put on a jumper if you are cold and stop expecting everything from the taxpayers. 1 1 2
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: I can only be grateful that I have left the place. Do you think they miss you? 1 7
herfiehandbag Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: 411 to 121 is a landslide in my book. And denial is the longest river in Egypt. No denial, just a confirmed belief that our electoral system is fundamentally flawed. I have long believed in proportional representation. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, James105 said: The next 5 years will see an exodus of talented wealth generators who will be replaced by no-skilled immigrants. I don't see how the UK will recover from just a single term of these idiots. Are you sure? https://www.forbes.com/sites/philipsalter/2023/08/22/foreign-born-founders-behind-39-of-the-uks-fastest-growing-companies/ 1 1
Popular Post Watawattana Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The long-standing notion that progressives are inherently kinder and more compassionate is being turned on its head by the current Labour Government. It's time to challenge one of the biggest myths in British politics: the belief that the Left holds the moral high ground over the Right. This self-righteous belief underpins Labour’s identity and fuels its messianic attitude. Progressives often view themselves as inherently better—champions of compassion, social justice, anti-racism, altruism, and environmentalism. They contrast themselves with what they see as the heartless, greedy, and corrupt forces of the Right. However, this is a dangerous oversimplification. Labour in 2024 is rapidly transforming into the new nasty party, more focused on division than unity. Rather than promoting a moral agenda, it engages in dirty politics, manipulating and pitting different groups against each other. Its tactics often disguise self-interest as virtue and hypocrisy as ideology. Labour’s strategy of blaming Tories for “crashing the economy” and concocting myths about fiscal "black holes" reflects a deeper moral crisis. The party’s tendency to demonize anyone who disagrees is wearing thin, as evidenced by the declining popularity of its leader, Sir Keir Starmer. Labour’s abrasive tone partly stems from abandoning its historical mission of improving the lives of working-class Britons. Instead of focusing on job creation and improving living standards, it now prioritizes social re-engineering along environmental and egalitarian lines. Unlike its post-war roots, where the NHS was built to serve the people, Labour now expects people to serve the NHS, pushing policies like outdoor smoking bans that could disproportionately affect the vulnerable. The party that once fought for broader car ownership and the ability of the working class to travel now pushes policies that will price poorer drivers off the roads, at least until electric car costs drop. Ed Miliband’s aggressive push for rapid decarbonization, despite the economic impact on the poor and middle class, is another example of Labour’s misguided priorities. The rush to decarbonize, long before supporting technologies are ready, drives up energy costs without making a significant impact on global emissions. Labour has also grown wary of democracy, preferring to delegate powers to unelected bodies like the Office for Budget Responsibility, reflecting a discomfort with traditional patriotism and a reliance on international law over domestic governance. Labour’s foreign policy has also taken a hit, abandoning principles in favor of appeasing factions within its ranks. David Lammy’s decision to suspend arms export licenses to Israel a day after six Israeli hostages were killed by Hamas militants is indicative of Labour’s skewed approach. This act, which coincided with the anniversary of Britain’s historical Tiger Hill scandal, highlights a pattern of poor decision-making that seems more driven by fear of internal dissent than ethical considerations. Domestically, Labour’s policies reflect its growing detachment from the working-class values it once championed. Angela Rayner’s contemplation of ending the right-to-buy scheme for council homes, a policy she herself benefited from, underscores Labour’s inclination to deny opportunities to others. The narrative that selling council homes caused the housing crisis is misleading; Britain’s issue lies in its overall lower housing stock per capita, exacerbated by high immigration rates. Keir Starmer’s imposition of VAT on private schools and the removal of business rates relief reflect a punitive attitude towards families striving to provide better opportunities for their children. This stands in stark contrast to the advantages he himself received, such as a bursary for his education. Labour’s disregard for strivers is further exemplified by its move to scrap Ofsted’s single-word school judgments, making it harder for parents to assess school quality. Labour’s policies towards pensioners reveal a divisive generational approach. While removing winter fuel payments for pensioners could be justified given demographic pressures, Labour’s motivations seem less about fiscal responsibility and more about transferring resources to groups like train drivers, reflecting a broader generational conflict tinged with Brexit resentment. The Left’s embrace of envy-driven politics, from wealth taxes to punitive measures against private education, demonstrates a shift away from helping those in need towards punishing those it disdains. Labour’s transformation into the new nasty party is a warning of the dangers of abandoning principles in favor of divisive, punitive, and self-serving politics. Far from being the champions of compassion, today’s Labour leaders seem more focused on maintaining power through division than genuinely improving the lives of those they claim to represent. Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-06 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe OMG folks. It's the Daily Telegraph. The British equivalent of Fox News. Them writing a piece like this is as predictable as Fox bashing Kamala. Not that I disagree with the general message they are putting across. What they've done with the winter fuel allowance very much affects a significant number of oldies who are borderline poor, not tech savvy or too proud to apply for the benefit that would trigger them keeping this winter payment. I am not going to bother researching the other points made in the article to see if they are actually true or not. But let's just say they are. They highlight the typical hypocrisy and BS that all parties say or do. Every time they get it in. Whoever it is. If I could be bothered, I'd probably find the Conservatives did the same type of hypocrisy and BS. One thing I do remember well is the last Prime Minister, when he was Chancellor, allowing his wife to keep her offshore domicile tax allowances to save a shed load in taxes, and still doing nothing about that when she got found out. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas And yes, what a surprise, The Guardian is the British equivalent of MSNBC. But nobody said it wasn't true, just that she didn't break any rules or laws. By her hubby made the rules... 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 17 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Do you think they miss you? I'm sure they miss the income tax I used to pay, which now goes to the Thai government (albeit at a lower 17% rate due to my LTR visa). 1 2
