Spreaders of Conspiracy Theories: Unmasking the Motivations Behind the Lies

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Like I said - Daddy Issues.

Meaning? Idiot speak.

[bradiston]

On 10/8/2024 at 12:09 PM, Yagoda said:

I find that the Left hates to be reminded of National Socialism, even though their policies go hand in hand.

 

Your insults are weak and boring.

So the self declared Nazis in the US are really socialists, right? And in Europe? And instances please of Nazi and socialist policies going hand in hand.

 

You think Hitler was left wing? Mind boggling. Absolutely mind boggling. It's this trope of National Socialism being a socialist party because of the name. As I've pointed out, Hitler's Nazi party was opposed to any form of Marxist Leninist socialism. He hated communists. Very like you. But of course you've read Mein Kampf and Das Kapital, right?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, bradiston said:

Why are you grinding this axe? What's the point? This parrot is dead. It is no more. It has passed on. Assange is free.

Why does it bother you if I correct the lies being repeated about that wee scrote?

[Chomper Higgot]

On 10/8/2024 at 12:22 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I saw it and I agree that it was a controlled demolition. I just don't know why they would do it.

I thought your area of professional expertise was emptying bedpans?

 

I would be intrigued to hear of what training or education you’ve received in the physics and chemistry of fires, material strength and failure under temperature and or dynamic mechanical loading.

[impulse]

50 minutes ago, bradiston said:

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Like I said - Daddy Issues.

Meaning? Idiot speak.

 

Maybe.  Or maybe he's alluding to Harris's choice of venues to do an interview with a channel that usually focuses on <deleted> coaching...  I don't know who on her staff made that decision.  But Trump needs to send her a gift basket.

 

I'll let you do your own Googling.  Hint:  You won't find it on CNN or MSDNC.  But it's all over the right wing sources.

 

Edit:  I see a word was censored.  But the initials are the same as Brian Johnson.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Maybe.  Or maybe he's alluding to Harris's choice of venues to do an interview with a channel that usually focuses on <deleted> coaching...  I don't know who on her staff made that decision.  But Trump needs to send her a gift basket.

 

I'll let you do your own Googling.  Hint:  You won't find it on CNN or MSDNC.  But it's all over the right wing sources.

 

Edit:  I see a word was censored.  But the initials are the same as Brian Johnson.

 

 

It’s a channel that has a young audience that Harris wishes to reach and encourage their vote for the her campaign and the Democratic Party.

 

Meanwhile, Trump hides from 60 minutes and from a second debate with Harris.

 

Cluck Cluck…

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a channel that has a young audience that Harris wishes to reach and encourage their vote for the her campaign and the Democratic Party.

 

Meanwhile, Trump hides from 60 minutes and from a second debate with Harris.

 

It would be the equivalent of Trump doing an interview with Andrew Tate.  After diligently avoiding the media for most of his campaign.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

Meaning? Idiot speak.

Still got Daddy Issues

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

16 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Maybe.  Or maybe he's alluding to Harris's choice of venues to do an interview with a channel that usually focuses on <deleted> coaching...  I don't know who on her staff made that decision.  But Trump needs to send her a gift basket.

 

I'll let you do your own Googling.  Hint:  You won't find it on CNN or MSDNC.  But it's all over the right wing sources.

 

Edit:  I see a word was censored.  But the initials are the same as Brian Johnson.

 

 

Well said - not sure he will understand though - cognitive bias precludes it.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

It would be the equivalent of Trump doing an interview with Andrew Tate.  After diligently avoiding the media for most of his campaign.

 

What it actually was is Trump agreeing to an interview and then chickening out.

Mind, just look at the number of editing cuts to his interviews with Fox.  They struggle to find two minutes of coherent speech from him.

 

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

So the self declared Nazis in the US are really socialists, right? And in Europe? And instances please of Nazi and socialist policies going hand in hand.

 

You think Hitler was left wing? Mind boggling. Absolutely mind boggling. It's this trope of National Socialism being a socialist party because of the name. As I've pointed out, Hitler's Nazi party was opposed to any form of Marxist Leninist socialism. He hated communists. Very like you. But of course you've read Mein Kampf and Das Kapital, right?

Guess you have never read the National Socialist program nor histories of that time.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Maybe.  Or maybe he's alluding to Harris's choice of venues to do an interview with a channel that usually focuses on <deleted> coaching...  I don't know who on her staff made that decision.  But Trump needs to send her a gift basket.

 

I'll let you do your own Googling.  Hint:  You won't find it on CNN or MSDNC.  But it's all over the right wing sources.

 

Edit:  I see a word was censored.  But the initials are the same as Brian Johnson.

 

 

Please share the right wing sources.

[bradiston]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you have never read the National Socialist program nor histories of that time.

Such as?

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Still got Daddy Issues

 

Slime.

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Such as?

You need a reading list, right?

 

[bradiston]

26 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you have never read the National Socialist program nor histories of that time.

They were in the Wikipedia article I linked to about 3 days ago but which you refuse to read.

 

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You need a reading list, right?

 

Yes please. I read the Wikipedia article, which I imagine you refuse to do (MSM right?). Hitler's intention was to oppose all forms of Marxist Leninism. The Nazi party was the instrument to do that. Modern day socialists are not Nazis. In Spain in 1936 they fought against Franco and his fascist party. You think that Russia sent 27 million men to their deaths when all along there was no difference between the two sides? Why would they do that?

[bradiston]

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You need a reading list, right?

 

And would you say the DPRK is a democratic country and that Kim is a democratically elected leader? Oh but it says so. So it must be true!

