S/E Asian Thai Consulates going to eVisa online system effective Tuesday Oct 8th

[PJ71]

17 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Well you're the only one who thinks not. They added Australia and NZ in April no problems

Ok, let's see when they roll it out then.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

Who obtained what in Oz, certainly not me.

The guy you quoted. Obviously 

@Pattaya57

[sandyf]

15 hours ago, Upnotover said:

Depends on the definition of residence.  I think what they really want is proof of presence.

People should remember that the counries already providing e-visas do so on the basis the applicant has the legal right to long term residence in the country concerned, short term eg tourist visas are not acceptable residence.

Some countries are a bit unclear but this is how the HK site puts it

• Confirmation of legal residence, in the context of the Hong Kong SAR, generally refers to (a) Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card (“A” HKID); (b) Hong Kong Identity Card indicating right to land (“R” HKID) or unconditional stay permit (“U” HKID); or (c) valid stay permit issued by Hong Kong Immigration (for “C” HKID holders).

• Confirmation of legal residence, in the context of the Macao SAR, generally refers to (a) Macao Permanent Resident ID Card (flip-side to be submitted along with front-side); or (b) valid stay permit issued by Macao Immigration. https://hongkong.thaiembassy.org/en/page/visa-info

[sandyf]

14 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Teething problems are no good when you've got an expiration date on current visa.

 

The system and website needs built properly and tested properly....which is unlikely.

The system was rolled out at the start of 2019, initially in China, and worked reasonably well. It was then rolled out in the UK and run into problems. I suspect that although the No of visas processed in China was large it may have been on a batch basis rather than individual. The system freezing problems in the UK gave it a bad name but they were resolved fairly quickly. I think France was next and most issues had been dealt with by then. My Non O applications since 2021 have been very straightforward, last year got the visa in about 50 hours.

[Tod Daniels]

10 hours ago, sandyf said:

but this is how the HK site puts it

Hong Kong is NOT the website you wanna be quoting AT ALL
HCMC, Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Kota Bharu and Phnom Penh ALL only require you show your entry stamp (if you have one) AND the hotel booking to show you're legally in the country you're applying for the eVisa at

 

[Tod Daniels]

Heads up,
EDIT; (Oct 8th)

All three countries (Cambodia, Malaysia & Vietnam) are all online on the eVisa system.. !!

 

https://www.thaievisa.go.th/
 

[Tod Daniels]

On 10/7/2024 at 10:53 AM, Watawattana said:

I reckon the captioned from the OP means you don't need to

that would be a FALSE reckoning 😞

You have to physically be IN the country whose consulate you're applying for the eVisa at

You upload your entry stamp and hotel booking to show that you're there
 

[madone]

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S/E Asian Thai Consulates going to eVisa online system effective Tuesday Oct 8th

wonder how many lucky fokkers have rolled up on consulates this week looking for a visa only to be greeted with this bombshell

[Captain Flack]

I have removed an off topic post that has also translated a quote.

 

@Adam Tomaszewski English is the only language to be used in this forum.

 

Rule 16. English is the only permitted language anywhere on ASEAN NOW, except within the Thai language  forum, where using Thai is allowed.

[Upnotover]

11 minutes ago, madone said:

wonder how many lucky fokkers have rolled up on consulates this week looking for a visa only to be greeted with this bombshell

If they did they probably went back to their hotels and applied online.  Not really much of a bomb.

[DrJack54]

4 hours ago, Upnotover said:

Not really much of a bomb.

For many folk being able to obtain eVisa for Thailand while in eg Vietnam is big win.

Currently visa exempt being 60 days not such big deal however moving forward this eVisa addition good news.

 

[sandyf]

On 10/8/2024 at 7:04 AM, Tod Daniels said:

Hong Kong is NOT the website you wanna be quoting AT ALL
HCMC, Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Kota Bharu and Phnom Penh ALL only require you show your entry stamp (if you have one) AND the hotel booking to show you're legally in the country you're applying for the eVisa a

Since the e-visa system started it has always been legal residence. If you want to claim the rules will be diffiferent for different jurisdictions that is up to you. Time tells all.

Funny how some are in favour of inconsistancy when it suits the agenda.

