1 hour ago, transam said:

Not interested, ANYONE in control of the USA is better than your nutter, a crook, a robber. 

But if that is your thing, then you carry on chap, it is amusing.......................🤭

ROFLOL - the People of USA will decide who is POTUS - not you or me.

Delusions of grandeur maybe - or are you saying Putin would be better than Trump??

You did say ANYONE - so how about Ali Hosseini Khamenei (Iran Dictator)??

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

I think you need to brush up on your understanding of what it is to gerrymander:

 

ger·ry·man·der

/ˈjerēˌmandər/

 

verb

gerund or present participle: gerrymandering

1. manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.

   • achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.

     "a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

     https://www.google.com/search?q=gerrymandering&oq=gerrymandering&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDMwODVqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

      

     Murdering your opponents and journalists  is not actually entailed under the definition of gerrymandering. 

 

You did go to school right? And you can read, right??

I said "he has 'ensured' his continued stay via electoral changes advantageous to himself"

Try again buddy - you seem to not be able to read and understand words - I bet you dont listen either.

 

Let me try to 'educate' you - something clearly lacking in your past.

I said "he has 'ensured' his continued stay via electoral changes advantageous to himself" (gerrymandering)

You COULD have said -  'Yes he did that AND he also had opponents/critics killed by all accounts."

I WOULD then have said - "Seems very likely, but that is why he gerrymandered the elections because of the growing discontent about his actions. 

You COULD have then said - "He is only popular again now because he invaded Ukraine".

I WOULD then have said - "Touche".

Understand??  That is a logical and rational discussion and exchanges of ideas.  This is NOT.

 

Me - Trump delivered a strong economy and tried to secure the border and would have stopped Putin dead in his tracks. 

You - Trump is an evil orange hitler who should be in jail !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I said "he has 'ensured' his continued stay via electoral changes advantageous to himself"

Try again buddy - you seem to not be able to read and understand words - I bet you dont listen either.

 

Escalator language all the time.....just no need for it.

16 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You did go to school right? And you can read, right??

I said "he has 'ensured' his continued stay via electoral changes advantageous to himself"

Try again buddy - you seem to not be able to read and understand words - I bet you dont listen either.

 

Let me try to 'educate' you - something clearly lacking in your past.

I said "he has 'ensured' his continued stay via electoral changes advantageous to himself" (gerrymandering)

You COULD have said -  'Yes he did that AND he also had opponents/critics killed by all accounts."

I WOULD then have said - "Seems very likely, but that is why he gerrymandered the elections because of the growing discontent about his actions. 

You COULD have then said - "He is only popular again now because he invaded Ukraine".

I WOULD then have said - "Touche".

Understand??  That is a logical and rational discussion and exchanges of ideas.  This is NOT.

 

Me - Trump delivered a strong economy and tried to secure the border and would have stopped Putin dead in his tracks. 

You - Trump is an evil orange hitler who should be in jail !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You clearly still don't understand the definition of gerrymandering. It's about manipulating the boundaries of a constituency to favor a party or a class. In other words geographical manipulation. Would you wrongly characterize as gerrymandering has nothing to do with that. 

3 hours ago, Steven55 said:

 

Just so you know. Take a look at the NATO boundary in 2000 and again as of 2022 when Putin invaded Ukraine.

This is NATO in 1990. The Warsaw Pact members (pink) all joined NATO.  

This was NATO in 2022

The main reason (not the only one) Putin invaded Ukraine was that NATO had constantly ignored their 'agreement' with Russia not to expand to the East. As per this article written by a left wing news media outlet (The Guardian) one month before Russia invaded Ukraine, the constant expansion of NATO after the USSR was abolished, was a huge problem with Russia.

Russia’s belief in Nato ‘betrayal’ – and why it matters today | Russia | The Guardian

 

The 'final straw' was when Ukraine and NATO started formal negotiations for Ukraine joining NATO in January 2022 - meaning that NATO would have the ability to place nuclear and other weapons right on the Russian border. The USA and USSR nearly went to war when USSR tried to place nuclear missiles in Cuba many decades ago - same same.

