Information requested with regard to 800000 Baht in bank for retirement visa

[Delight]

Have the circumstances changed?

 

It seems that evidence that 800K has been in the applicants bank account  for 2 months-prior to application date is unchanged.

Historically a 2 nd visit with  a  similar letter was required 3 months after the application was approved.

It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required.

Is this the case?

[Upnotover]

Not every office ever asked for the "3 months later" evidence.  I don't think it was ever a genuine requirement only something some offices decided would be good to irritate people.

[jcmj]

I just did mine in Jomtien and they didn’t give me a form or ask me to come back in 3 months to show proof of money. To be honest I never did when they gave me the form and never had any issues. Granted I always have at least 800,000 baht in the bank account. I’m sure each immigration department is different. 

[DrJack54]

8 hours ago, Delight said:

It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required.

It was Jomitien that played that silly game and for those that did return there was never a record made of the visit.

Ignore it

[parallelman]

The checking is done on the next extension application. If the IO finds that the 3 month rule and/ or the amount went below 400K then the extension application will be rejected.

[Henryford]

I was given a form and am doing my 2nd visit today. Only takes a few minutes so best not to ignore it i think.

[Pattaya57]

57 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I was given a form and am doing my 2nd visit today. Only takes a few minutes so best not to ignore it i think.

I was given a form too. Is it just copy of passbook needed? 

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

I was given a form too. Is it just copy of passbook needed? 

Updated copy.

Ignore it. Jomitien makes no record of it. 

Compliance checked when applying for next extension 

[brianthainess]

11 hours ago, Delight said:

Have the circumstances changed?

 

It seems that evidence that 800K has been in the applicants bank account  for 2 months-prior to application date is unchanged.

Historically a 2 nd visit with  a  similar letter was required 3 months after the application was approved.

It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required.

Is this the case?

My IO Trat : while it only needs to be in your account for 2 months seasoning, they require a 3 month statement on applying. 

[Pattaya57]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Updated copy.

Ignore it. Jomitien makes no record of it. 

Compliance checked when applying for next extension 

I'm ok to do it as it's simple enough and I prefer to follow my immigration office requests. It's also same time as my first 90 day report so not a problem

 

[Dan O]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Updated copy.

Ignore it. Jomitien makes no record of it. 

Compliance checked when applying for next extension 

bad advice in if that office gives it to you, regardless if they record it or not. 

[DrJack54]

32 minutes ago, Dan O said:

bad advice in if that office gives it to you, regardless if they record it or not. 

This topic has been discussed numerous times.

The "slip" with return date is given out randomly.

On return nothing is recorded. 

There has never been a report of issue with not returning.

 

From the OP who just obtained extension......

"It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required."

 

From 3rd post......

" I just did mine in Jomtien and they didn’t give me a form or ask me to come back in 3 months to show proof of money. To be honest I never did when they gave me the form and never had any issues" 

 

 

 

[itsari]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

This topic has been discussed numerous times.

The "slip" with return date is given out randomly.

On return nothing is recorded. 

There has never been a report of issue with not returning.

 

From the OP who just obtained extension......

"It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required."

 

From 3rd post......

" I just did mine in Jomtien and they didn’t give me a form or ask me to come back in 3 months to show proof of money. To be honest I never did when they gave me the form and never had any issues" 

 

 

 

Sin e this post is about the financial requirements for a 12 month extension I wish to ask about  changing the account to a fixed term account from a savings account with the same bank?

The bank informed me this was not a problem with Chiang Mai immigration.

Please can you give your opinion Mr Dr Jack?

 

[DrJack54]

23 minutes ago, itsari said:

The bank informed me this was not a problem with Chiang Mai immigration.

Certainly do the change from savings to fixed account at the same time.

Thinking you have no issue as you are changing account type with same bank.

 

[itsari]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Certainly do the change from savings to fixed account at the same time.

Thinking you have no issue as you are changing account type with same bank.

 

Thank you for your help.

Yes the transfer was done immediately.

Thanks again 👍 

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

This topic has been discussed numerous times.

The "slip" with return date is given out randomly.

On return nothing is recorded. 

There has never been a report of issue with not returning.

 

From the OP who just obtained extension......

"It appears that this 2nd visit is now no longer required."

 

From 3rd post......

" I just did mine in Jomtien and they didn’t give me a form or ask me to come back in 3 months to show proof of money. To be honest I never did when they gave me the form and never had any issues" 

 

 

 

Still bad advice to tell people to ignore requests for documents from immigration. It only takes one time to have a bigger issue for no reason. Its one thing to say its not recorded or not a real requirement but to say ignore it is not correct IMHO.

[Liquorice]

22 hours ago, Dan O said:

Still bad advice to tell people to ignore requests for documents from immigration. It only takes one time to have a bigger issue for no reason. Its one thing to say its not recorded or not a real requirement but to say ignore it is not correct IMHO.

