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The Dutch government has revealed plans for what is being called the most stringent asylum policy in the European Union. Announced on Friday, this initiative is part of the ruling coalition's agenda and includes strict border controls, punishment for "troublemakers," and significant limitations on family reunification. Under the proposed regulations, adult children would no longer be allowed to join their parents, and forced deportations would become a major focus.

 

The new Dutch government, led by the far-right Freedom Party of Geert Wilders, marks a significant shift in the country's approach to immigration. Wilders' party won nearly 25% of the seats in the Dutch parliament in November, positioning it to have a strong influence on policy. The party’s influence extends to the appointment of Marjolein Faber as the migration and asylum minister. “I’m aiming for the strictest asylum policy ever,” Faber said in a video message, explaining that bottlenecks in housing, health care, and education were the primary motivations for these measures.

 

Faber went on to explain that her plan includes “legally declaring an asylum crisis,” a move that would allow the government to bypass parliamentary approval for certain measures. This emergency law would give the government the authority to enact policies quickly in response to what it perceives as an overwhelming asylum situation. “The Netherlands should belong to the category of member states with the strictest admission rules in the EU,” reads the government’s official program.

 

Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof confirmed that the government plans to request an opt-out from the European Union's current asylum and migration policies, with the request set to be delivered to Brussels next week. Defending the government's approach, Schoof stated, “We cannot continue to bear the large influx of migrants to our country. People are experiencing an asylum crisis.”

 

However, Schoof avoided setting a target for how much the government hopes to reduce migration. Instead, he suggested that the country’s asylum situation would be monitored closely to determine when the emergency law might be needed. Faber expressed her determination to overhaul the asylum process, saying she plans to end indefinite permits, shorten the application process, drastically limit family reunification, and speed up deportations of “criminal asylum seekers.”

 

Housing laws are also expected to change under the new program, which aims to prevent asylum seekers who have received residence permits from automatically getting priority access to social housing. This measure is intended to reduce pressure on the housing market.

 

Opposition to the proposed policies has been swift. Critics, including members of the opposition and civil society, have called the emergency law undemocratic. The Dutch Council for Refugees voiced concerns that “refugees would pay a high price” under the new rules. The organization contended that the country’s current asylum problems are the result of political decisions rather than an actual crisis. “There is no unexpectedly large number of asylum seekers in The Netherlands. No force majeure, but political unwillingness,” said the refugee council.

 

Credit: Politico 2024-09-16

 

 

 

[jippytum]

Very welcome but too little to late. Immigrants are entrenched in every European country due to lax controls and open door illegal immigration. 

[Tailwagsdog]

52 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Very welcome but too little to late. Immigrants are entrenched in every European country due to lax controls and open door illegal immigration. 

Not in Poland & Hungary, 2 countries that consider the wellbeing of its citizens and preservation of its culture to have priority over hordes of illegal gatecrashers polluting and disfiguring their society.

[spidermike007]

You absolutely have to insist on assimilation and you have to make a staged approach to asylum based on an immigrants ability to prove that they're assimilating into society. 

 

I advocate that any Muslim family with a teenage daughter prove that she's participated in a two piece bikini contest in public by the age of 16 and that their teenage sons have no affiliation whatsoever with local Madrasas, or Mullahs preaching extremism. You want to live here, show us, and demonstrate that you will not remain culturally isolated, and will make an effort to move into the 21st century. If not, there shall be immediate consequences.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

48 minutes ago, Tailwagsdog said:

Not in Poland & Hungary, 2 countries that consider the wellbeing of its citizens and preservation of its culture to have priority over hordes of illegal gatecrashers polluting and disfiguring their society.

 

   Lucky Thailand isn't the same , otherwise many ex-pats would be kicked out of Thailand 

[mikeymike100]

The Netherlands definitely has the right idea, deportations will be the order of the day!

Other European countries apart from Poland and Hungary are in deep doo doo, over their policies, including the UK of course, which is no longer in Europe.

[stevenl]

I don't think this will be allowed. They're attempting to bypass parliament and be exempt from EU regulations.

Both very likely a no go.

[JonnyF]

Better late than never.

 

Hopefully other European countries follow Mr Wilders on this. 

[Chomper Higgot]

So erm…. Being a member of the EU didn’t stop the Dutch from enacting these measures.

 

 

[morrobay]

Many countries in Europe are occupied. The only move now is to round them up, revoke citizenship, and put them on a boat back to bum f **k Egypt. Standby, Trump is going to show ya all how to do it

[James105]

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So erm…. Being a member of the EU didn’t stop the Dutch from enacting these measures.