 

The hawkish military powers in USA funded and pushed NATO to expand - Russia (Putin) warned NATO and USA for many years to keep Ukraine as a 'buffer' between Russia and NATO. NATO/USA thought he was bluffing - Putin was not. And if Zelensky sends a ballistic missile into Moscow, the world will be at WW3 because Putin has said he will respond and nuclear weapons are on the table - the nuclear weapons off Russia have been on 'ready alert' since 2022. If you are silly enough to think that WW3 will be USA/NATO versus Russia - think again - China is a very close and strong ally of Russia - and so are many of the Arab States. 

 

Want to stop WW3?  Elect Trump !!  The Democrats are locked and loaded with Ukraine and are prepared to start WW3 with their stupidity. You think Harris is going to sort this out - or Israel?  Trump is the only rational and logical choice as POTUS. Save the planet - ignore Greta - and vote for Trump !!!

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You clearly still don't understand the definition of gerrymandering. It's about manipulating the boundaries of a constituency to favor a party or a class. In other words geographical manipulation. Would you wrongly characterize as gerrymandering has nothing to do with that. 

Good God - you are incapable of being educated - no more wasting my time. 

 

3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Good God - you are incapable of being educated - no more wasting my time. 

 

And you are incapable of understanding definitions.

11 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

 

Just so you know. Take a look at the NATO boundary in 2000 and again as of 2022 when Putin invaded Ukraine.

This is NATO in 1990. The Warsaw Pact members (pink) all joined NATO.  

This was NATO in 2022

The main reason (not the only one) Putin invaded Ukraine was that NATO had constantly ignored their 'agreement' with Russia not to expand to the East. As per this article written by a left wing news media outlet (The Guardian) one month before Russia invaded Ukraine, the constant expansion of NATO after the USSR was abolished, was a huge problem with Russia.

Russia’s belief in Nato ‘betrayal’ – and why it matters today | Russia | The Guardian

 

The 'final straw' was when Ukraine and NATO started formal negotiations for Ukraine joining NATO in January 2022 - meaning that NATO would have the ability to place nuclear and other weapons right on the Russian border. The USA and USSR nearly went to war when USSR tried to place nuclear missiles in Cuba many decades ago - same same.

 

The hawkish military powers in USA funded and pushed NATO to expand - Russia (Putin) warned NATO and USA for many years to keep Ukraine as a 'buffer' between Russia and NATO. NATO/USA thought he was bluffing - Putin was not. And if Zelensky sends a ballistic missile into Moscow, the world will be at WW3 because Putin has said he will respond and nuclear weapons are on the table - the nuclear weapons off Russia have been on 'ready alert' since 2022. If you are silly enough to think that WW3 will be USA/NATO versus Russia - think again - China is a very close and strong ally of Russia - and so are many of the Arab States. 

 

Want to stop WW3?  Elect Trump !!  The Democrats are locked and loaded with Ukraine and are prepared to start WW3 with their stupidity. You think Harris is going to sort this out - or Israel?  Trump is the only rational and logical choice as POTUS. Save the planet - ignore Greta - and vote for Trump !!!

 

 

All those countries tricked and forced into joining NATO....totally despicable.....especially when you consider they had a much better option to the East. 

 

 

 

46 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

ROFLOL - the People of USA will decide who is POTUS - not you or me.

Delusions of grandeur maybe - or are you saying Putin would be better than Trump??

You did say ANYONE - so how about Ali Hosseini Khamenei (Iran Dictator)??

You seem to post a lot on the subject, but alas overcomplicate a word.......🙄

4 hours ago, Steven55 said:

Reading and understanding, and then coming up with a logical answer probably isn't your strongest quality.... OMG, shocking!
Something 'else': Would any integer person vote for failed business men and cheater like this? Trump has been cheating in nearly every business deal:

 

Sounds like a disgruntled Trump hater to me 

No contracts showing the terms.  No bank deposits.  Only his side of the story.

 

About as credible as The View.

1 hour ago, transam said:

You seem to post a lot on the subject, but alas overcomplicate a word.......🙄

No answer to a straight question - as is atypical of Dems supporters - all feelings and no logic.