mokwit Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 1 hour ago, MalcolmB said: Nah, people turn off their heating because they “can’t afford it” which results in lower carbon emissions. Simple concept. Until the CO2 generation from the cremation. 1
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted September 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 6, 2024 6 hours ago, Social Media said: The long-standing notion that progressives are inherently kinder and more compassionate is being turned on its head by the current Labour Government. It's time to challenge one of the biggest myths in British politics: the belief that the Left holds the moral high ground over the Right. This self-righteous belief underpins Labour’s identity and fuels its messianic attitude. Progressives often view themselves as inherently better—champions of compassion, social justice, anti-racism, altruism, and environmentalism. They contrast themselves with what they see as the heartless, greedy, and corrupt forces of the Right. However, this is a dangerous oversimplification. Labour in 2024 is rapidly transforming into the new nasty party, more focused on division than unity. Rather than promoting a moral agenda, it engages in dirty politics, manipulating and pitting different groups against each other. Its tactics often disguise self-interest as virtue and hypocrisy as ideology. Labour’s strategy of blaming Tories for “crashing the economy” and concocting myths about fiscal "black holes" reflects a deeper moral crisis. The party’s tendency to demonize anyone who disagrees is wearing thin, as evidenced by the declining popularity of its leader, Sir Keir Starmer. Labour’s abrasive tone partly stems from abandoning its historical mission of improving the lives of working-class Britons. Instead of focusing on job creation and improving living standards, it now prioritizes social re-engineering along environmental and egalitarian lines. Unlike its post-war roots, where the NHS was built to serve the people, Labour now expects people to serve the NHS, pushing policies like outdoor smoking bans that could disproportionately affect the vulnerable. The party that once fought for broader car ownership and the ability of the working class to travel now pushes policies that will price poorer drivers off the roads, at least until electric car costs drop. Ed Miliband’s aggressive push for rapid decarbonization, despite the economic impact on the poor and middle class, is another example of Labour’s misguided priorities. The rush to decarbonize, long before supporting technologies are ready, drives up energy costs without making a significant impact on global emissions. Labour has also grown wary of democracy, preferring to delegate powers to unelected bodies like the Office for Budget Responsibility, reflecting a discomfort with traditional patriotism and a reliance on international law over domestic governance. Labour’s foreign policy has also taken a hit, abandoning principles in favor of appeasing factions within its ranks. David Lammy’s decision to suspend arms export licenses to Israel a day after six Israeli hostages were killed by Hamas militants is indicative of Labour’s skewed approach. This act, which coincided with the anniversary of Britain’s historical Tiger Hill scandal, highlights a pattern of poor decision-making that seems more driven by fear of internal dissent than ethical considerations. Domestically, Labour’s policies reflect its growing detachment from the working-class values it once championed. Angela Rayner’s contemplation of ending the right-to-buy scheme for council homes, a policy she herself benefited from, underscores Labour’s inclination to deny opportunities to others. The narrative that selling council homes caused the housing crisis is misleading; Britain’s issue lies in its overall lower housing stock per capita, exacerbated by high immigration rates. Keir Starmer’s imposition of VAT on private schools and the removal of business rates relief reflect a punitive attitude towards families striving to provide better opportunities for their children. This stands in stark contrast to the advantages he himself received, such as a bursary for his education. Labour’s disregard for strivers is further exemplified by its move to scrap Ofsted’s single-word school judgments, making it harder for parents to assess school quality. Labour’s policies towards pensioners reveal a divisive generational approach. While removing winter fuel payments for pensioners could be justified given demographic pressures, Labour’s motivations seem less about fiscal responsibility and more about transferring resources to groups like train drivers, reflecting a broader generational conflict tinged with Brexit resentment. The Left’s embrace of envy-driven politics, from wealth taxes to punitive measures against private education, demonstrates a shift away from helping those in need towards punishing those it disdains. Labour’s transformation into the new nasty party is a warning of the dangers of abandoning principles in favor of divisive, punitive, and self-serving politics. Far from being the champions of compassion, today’s Labour leaders seem more focused on maintaining power through division than genuinely improving the lives of those they claim to represent. Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-06 Get the ASEAN NOW daily NEWSLETTER - Click HERE to subscribe Who is responsible for this load of lies? And incorrect descriptions? Starmer is transforming the country from resource saving rules to a climate neutral, job creating country. For those who live in the past and are not able to go the route into future it seems only painful. That's a poor conservative view unfortunately.😳 1 1 2
JonnyF Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 20 minutes ago, mokwit said: Until the CO2 generation from the cremation. Starmer will offset that with the following mindset. 1. They were probably Tory voters (the elderly tend to be). 2. They can get their grubby little hands on the inheritance tax (soon to be increased in his first budget). 3. Less strain on the NHS (his excuse for banning things like smoking in pub gardens).