 

 

 

They haven't enacted it yet.  Hungary was fined 200m euros and a 1m euro fine a day for not allowing cultural enrichment into their country.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clww729180po

 

So erm... being a member of the EU will cost them, but it is an absolute bargain in comparison to how much illegal immigrants cost a country both financially and socially.   

[HK MacPhooey]

59 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't think this will be allowed. They're attempting to bypass parliament and be exempt from EU regulations.

Both very likely a no go.

Nexit will very likely be a go if the EUSSR try to prevent the will of the Dutch People in deciding their country's immigration policy

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, Tailwagsdog said:

Not in Poland & Hungary, 2 countries that consider the wellbeing of its citizens and preservation of its culture to have priority over hordes of illegal gatecrashers polluting and disfiguring their society.

Like we do to the Thais.

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

The Dutch government has revealed plans for what is being called the most stringent asylum policy in the European Union

It should be adopted by all countries. 

 

The world has gone mad, this open door policy (or similar) doesn't work, some nationalities can't/won't assimilate in other countries, they misbehave, behave inappropriately, then we see riots.

The Sydney Cronulla riots is a good example and there was the recent unrest in the UK, now some are calling these poor people who have been antagonized and provoked, 'FAR RIGHT'. 

 

People just want their normal society back. 

 

 

 

Edited September 16 by SAFETY FIRST

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You want to live here,

Where are you?

Here? 
 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You absolutely have to insist on assimilation

Says the long termer in Thailand who complains about all the Thai rules and regulations daily  and who can not read or write Thai after many years.

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Nexit will very likely be a go if the EUSSR try to prevent the will of the Dutch People in deciding their country's immigration policy

Nexit seems unlikely.

There is also the issue of using an emergency decree to keep parliament out of this. Very likely st least one of the coalition partners will not accept that, and i think also the courts will disagree.

Edited September 16 by stevenl

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

some nationalities can't assimilate in other countries, they misbehave then we see riots, the Sydney Cronulla riots

Was that the aborigines rioting or was it one group of immigrants fighting another group of immigrants? 

[SAFETY FIRST]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Was that the aborigines rioting or was it one group of immigrants fighting another group of immigrants? 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

 

The aboriginals are OK, they live in society, getting drunk and disorderly like most foreigners in Pattaya. 😂

 

Sad thing is, they get what they demand, nothing refused (except grog), now everyone wants to be aboriginal. 🪃

 

Edited September 16 by SAFETY FIRST

[newbee2022]

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

The Dutch government has revealed plans for what is being called the most stringent asylum policy in the European Union. Announced on Friday, this initiative is part of the ruling coalition's agenda and includes strict border controls, punishment for "troublemakers," and significant limitations on family reunification. Under the proposed regulations, adult children would no longer be allowed to join their parents, and forced deportations would become a major focus.

 

The new Dutch government, led by the far-right Freedom Party of Geert Wilders, marks a significant shift in the country's approach to immigration. Wilders' party won nearly 25% of the seats in the Dutch parliament in November, positioning it to have a strong influence on policy. The party’s influence extends to the appointment of Marjolein Faber as the migration and asylum minister. “I’m aiming for the strictest asylum policy ever,” Faber said in a video message, explaining that bottlenecks in housing, health care, and education were the primary motivations for these measures.

 

Faber went on to explain that her plan includes “legally declaring an asylum crisis,” a move that would allow the government to bypass parliamentary approval for certain measures. This emergency law would give the government the authority to enact policies quickly in response to what it perceives as an overwhelming asylum situation. “The Netherlands should belong to the category of member states with the strictest admission rules in the EU,” reads the government’s official program.

 

Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof confirmed that the government plans to request an opt-out from the European Union's current asylum and migration policies, with the request set to be delivered to Brussels next week. Defending the government's approach, Schoof stated, “We cannot continue to bear the large influx of migrants to our country. People are experiencing an asylum crisis.”

 

 

However, Schoof avoided setting a target for how much the government hopes to reduce migration. Instead, he suggested that the country’s asylum situation would be monitored closely to determine when the emergency law might be needed. Faber expressed her determination to overhaul the asylum process, saying she plans to end indefinite permits, shorten the application process, drastically limit family reunification, and speed up deportations of “criminal asylum seekers.”

 

Housing laws are also expected to change under the new program, which aims to prevent asylum seekers who have received residence permits from automatically getting priority access to social housing. This measure is intended to reduce pressure on the housing market.

 

Opposition to the proposed policies has been swift. Critics, including members of the opposition and civil society, have called the emergency law undemocratic. The Dutch Council for Refugees voiced concerns that “refugees would pay a high price” under the new rules. The organization contended that the country’s current asylum problems are the result of political decisions rather than an actual crisis. “There is no unexpectedly large number of asylum seekers in The Netherlands. No force majeure, but political unwillingness,” said the refugee council.