 

Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said:

No answer to a straight question - as is atypical of Dems supporters - all feelings and no logic.

 

You posted nonsense regarding my word, 'anyone'..........

5 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

 

Just so you know. Take a look at the NATO boundary in 2000 and again as of 2022 when Putin invaded Ukraine.

This is NATO in 1990. The Warsaw Pact members (pink) all joined NATO.  

This was NATO in 2022

The main reason (not the only one) Putin invaded Ukraine was that NATO had constantly ignored their 'agreement' with Russia not to expand to the East. As per this article written by a left wing news media outlet (The Guardian) one month before Russia invaded Ukraine, the constant expansion of NATO after the USSR was abolished, was a huge problem with Russia.

Russia’s belief in Nato ‘betrayal’ – and why it matters today | Russia | The Guardian

 

The 'final straw' was when Ukraine and NATO started formal negotiations for Ukraine joining NATO in January 2022 - meaning that NATO would have the ability to place nuclear and other weapons right on the Russian border. The USA and USSR nearly went to war when USSR tried to place nuclear missiles in Cuba many decades ago - same same.

 

The hawkish military powers in USA funded and pushed NATO to expand - Russia (Putin) warned NATO and USA for many years to keep Ukraine as a 'buffer' between Russia and NATO. NATO/USA thought he was bluffing - Putin was not. And if Zelensky sends a ballistic missile into Moscow, the world will be at WW3 because Putin has said he will respond and nuclear weapons are on the table - the nuclear weapons off Russia have been on 'ready alert' since 2022. If you are silly enough to think that WW3 will be USA/NATO versus Russia - think again - China is a very close and strong ally of Russia - and so are many of the Arab States. 

 

Want to stop WW3?  Elect Trump !!  The Democrats are locked and loaded with Ukraine and are prepared to start WW3 with their stupidity. You think Harris is going to sort this out - or Israel?  Trump is the only rational and logical choice as POTUS. Save the planet - ignore Greta - and vote for Trump !!!

Your post sounded better in the original Russian.

19 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

 

Just so you know. Take a look at the NATO boundary in 2000 and again as of 2022 when Putin invaded Ukraine.

This is NATO in 1990. The Warsaw Pact members (pink) all joined NATO.  

This was NATO in 2022

The main reason (not the only one) Putin invaded Ukraine was that NATO had constantly ignored their 'agreement' with Russia not to expand to the East. As per this article written by a left wing news media outlet (The Guardian) one month before Russia invaded Ukraine, the constant expansion of NATO after the USSR was abolished, was a huge problem with Russia.

Russia’s belief in Nato ‘betrayal’ – and why it matters today | Russia | The Guardian

 

The 'final straw' was when Ukraine and NATO started formal negotiations for Ukraine joining NATO in January 2022 - meaning that NATO would have the ability to place nuclear and other weapons right on the Russian border. The USA and USSR nearly went to war when USSR tried to place nuclear missiles in Cuba many decades ago - same same.

 

The hawkish military powers in USA funded and pushed NATO to expand - Russia (Putin) warned NATO and USA for many years to keep Ukraine as a 'buffer' between Russia and NATO. NATO/USA thought he was bluffing - Putin was not. And if Zelensky sends a ballistic missile into Moscow, the world will be at WW3 because Putin has said he will respond and nuclear weapons are on the table - the nuclear weapons off Russia have been on 'ready alert' since 2022. If you are silly enough to think that WW3 will be USA/NATO versus Russia - think again - China is a very close and strong ally of Russia - and so are many of the Arab States. 

 

Want to stop WW3?  Elect Trump !!  The Democrats are locked and loaded with Ukraine and are prepared to start WW3 with their stupidity. You think Harris is going to sort this out - or Israel?  Trump is the only rational and logical choice as POTUS. Save the planet - ignore Greta - and vote for Trump !!!

Mr TroubleandGrumpy is ignorant and biased: Russia was NOT afraid of NATO. Finland became member of the NATO... NO RUSSIAN TROOPS were sent to that border (1340km). (OOPS... TroubleandGrumpy has never realized that... get it now???)  Investigate and think FIRST, before you post disinformation. Without checking, you post what Putin has said. You are a useful .... for Putin.