jayboy Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: The only pensioners not getting the winter fuel allowance are those with incomes above the threshold to receive all other benefits. With over 100,000 asylum seekers left as a gift by the previous government, Labour have certainly inherited assisted costs. Foreign aid, that thing even the Tories understood was means to positively influence other nations in the UK’s best interests. There was already a prison over crowding crisis months before the election of this Labour Government, I only yesterday provided you a link to a report on the matter, so a bit of studied ignorance on your part. There are millions of pensioners just above the threshold (about £ 12,000 pa from memory) who will be very badly affected.Some will have to choose between food and heating. Meanwhile the Government i n a telling indication of its priorities has surrendered to public sector wage demands including the absurd ones for £70,000 pa train drivers. A contact of mine in Whitehall tells me No 10 is hopping mad with the Chancellor who has kowtowed to Treasury orthodoxy without considering the terrible political implications.Expect a U turn, maybe in the October budget. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, jayboy said: There are millions of pensioners just above the threshold (about £ 12,000 pa from memory) who will be very badly affected.Some will have to choose between food and heating. Meanwhile the Government i n a telling indication of its priorities has surrendered to public sector wage demands including the absurd ones for £70,000 pa train drivers. A contact of mine in Whitehall tells me No 10 is hopping mad with the Chancellor who has kowtowed to Treasury orthodoxy without considering the terrible political implications.Expect a U turn, maybe in the October budget. You perhaps aren’t aware of the range of benefits pensioners receive. Regardless, there are also large numbers of pensioners in receipt of personal and work place pensions, many with incomes above the average national wage income, taxing workers to give these people extra benefits they don’t need is clearly not tenable. 1
James105 Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, jayboy said: There are millions of pensioners just above the threshold (about £ 12,000 pa from memory) who will be very badly affected.Some will have to choose between food and heating. Meanwhile the Government i n a telling indication of its priorities has surrendered to public sector wage demands including the absurd ones for £70,000 pa train drivers. A contact of mine in Whitehall tells me No 10 is hopping mad with the Chancellor who has kowtowed to Treasury orthodoxy without considering the terrible political implications.Expect a U turn, maybe in the October budget. Before that budget there is going to be a vote in parliament on the scrapping of the winter fuel allowance - next week in fact. All of those "be kind" Labour politicians who labelled Tories as scum and the "nasty party" are going to have to vote to remove it and it will be permanently on their records. With the energy bills going up 10% and the removal of this allowance I expect this policy will actually kill some old people before their time. 1 1
James105 Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You perhaps aren’t aware of the range of benefits pensioners receive. Regardless, there are also large numbers of pensioners in receipt of personal and work place pensions, many with incomes above the average national wage income, taxing workers to give these people extra benefits they don’t need is clearly not tenable. Maybe educate yourself on the impact of this before making comments about things you don't really understand: https://www.ageuk.org.uk/our-impact/campaigning/save-the-winter-fuel-payment/ 1 1
Keep Right Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 There seems to be much remorse among the voters of this great country. The left wing socialist party of Labour is showing its true colors. 1 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 1 hour ago, James105 said: Before that budget there is going to be a vote in parliament on the scrapping of the winter fuel allowance - next week in fact. All of those "be kind" Labour politicians who labelled Tories as scum and the "nasty party" are going to have to vote to remove it and it will be permanently on their records. With the energy bills going up 10% and the removal of this allowance I expect this policy will actually kill some old people before their time. Maybe they’ll vote otherwise.
James105 Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Maybe they’ll vote otherwise. Starmer is a weak man that cannot handle criticism. He already removed the whip from 6 or 7 MPs who voted against keeping the 2 child benefit cap. He won't let them. So they will vote to kill old people this winter and it will forever be on their records.
JonnyF Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The only pensioners not getting the winter fuel allowance are those with incomes above the threshold to receive all other benefits. 12,000 per year. You think someone on a couple of thousand above that is rolling in money? Have you been to the UK lately? OAP's are going to have to choose between food and heat. An absolute disgrace. Labour used to represent these kind of people. Not any more. The fact that he was accusing the Tories of doing this just weeks before the election, and then went ahead and did it himself makes him not only a nasty piece of work, but a massive hypocrite. Although I've come to expect hypocrisy from the left. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/keir-starmer-tories-winter-fuel-raid-weeks-before-election/
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