When you apply for the following year's extension, you need a 12 month backdated statement, so Immigration can then check you met the financial requirements for the previous year's extension. If you didn't, they can refuse a further extension application.

[Dan O]

54 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

When you apply for the following year's extension, you need a 12 month backdated statement, so Immigration can then check you met the financial requirements for the previous year's extension. If you didn't, they can refuse a further extension application.

Yes but that doesn't have anything to do with the issue of telling people to ignore a document requested by Imm. They have the authority to request additional docs as they deem fit. Not smart in my opinion whether you agree with it or not. 

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Not smart in my opinion whether you agree with it or not. 

Yes you have expressed your opinion.

Countless threads on Jomitien in particular. Just one cut/paste of MANY....

 

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:41 PM, DrJack54 said:

Have read MANY reports of folk ignoring the "return with bank book" in 3 months.

I have NEVER read a report where failure to do so resulted in issue with next extension. 

@BigStar replied

"True. I ignored when they gave me notice, no problem, as it's not a regulation. They make no record of whether you submitted it or not. The bank book shows whether you had the funds or not"

[Dan O]

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes you have expressed your opinion.

Countless threads on Jomitien in particular. Just one cut/paste of MANY....

 

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:41 PM, DrJack54 said:

Have read MANY reports of folk ignoring the "return with bank book" in 3 months.

I have NEVER read a report where failure to do so resulted in issue with next extension. 

@BigStar replied

"True. I ignored when they gave me notice, no problem, as it's not a regulation. They make no record of whether you submitted it or not. The bank book shows whether you had the funds or not"

And you have expressed your opinion, which is bad advice as far as I'm concerned. Its one thing to say its not recorded and not in the regs and may not be acted on by Imm if you dont comply. But what is in the regs is that imm officers can request additional documentation as they see fit.  All it takes is one time with the wrong Imm Officer and you don't comply and it can blow up in your face.  

[Pattaya57]

I really don't see the problem in complying with the Jomtien immigration request. The form says go directly to desk 8 (so no queue to get a ticket) and show the form with a copy of passport and latest passbook page. Pretty simple (especially as I have to go there to do 90 day report anyway).

 

For all anyone knows they tick a box on their computer saying I was a good boy so go easy on me next extension 😉

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

And you have expressed your opinion, which is bad advice as far as I'm concerned. Its one thing to say its not recorded and not in the regs and may not be acted on by Imm if you dont comply. But what is in the regs is that imm officers can request additional documentation as they see fit.  All it takes is one time with the wrong Imm Officer and you don't comply and it can blow up in your face.  

 

And you, for your part, have also expressed your opinion, which is tantamount to scaremongering par excellence IMHO. Have you actually heard of any instances where retirees were rapped over their knuckles (or worse) for failing to report back to their immigration office exactly 3 months to the nearest nanosecond after lodging their latest retirement extension application if using the 800k bank balance method? I most certainly have not!

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

 

And you, for your part, have also expressed your opinion, which is tantamount to scaremongering par excellence IMHO. Have you actually heard of any instances where retirees were rapped over their knuckles (or worse) for failing to report back to their immigration office exactly 3 months to the nearest nanosecond after lodging their latest retirement extension application if using the 800k bank balance method? I most certainly have not!

Stating a fact is hardly scaremongering. Imm Officers can request any additional documentation that they feel is necessary, even if its not listed in the regs. Telling people to just flat out ignore request from Imm is not a smart thing to do. Giving them information and let them decide their own course of action is appropriate. We are not citizens of this country last I checked if you're here on any type of permission to stay.  Acting entitled to choose to just ignore requests from Imm can come with consequences. Will it happen, don't know, has it happened, don't know that either as all expats don't belong to this forum, read here or post here. Does or has Imm officials done odd stuff not listed in the regs, every day. 

[Henryford]

On 9/20/2024 at 1:11 PM, Dan O said:

Still bad advice to tell people to ignore requests for documents from immigration. It only takes one time to have a bigger issue for no reason. Its one thing to say its not recorded or not a real requirement but to say ignore it is not correct IMHO.

 

I agree, it only takes one difficult immigration officer and you could have a big potential problem. Why risk it for the sake of a few minutes effort.

[flexomike]

23 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Tell that to the person who has a two plus hour drive

I agree, it only takes one difficult immigration officer and you could have a big potential problem. Why risk it for the sake of a few minutes effort.

 

[Pattaya57]

23 minutes ago, flexomike said:

Tell that to the person who has a two plus hour drive

If you live 2 plus hours drive away from Jomtien then why are you using Jomtien immigration? (I understand that's the only office that requests the 3 month bank proof?)

 

[Liquorice]

55 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

If you live 2 plus hours drive away from Jomtien then why are you using Jomtien immigration?

Why even live in Pitsofaya, move to a more civilised area.  🥴