Mr TroubleandGrumpy is ignorant and blindly accepts the narrative of Putin: THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT that former Warsaw Pact members could NOT be member of Nato, as Gorbachev has said https://www.brookings.edu/articles/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/
The only agreement that has been made, was that NO foreign troops would be stationed in the former GDR.

And Israel??? Trump promised in 2016 to solve that problem... he completely failed and made it worse by blowing up the nuclear deal with Iran, which made Iran turn more hostile towards Israel and the West.

And NATO did NOT expand to the East: the East-European countries begged to become member of Nato (that is something different, but I bet you are not able to understand this difference), becasue Russia showed to be unreliable.

The cause of all the problems with Russia is the change of Putin's attitude: at first he was a pro-European democratic leader, but he has turned into a dictator who wants to restore the Great Russian Empire.

21 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

OK that is enough of a first step (sort of).

Now read my posts slowly and maybe you will see/hear what I actually said. 

Take your emotions out of it - give it a try.

I am not asking you to agree - but I do want you to listen/read to the point I made and respond rationally and logically.

No 'Trump is Bad' or 'Putin is Evil' emotional baggage please.

 

The completely INSANE action of the Reps to accept Trump as candidate is mind-boggling. He is a candidate, whom half of the Americans find despicable.
Any Rep president in the past has been accepted as 'ok' by most of the Dems.
Several other Rep candidates, eg Pence, wouldn't have divided the US people.
 

22 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You think whatever the MSM and Dems tell you - deluded so much you cannot see a point.

It was 24 years ago when Putin was elected and he was very popular - he did not 'take over' like Hitler. 

TroubleandGrumpy, Come over to my condominium building in Thailand and talk with my Russian neighbour: He said: Putin is mafia, a thief, a murderer, a short man who wants to be a macho.
Oh, and you know that about 1 million Russian people fled Russia, because of your 'popular' Putin?
Broaden your horizon and get info from more sources.

 

7 hours ago, Steven55 said:

TroubleandGrumpy, Come over to my condominium building in Thailand and talk with my Russian neighbour: He said: Putin is mafia, a thief, a murderer, a short man who wants to be a macho.
Oh, and you know that about 1 million Russian people fled Russia, because of your 'popular' Putin?
Broaden your horizon and get info from more sources.

 One man’s opinion?

 

Look at the Trump haters on the forum   They say the exact same things about Trump.

 

Broaden your horizons and stop listening to one man’s opinion.

On 9/18/2024 at 12:09 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I have never met the man but that does not stop me from going to social media to say he is great.

 

The man is flawed but his message and values and policies are great for USA and the World.

 

He is essentially 'anti-woke' and 'anti-globalist' and 'anti-progressive liberal' and 'anti-radical minority groups' who are tearing down western values and morals.

Plus he is going to 'drain the swamp' when he is elected POTUS - he was distracted and fooled last time - but this time he will hit the ground running and take them down.

Trying to get the alligators to voluntarily leave the swamp was foolish - the only solution is to drain the swamp and then permanently remove them. 

He is going to make Javier Milei (Argentina) look like a librarian - Trump is going to tear it all down so that they can never again re-buiild it.

 

Sure - if you are a woke liberal and you support Palestine, Illegal Immigrants and other radical minorities, and you are a globalist (socialist) who loves the UN and EU, and leaders like Macron, Trudea, Starmer, Scholz, and Albanese etc etc, and unelected socialists like Von Der Leyen, António Guterres and Schwab etc etc. -  then you will hate what Trump is going to do.  But I think that the majority are going to see through the media lies and how much a disaster another 4 (or even 8 ) years of Bidenomics would be. 

 

And best of all - he can dodge a bullet - even Reagan could not do that 😁

 

Troll

26 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 One man’s opinion?

 

Look at the Trump haters on the forum   They say the exact same things about Trump.

 

Broaden your horizons and stop listening to one man’s opinion.

 

Don't you just listen to Trump?

