The Moka Pot thread

[scubascuba3]

I've finally got my Moka Pot coffee perfect for me. Tried different beans including blending but my favourite two beans are below. Arabica dark French roast. On Lazada 199/260 baht for 500g.

 

Also bought an improved version of the mokapot 209 baht 4 cup, some highfalutin people think you have to buy Bialetti, they are wrong.

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.qIcHz

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.qIcBo

 

https://th.shp.ee/eKSryYL

 

How do you make your perfect moka pot coffee?

[Lorry]

I used to have 2 Moka Pots from Shopee, 250 each. 

Very flimsy.

They lasted 2 years each. 

Then I bought Pedrini, at Emporium, 750 b. In the second year now, and they certainly will last 6 years. 

 

As for the coffee,  I still have a lot of Illy, cheaply bought in Europe.

 

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, Lorry said:

I used to have 2 Moka Pots from Shopee, 250 each. 

Very flimsy.

They lasted 2 years each. 

Then I bought Pedrini, at Emporium, 750 b. In the second year now, and they certainly will last 6 years. 

 

As for the coffee,  I still have a lot of Illy, cheaply bought in Europe.

 

I have 3 moka pots all from Lazada/Shopee all good, the 3rd one above is a much better design, improves on the earlier version, I wouldn't use the older versions again

[KhunLA]

Have 2 Moka pots, same as OP, and one of the aluminum ones (doesn't get used).  Though use the French Press (stainless steel) now, at home & while O&A, and take a water kettle with us, JIC.

 

If wanting to use your Moka while O&A, little gas stove comes in handy...

 

[Finlaco]

One of the better methods is to use boiled water in the chamber and use a paper coffee filter.  I use a basic Bialetti (4 cups).  The Moka pot metal conducts heat very efficiently and if you start with room-temperature water, you are burning the coffee grinds as the water boils.  Brew it with the lid open and as soon as the coffee begins to come through, remove it from the heat and be careful not to over-extract the coffee as this is the main reason why many people give up on their Moka purchases after a while.  

 

Give it a try. 

 

There is a very significant taste difference between starting with boiled water and room temperature.

 

There is a subtle difference between using a paper filter and no paper filter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Finlaco said:

One of the better methods is to use boiled water in the chamber and use a paper coffee filter.  I use a basic Bialetti (4 cups).  The Moka pot metal conducts heat very efficiently and if you start with room-temperature water, you are burning the coffee grinds as the water boils.  Brew it with the lid open and as soon as the coffee begins to come through, remove it from the heat and be careful not to over-extract the coffee as this is the main reason why many people give up on their Moka purchases after a while.  

 

Give it a try. 

 

There is a very significant taste difference between starting with boiled water and room temperature.

 

There is a subtle difference between using a paper filter and no paper filter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Definitely use boiled water first, with the new design moka pot (image per opening post) the lid can be closed so get zero spits unlike the old style mokapot.

 

I've never tried a paper filter but probably an improvement 

[WebGuy]

Moka, is this the coffee that tastes like chocolate? That's my favorite coffee I buy in Amazon.

 

If it is, which of these two types of coffee gives it that chocolate taste, Arabica 100% French Dark Roast or HillKoff Arabica coffee?

 

Thanks

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, WebGuy said:

Moka, is this the coffee that tastes like chocolate? That's my favorite coffee I buy in Amazon.

 

If it is, which of these two types of coffee gives it that chocolate taste, Arabica 100% French Dark Roast or HillKoff Arabica coffee?

 

Thanks

I don't know the history of the moka pot but I don't think it's about chocolate, i personally don't like chocolate flavour coffee, i like coffee to be coffee, the french dark roast is my favourite flavour, i had to try various combinations before i settled on that. Do the same, try different ones, blend them if not quite right, until you settle on a favourite 

[scubascuba3]

I should probably add the grinder i bought from Lazada, only 255 baht, lasted a year so far and works perfectly, i do 3x 9 second bursts to get the correct grind for the moka pot

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.qtP5Q

[GypsyT]

Still the best in my mouth; G7 black. No sugar, no creamer.

- I get it at Big-C or Jomtien bus station market.

 

https://www.amazon.com/TRUNG-Instant-Technology-Non-Dairy-Creamer/dp/B08D9MS3M1

 

[AndreasHG]

3 hours ago, WebGuy said:

Moka, is this the coffee that tastes like chocolate? That's my favorite coffee I buy in Amazon.

 

Nothing to do with chocolate. The history of the Moka Pot may be found here, and it's interesting: Moka pot - Wikipedia

 

And of its predecessor: Neapolitan flip coffee pot - Wikipedia

 

[Cameroni]

Dark roast is the way to go, good pot.

 

Everything correct.

[scubascuba3]

Just bought these paper filters, not essential but definitely better, zero sediment in the cup

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.qxLpS

[scubascuba3]

I've further fine tuned my moka pot experience, almost perfect now

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.E5CYK

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.E5CT0

 

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've further fine tuned my moka pot experience, almost perfect now

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.E5CYK

 

https://s.lazada.co.th/s.E5CT0

I weigh everything, coffee grounds & water (French Press).  No need with our Moka pot, as just shy of the safety valve, as weighed and 450ml (?).  Even the basket held a consistent 45gr +/-

 

French press harder to judge. So need to weigh.

 

On coffee beans, tested 2 yesterday, and bought beans from Myanmar, tasty, though pricy 🙄  

 

฿800 /1 kg (฿175 / 250gr) from local ma/pa shop near Myanmar border pass, Dan Singkhon, PKK.   Couldn't find online, so guess one needs to be in the area.

