Date of exit stamp if flight at 1a.m.? Recent experiences?

[Lorry]

Departin flight from BKK at 1a.m., will pass immigration  about 22.30 or 23.00 

What date will the immigration stamp show?

Immigration wants to see the boarding pass iirc?

 

I can find only very old and inconclusive threads about this. 

[Keeps]

Immigration will want to see your boarding pass and passport, nothing else.

 

As far as I know, the stamp in your passport will show the date you pass through immigration regardless of the time of your flight. If it was 23.50 hours on the 15th September when you pass through immigration, your departure date will be shown in your passport as 15th September regardless of your flight being at 01.00 16th September.

 

I'm sure if this is incorrect, someone will be along to put me straight. Interesting point you raise though as in theory, you are not actually departing Thailand until the day after in the example you have quoted.

[Captain Monday]

Never got a straight answer on this in the past even from our most esteemed knowledge of immigration members 

 

one thing for sure. If your flight cancels and this is 100 percent confirmed. When you are sent back immigration your exit stamp is “cancelled” . You do not get a new entry. For the “leave on the last day of permit to stay this means overstay, with a valid excuse of course 
 

Happened to me twice. Once years ago Northwest Airlines BKK and just last month Narita airport The Japanese did the same thing cancelled my exit and put me back on original permit to stay date. They called it Shukkoku Torikeshi 「出国取り消し」

 

 

[ballpoint]

The date in your passport will be the date that the immigration officer stamps it.  I've departed on a number of flights in the midnight - 01:00 time range, and the date on the stamp has always been for the day before the actual departure date.

[Lorry]

6 hours ago, ballpoint said:

The date in your passport will be the date that the immigration officer stamps it.  I've departed on a number of flights in the midnight - 01:00 time range, and the date on the stamp has always been for the day before the actual departure date.

Thx for this. 

This is even the case if you show them the boarding pass?

[Chivas]

Obviously you're asking as hard up against expiry date of visa but bear in mind you have one days grace with no 500 Baht fine anyway as its always been

 

I uploaded before my exit stamp last Christmas Day one full day over with comments wriiten in Thai translated by ex wife as "no problem" when I was stamped in until only the 24th

[Lorry]

5 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Obviously you're asking as hard up against expiry date of visa

Not at all

Counting days for tax reasons

(So, I am not interested in answers concerned about overstay fines etc)

Edited Friday at 07:21 AM by Lorry

[Chivas]

3 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Not at all

Counting days for tax reasons

(So, I am not interested in answers concerned about overstay fines etc)

 

lol well dont make the post quite so blatantly in the direction of overstay !

 

I doubt that there would be one single Asean member that would have thought your post  was for "tax reasons"

[Maestro]

1 hour ago, Lorry said:

Thx for this. 

This is even the case if you show them the boarding pass?

 

There is no question of if: without  the boarding pass, no departure stamp is given.

[Pattaya57]

1 hour ago, Lorry said:

Not at all

Counting days for tax reasons

(So, I am not interested in answers concerned about overstay fines etc)

 

You are so worried about 180 day tax rule but willing to risk leaving 1 hour before midnight on the 179th day. What if your flight's cancelled or your taxi gets a flat and you miss your flight. You'll be screwed 😉

 

Edited Friday at 08:32 AM by Pattaya57

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, Lorry said:

Thx for this. 

This is even the case if you show them the boarding pass?

 

Yes.  I always hand over the boarding pass with my passport.

 

I've always gone through immigration before 23:00 too, so don't know what time they change their stamp dates over. I imagine it would happen at midnight. 

 

Conversely, I wonder what would happen if you arrived in the country at, say, 23:00 and took your time going through arrival immigration, waiting till after midnight?  It'd probably take that long anyway, with queues, but if you got to the front and kept letting the person behind you go first until midnight, would you gain a day?

[Lorry]

3 hours ago, ballpoint said:

 

Yes.  I always hand over the boarding pass with my passport.

 

I've always gone through immigration before 23:00 too, so don't know what time they change their stamp dates over. I imagine it would happen at midnight. 

 

Conversely, I wonder what would happen if you arrived in the country at, say, 23:00 and took your time going through arrival immigration, waiting till after midnight?  It'd probably take that long anyway, with queues, but if you got to the front and kept letting the person behind you go first until midnight, would you gain a day?

Thx for your answers.

 

About your question: I went through old threads before opening this one, and at least one person posted that he got the arrival stamp for the date his flight landed. Visible from the boarding pass.

[mogandave]

I think technically, once you pass through immigration, you are out of the country.

 

[Lorry]

4 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

 

You are so worried about 180 day tax rule but willing to risk leaving 1 hour before midnight on the 179th day. What if your flight's cancelled or your taxi gets a flat and you miss your flight. You'll be screwed 😉

 

You are right, of course. 

In my case,  I don't need to absolutel leave on day 179 for tax reasons - it wouldn't be a big problem to leave later and be a tax resident in 2024. A bit inconvenient, and may cost me a couple of hundred dollar.

But it happens that my planned flight would be on day 180, so it wouldn't hurt to leave on day 179 - a bit inconvenient, too, and cost 100 dollar. 

 

So I wanted to know what to expect. Ballpoint's answer helped me.

[DrJack54]

10 hours ago, Lorry said:

You are right, of course. 

In my case,  I don't need to absolutel leave on day 179 for tax reasons - it wouldn't be a big problem to leave later and be a tax resident in 2024. A bit inconvenient, and may cost me a couple of hundred dollar.

But it happens that my planned flight would be on day 180, so it wouldn't hurt to leave on day 179 - a bit inconvenient, too, and cost 100 dollar. 

 

So I wanted to know what to expect. Ballpoint's answer helped me.

For heavens sake. 

Surely you can stay few days short of 180 days with alternative flight.

As posted by others the assumption from your OP would be concern with one day overstay.

 

 

[mogandave]

25 minutes ago, Lorry said:

You are right, of course. 

In my case,  I don't need to absolutel leave on day 179 for tax reasons - it wouldn't be a big problem to leave later and be a tax resident in 2024. A bit inconvenient, and may cost me a couple of hundred dollar.

But it happens that my planned flight would be on day 180, so it wouldn't hurt to leave on day 179 - a bit inconvenient, too, and cost 100 dollar. 

 

So I wanted to know what to expect. Ballpoint's answer helped me.

just don’t go through immigration until 12:01

[sungod]

If leaving a few days early would save you thousands, then its a really silly question.

 

Come to that, if saving a few hundred dollars is you angle, then once again a very silly question.

 

So, to sum it up. Stupid question.

[DrJack54]

OP question covered.

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