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

They were in the Wikipedia article I linked to about 3cdstsxago butvehichbyouvrefusectovread.

 

Yes please. I read the Wikipedia article, which I imagine you refuse to do (MSM right?). Hitler's intention was to oppose all forms of Marxist Leninism. The Nazi party was the instrument to do that. Modern day socialists are not Nazis. In Spain in 1936 they fought against Franco and his fascist party. You think that Russia sent 27 million men to their deaths when all along there was no difference between the two sides? Why would they do that?

 You can start with Hitlers Vienna, the Hitler Biographies by Fest, Machtan, Heiden, Bullock, Uhlrich, Kershaw, Payne, Masur and Shirer; Hitlers Table Talk; the books about the German Post war Revolution by Haffner, Harman, Pelz and Broue; Mein Kampf; once you get those done, you can go to Zitelmann's Hitlers National Socialism.

 

Let me know when you have those done and I have more.

[bradiston]

5 minutes ago, bradiston said:

And would you say the DPRK is a democratic country and that Kim is a democratically elected leader? Oh but it says so. So it must be true!

And democracy is a disease. Just look at the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. It says democracy, right?

[bradiston]

Just now, Yagoda said:

 You can start with Hitlers Vienna, the Hitler Biographies by Fest, Machtan, Heiden, Bullock, Uhlrich, Kershaw, Payne, Masur and Shirer; Hitlers Table Talk; the books about the German Post war Revolution by Haffner, Harman, Pelz and Broue; Mein Kampf; once you get those done, you can go to Zitelmann's Hitlers National Socialism.

 

Let me know when you have those done and I have more.

And how do any of those compare to actual Marxist Leninist Socialism? I won't waste my time. What you're saying is quite patently untrue. Socialism has absolutely nothing to do with Nazism. End of.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, bradiston said:

And democracy is a disease. Just look at the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. It says democracy, right?

start reading if you want to argue with the adults

[bradiston]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

start reading if you want to argue with the adults

 

[AhFarangJa]

It seems to me that the people who are trying to manipulate the news, such as all the covidiocy lies, etc. are putting this out because more and more conspiracy theories are being shown to be fact, and they are trying to discredit them.

[bradiston]

46 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

It seems to me that the people who are trying to manipulate the news, such as all the covidiocy lies, etc. are putting this out because more and more conspiracy theories are being shown to be fact, and they are trying to discredit them.

Once again, "more and more conspiracy theories are being shown to be fact".

 

1. Which conspiracy theories?

 

2. By whom are they being shown "to be fact"?

[bradiston]

59 minutes ago, bradiston said:

 

Well, I've done as much reading as I care to do right now. Arguing about the varieties of 20th century socialism, or 21st, come to that, would take forever and has already been done. It's meaning, interpretation and implementation has been in constant evolution, I guess as according to a Marxist dialectic. The distinction I would make, and I'm not alone, between the Nazi party and other socialist parties, is, I have yet to read or hear of a socialist regime/government/ideology outside of Nazism, advocating the planned extermination of a whole race of people, incorporating extreme racism as a basic tenet, advocating the liquidation of "untermensch", using a nightmarish group of fanatics, the SS, to round up,  torture and liquidate opponents, and waging total war on countries in the cause of nationalist expansion. Where do those characteristics fit into your view of modern day socialism? And I'm excluding China as communist, and Russia, as no longer communist, but no doubt winners of your admiration as opposing "Western hegemony".

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

Well, I've done as much reading as I care to do right now. Arguing about the varieties of 20th century socialism, or 21st, come to that, would take forever and has already been done. It's meaning, interpretation and implementation has been in constant evolution, I guess as according to a Marxist dialectic. The distinction I would make, and I'm not alone, between the Nazi party and other socialist parties, is, I have yet to read or hear of a socialist regime/government/ideology outside of Nazism, advocating the planned extermination of a whole race of people, incorporating extreme racism as a basic tenet, advocating the liquidation of "untermensch", using a nightmarish group of fanatics, the SS, to round up,  torture and liquidate opponents, and waging total war on countries in the cause of nationalist expansion. Where do those characteristics fit into your view of modern day socialism? And I'm excluding China as communist, and Russia, as no longer communist, but no doubt winners of your admiration as opposing "Western hegemony".

This looks like an answer to myself, but it's actually a reply to @Yagoda. A mix up with editing.

[Yagoda]

23 minutes ago, bradiston said:

This looks like an answer to myself, but it's actually a reply to @Yagoda. A mix up with editing.

socialism in practice requires the extermination of the exploiting classes. Learn your history.

[Danderman123]

On 10/8/2024 at 11:09 AM, Yagoda said:

I find that the Left hates to be reminded of National Socialism, even though their policies go hand in hand.

 

Your insults are weak and boring.

You seem to be quite ignorant of history.

 

Explain why the Nazis put so many Socialist in concentration camps.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, bradiston said:

Slime.

Calling your Daddy names is just more proof.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

socialism in practice requires the extermination of the exploiting classes. Learn your history.

Don't lecture me! You're talking Pol Pot maybe. Hardly a shining example of socialism. What you claim is purely inflammatory polemic. I guess you really are a troll. Nothing to do with history! Have you registered as a foreign agent yet? You certainly talk like one. Pure agitprop.

 

The exploiting classes! That tells me you haven't a clue what you're talking about. You mean the bourgeoisie? Class war? I never read Hitler did anything of the sort. The capitalists at the time were necessary to bank roll his war. They survived very much intact and very much richer. Hardly a socialist outcome. You go read all those books you listed. I don't believe you've read a single one of them.