 

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Herbland+Coffee+%26+Tea/@11.7861612,99.6471177,656m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!3m7!1s0x30fe9bc43de11883:0x497fcad10fd9c7c4!8m2!3d11.7861612!4d99.649698!9m1!1b1!16s%2Fg%2F11f32br5xh?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQxNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

 

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I weigh everything, coffee grounds & water (French Press).  No need with our Moka pot, as just shy of the safety valve, as weighed and 450ml (?).  Even the basket held a consistent 45gr +/-

 

French press harder to judge. So need to weigh.

 

On coffee beans, tested 2 yesterday, and bought beans from Myanmar, tasty, though pricy 🙄  

 

฿800 /1 kg (฿175 / 250gr) from local ma/pa shop near Myanmar border pass, Dan Singkhon, PKK.   Couldn't find online, so guess one needs to be in the area.

 

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Herbland+Coffee+%26+Tea/@11.7861612,99.6471177,656m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!3m7!1s0x30fe9bc43de11883:0x497fcad10fd9c7c4!8m2!3d11.7861612!4d99.649698!9m1!1b1!16s%2Fg%2F11f32br5xh?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQxNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

 

i don't weigh but i have the same amount every time and follow the same process so the coffee tastes the same every time, it's trial and error to get it exactly how you like it. Happy with the coffee beans I'm using. Important for the cup to be exactly right also

[scubascuba3]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I weigh everything, coffee grounds & water (French Press).  No need with our Moka pot, as just shy of the safety valve, as weighed and 450ml (?).  Even the basket held a consistent 45gr +/-

 

French press harder to judge. So need to weigh.

 

On coffee beans, tested 2 yesterday, and bought beans from Myanmar, tasty, though pricy 🙄  

 

฿800 /1 kg (฿175 / 250gr) from local ma/pa shop near Myanmar border pass, Dan Singkhon, PKK.   Couldn't find online, so guess one needs to be in the area.

 

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Herbland+Coffee+%26+Tea/@11.7861612,99.6471177,656m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!3m7!1s0x30fe9bc43de11883:0x497fcad10fd9c7c4!8m2!3d11.7861612!4d99.649698!9m1!1b1!16s%2Fg%2F11f32br5xh?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQxNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

 

Good idea that, pick up coffee beans when on a trip, assuming not tourist price

[richard_smith237]

On 9/25/2024 at 3:25 PM, WebGuy said:

Moka, is this the coffee that tastes like chocolate? That's my favorite coffee I buy in Amazon.

 

If it is, which of these two types of coffee gives it that chocolate taste, Arabica 100% French Dark Roast or HillKoff Arabica coffee?

 

Thanks

 

While similar sounding... Mocha coffee and Moka Pot are different things.

 

Mocha is a coffee bean that originated in Yemen and was known for its 'chocolatey' notes - this evolved into Coffee Shops making Mocha coffee with regular coffee and cocoa powder (or actual chocolate).

 

Whereas the Moka Pot is a specific brewing technique (subject of this thread).

[richard_smith237]

On 9/25/2024 at 12:27 PM, Finlaco said:

One of the better methods is to use boiled water in the chamber and use a paper coffee filter.  I use a basic Bialetti (4 cups).  The Moka pot metal conducts heat very efficiently and if you start with room-temperature water, you are burning the coffee grinds as the water boils.  Brew it with the lid open and as soon as the coffee begins to come through, remove it from the heat and be careful not to over-extract the coffee as this is the main reason why many people give up on their Moka purchases after a while.  

 

Give it a try. 

 

There is a very significant taste difference between starting with boiled water and room temperature.

 

There is a subtle difference between using a paper filter and no paper filter.

 

100% this - though I've never used the filter paper. 

 

As mentioned, using boiled water prevents burning of the grinds.

 

Also brewing with the lid open means you can observe the extraction, as soon as the fluid (coffee) starts to flow out of the spout, remove from the heat to prevent 'over-pressure and spurting' - where the boiling water lifts the grinds in the 'brewer organ' and passes through the coffee with incomplete extraction...   (filter paper may also help this).

 

Using a Moka Pot requires some trial and error to 'perfect' the extraction, but once achieved - the end product is very good value for money if not wanting to go the whole-hog and get a decent espresso machine.

 

Note - Consistency of grind is perhaps the most important part - thus: Use a quality grinder or have pre-ground beans.

 

I personally like Espresso ground coffee and like the Moka Pot Coffee slightly muddy.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Also brewing with the lid open means you can observe the extraction, as soon as the fluid (coffee) starts to flow out of the spout, remove from the heat to prevent 'over-pressure and spurting' - where the boiling water lifts the grinds in the 'brewer organ' and passes through the coffee with incomplete extraction...   (filter paper may also help this).

With the new and improved taller moka pot design there is no need to keep the lid open, the coffee brews evenly and you can easily hear when it's nearly ready, no spurting or splashing like the old smaller design.

 

I also find the plastic dosing ring (pictured further up) very useful to get the same quantity of coffee and no spillage

[scubascuba3]

Interesting that Bialetti is being sold to a Chinese company and we all know China is where all the copies come from

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/16/italian-coffee-pot-maker-bialetti-to-be-sold-to-chinese-business-nuo-capital

[richard_smith237]

47 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

With the new and improved taller moka pot design there is no need to keep the lid open, the coffee brews evenly and you can easily hear when it's nearly ready, no spurting or splashing like the old smaller design.

 

I also find the plastic dosing ring (pictured further up) very useful to get the same quantity of coffee and no spillage

 

Perhaps I need to change my Bailetti Moka Pot to a newer design as it does spurt and by the time we hear it 'boiling up' its too late... 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

55 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Perhaps I need to change my Bailetti Moka Pot to a newer design as it does spurt and by the time we hear it 'boiling up' its too late... 

 

 

Yep, i threw my old ones away, just inferior to the new and improved design