 

How are you any different in that respect?

 

 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Don't you just listen to Trump?

 

How are you any different in that respect?

 

 

No, I listen to many.  Just not liberals.  They have ruined America.

 

 

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

No, I listen to many.  Just not liberals.  They have ruined America.

 

 

 

 

 

How have they ruined America?

 

 

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

How have they ruined America?

 

 

Been stated numerous times.  Do your research.  
 

Of course being a non American.  You wouldn’t understand. 

On 9/18/2024 at 12:09 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

And best of all - he can dodge a bullet - even Reagan could not do that 😁

 

 

Assuming he "dodged" a bullet in Pennsylvania - though it tore through one ear - Trump might wish that he hadn't post 2024 election, when the only light at the end of the tunnel he could see will be from the sole light bulb in his jail cell

1 hour ago, watthong said:

 

Assuming he "dodged" a bullet in Pennsylvania - though it tore through one ear - Trump might wish that he hadn't post 2024 election, when the only light at the end of the tunnel he could see will be from the sole light bulb in his jail cell

Numerous times daily for years we have been hearing the lunatics of the left like rabid dogs vigorously claiming Trump is going to jail (prison).

 

Well, he’s not there now despite all the Kangaroo court convictions. A felon to boot.

 

So when is he going?  It would have to be during or after his soon to be Presidency.

 

So lunatics of the left,  when will it happen?

 

And what makes you so sure?

7 hours ago, G_Money said:

Numerous times daily for years we have been hearing the lunatics of the left like rabid dogs vigorously claiming Trump is going to jail (prison).

 

Well, he’s not there now despite all the Kangaroo court convictions. A felon to boot.

 

So when is he going?  It would have to be during or after his soon to be Presidency.

 

So lunatics of the left,  when will it happen?

 

And what makes you so sure?

The Loonies procured 4 dem prosecutors to perform lawfare against their political opposition. Never done before in our country! Its a kin to communist Stalin

tactics, disposing of one’s political opponents.

https://mises.org/mises-wire/five-stages-totalitarianism

10 hours ago, G_Money said:

Numerous times daily for years we have been hearing the lunatics of the left like rabid dogs vigorously claiming Trump is going to jail (prison).

 

Well, he’s not there now despite all the Kangaroo court convictions. A felon to boot.

 

So when is he going?  It would have to be during or after his soon to be Presidency.

 

So lunatics of the left,  when will it happen?

 

And what makes you so sure?

Very funny......

 

This morning I see your lying hero has been buried yet again, this morning, which again is very funny. 

I do wonder if you got your antics from the loony ex prezzy........😊

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/60-minutes-issues-searing-statement-023615371.html

48 minutes ago, transam said:

Very funny......

 

This morning I see your lying hero has been buried yet again, this morning, which again is very funny. 

I do wonder if you got your antics from the loony ex prezzy........😊

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/60-minutes-issues-searing-statement-023615371.html

 
Typical deflection.

 

Can’t answer the question so come up with some other BS.

 

When is Donny going to prison for his alleged crimes?

Who in the heck follows Yahoo nowadays?  Oh. You do.  Explains everything.

 

25 minutes ago, G_Money said:

 
Typical deflection.

 

Can’t answer the question so come up with some other BS.

 

When is Donny going to prison for his alleged crimes?

Who in the heck follows Yahoo nowadays?  Oh. You do.  Explains everything.

 

 

 

Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Finance, and Yahoo Sports......... While specific follower counts or active user numbers are harder to pinpoint, Yahoo Finance has tens of millions of monthly visitors, and Yahoo Sports also draws substantial audiences, particularly for major events like the Olympics or NFL games. The platform remains highly visited.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Finance, and Yahoo Sports......... While specific follower counts or active user numbers are harder to pinpoint, Yahoo Finance has tens of millions of monthly visitors, and Yahoo Sports also draws substantial audiences, particularly for major events like the Olympics or NFL games. The platform remains highly visited.

 

 

By yourself and transam aka the left.

 

Enough said 

 

Can Yahoo predict when Trump will be in prison?

Seeing how none of the experts on the left can.