 

Credit: Politico 2024-09-16

 

 

 

And here's the thing: calling a state of emergency would have to be accepted by EU. And it's only possible for a limited time if citizens of Netherland would be in danger.

This is not the case. And as far as I know by lawyers this "new law" can't be implemented, because it's illegal. This is why Germany didn't start to go that way.

A solution is possible by changing EU laws, which is a long way.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

They haven't enacted it yet.  Hungary was fined 200m euros and a 1m euro fine a day for not allowing cultural enrichment into their country.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clww729180po

 

So erm... being a member of the EU will cost them, but it is an absolute bargain in comparison to how much illegal immigrants cost a country both financially and socially.   

Have they paid?

[JonnyF]

39 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Like we do to the Thais.

 

Speak for yourself.

 

I have fully legal visa status. I pay my taxes. I follow the laws of the country. I do not pollute or disfigure the society. I respect the culture and do not try to change it. 

[JonnyF]

38 minutes ago, stevenl said:

There is also the issue of using an emergency decree to keep parliament out of this. Very likely st least one of the coalition partners will not accept that, and i think also the courts will disagree.

 

Let's hope the EU tries to stop this with it's steel boot of left wing authoritarianism. 

 

The feeling in the Netherlands is strong. If they feel the EU is forcing them to accept the cultural enrichers then that could be the tipping point to Nexit. 

[stevenl]

53 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Let's hope the EU tries to stop this with it's steel boot of left wing authoritarianism. 

 

The feeling in the Netherlands is strong. If they feel the EU is forcing them to accept the cultural enrichers then that could be the tipping point to Nexit. 

Glad to see you understand the Dutch sentiment so well.

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Glad to see you understand the Dutch sentiment so well.

 

Always good to stay informed and not remain in little echo chambers. You should try it. 

 

I follow it very closely. That's why I wasn't surprised when they elected Wilders. 

[biggles45]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Lucky Thailand isn't the same , otherwise many ex-pats would be kicked out of Thailand

 

Really, Enter Thailand illegally, or overstay, and you go to the detention Centre and get deported. No free accom, food or cash given out here

[stevenl]

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Always good to stay informed and not remain in little echo chambers. You should try it. 

 

I follow it very closely. That's why I wasn't surprised when they elected Wilders. 

I stay updated daily.
Let's just say I agree with this "The feeling in the Netherlands is strong.". Don't think we;d agree on what kind of feeling though.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

I have fully legal visa status. I pay my taxes. I follow the laws of the country. I do not pollute or disfigure the society. I respect the culture and do not try to change it. 

Because the Thais gave you a visa. 

[Pouatchee]

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

Housing laws are also expected to change under the new program, which aims to prevent asylum seekers who have received residence permits from automatically getting priority access to social housing. This measure is intended to reduce pressure on the housing market.

 

i hope trudeau gets kicked out and along with him the immigrants in canada

 

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'The housing crisis is not the immigration crisis,' Quebec City mayor says. Quebec City Mayor Bruno Marchand and federal Immigration Minister Marc Miller push back on Premier François Legault saying "100 per cent" of Quebec's housing crisis is due to the number of temporary immigrants in the province.Jun 19, 2024

 

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In the year after they arrived in Canada, the vast majority of refugee claimants lived in one of four provinces: Ontario (53% to 70% depending on the year), Quebec (20% to 35%), British Columbia (3% to 8%), and Alberta (2% to 6%).

Rates of social assistance receipt were generally highest among refugee claimants in Ontario and Quebec (Chart 2). For example, among those who arrived in 2010, rates of social assistance receipt were 84% in Ontario and 79% in Quebec. In British Columbia and Alberta, the rates were 57% and 48%, respectively.

 

 

not only is trudeau, a leftist gvt, responsible for the housing crisis with his open door policy but he is also responsible for our tax dollars paying for these migrants so they can suck up our resources that would be better spent on our own canadian homeless... imho opinion... the netherlands are on to something

Edited September 16 by Pouatchee

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

 

The aboriginals are OK, they live in society, getting drunk and disorderly like most foreigners in Pattaya. 😂

 

Sad thing is, they get what they demand, nothing refused (except grog), now everyone wants to be aboriginal. 🪃

 

So it was one group of immigrants (farangs) who would not assimilate with the local population (aboriginal)  fighting another group of immigrants (middle eastern) who would not assimilate.

 

[JonnyF]

15 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Because the Thais gave you a visa. 

 

They didn't "give" me anything. 

 

My LTR visa cost around 50,000 Baht and had very strict eligibility criteria. 

 

Try entering Thailand illegally and report back on what the Thai's "give" you.