 

Effective from 27 September 2021, Foreign nationals with a legal/permanent residence in South Korea who wish to apply for Thai visa must submit his/her application through the new online E-Visa platform at http://thaievisa.go.th.(Eligible for all nationalities) https://seoul.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/required-documents-for-visa-application?page=5fa4ac18af46ee3780556b72&menu=5fa4b54f317ab80e961d20d2

[Tod Daniels]

14 hours ago, sandyf said:

Since the e-visa system started it has always been legal residence

careful, @sandyf your bullheadedness is getting in the way of your common sense 😕 

FEW consulates on the evisa system require legal permanent residence to apply for a visa when you're in a country.

MOST <- other than the piss poor examples you showed, just require you to show you're legally IN that country and use an address in that country when you apply. 

I think you're going out of the way to select "hard consulates" to show examples of how you need legal residence, might as well add all the thai consulates in China to your list too 😉 

believe me (or don't) HCMC, Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur, Kota Bharu, Penang, and Phnom Penh <- who all went on the eVisa system tuesday DO NOT require anything but proof you're legally in the country and an address where you're staying there, nor do the nearby walk up consulates Vientiane, Savannakhet, Yangon, Jakarta, Taipei require anything other than what I mentioned

[Upnotover]

14 hours ago, sandyf said:

Since the e-visa system started it has always been legal residence. If you want to claim the rules will be diffiferent for different jurisdictions that is up to you. Time tells all.

Funny how some are in favour of inconsistancy when it suits the agenda.

 

Effective from 27 September 2021, Foreign nationals with a legal/permanent residence in South Korea who wish to apply for Thai visa must submit his/her application through the new online E-Visa platform at http://thaievisa.go.th.(Eligible for all nationalities) https://seoul.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/required-documents-for-visa-application?page=5fa4ac18af46ee3780556b72&menu=5fa4b54f317ab80e961d20d2

You might want to trawl through this forum around February this year when @anotherfarangishere made several posts about successfully getting an e-visa in Korea without "legal residence".  Seems even when they write the rules they don't follow them.

[Greenwich Boy]

1 hour ago, Tod Daniels said:

careful, @sandyf your bullheadedness is getting in the way of your common sense 😕 

FEW consulates on the evisa system require legal permanent residence to apply for a visa when you're in a country.

MOST <- other than the piss poor examples you showed, just require you to show you're legally IN that country and use an address in that country when you apply. 

I think you're going out of the way to select "hard consulates" to show examples of how you need legal residence, might as well add all the thai consulates in China to your list too 😉 

believe me (or don't) HCMC, Hanoi, Kuala Lumpur, Kota Bharu, Penang, and Phnom Penh <- who all went on the eVisa system tuesday DO NOT require anything but proof you're legally in the country and an address where you're staying there, nor do the nearby walk up consulates Vientiane, Savannakhet, Yangon, Jakarta, Taipei require anything other than what I mentioned

Tod, I plan to get a Thai evisa from Vietnam in January. What do you think they will accept as proof of being in the country? I am a Brit so no visa required to enter Vietnam.

[Upnotover]

1 minute ago, Greenwich Boy said:

Tod, I plan to get a Thai evisa from Vietnam in January. What do you think they will accept as proof of being in the country? I am a Brit so no visa required to enter Vietnam.

You'll get an entry stamp and a "permission to remain until" stamp.  That ought to do the trick.

[pomchop]

so does this mean that the one day van runs to cambodia to get another 60 days when you re enter thailand is no more or that i have to now go to cambodia or vietnam etc and apply online there for an evisa to come back into thailand? Would you need to stay overnight in other country or is it quick online...?

[JimTripper]

2 hours ago, Greenwich Boy said:

Tod, I plan to get a Thai evisa from Vietnam in January. What do you think they will accept as proof of being in the country? I am a Brit so no visa required to enter Vietnam.

Passport stamp would work.

[Upnotover]

9 minutes ago, pomchop said:

so does this mean that the one day van runs to cambodia to get another 60 days when you re enter thailand is no more or that i have to now go to cambodia or vietnam etc and apply online there for an evisa to come back into thailand? Would you need to stay overnight in other country or is it quick online...?

Nothing has changed.  Only that applying for a visa in these countries is now online rather than in person (and it is not instant, you'll need to wait several days).  A border bounce to re-enter 60 days visa exempt is another thing altogether.

[patman30]

when are they going to streamline immigration with eExtensions?

[pomchop]

3 hours ago, Upnotover said:

Nothing has changed.  Only that applying for a visa in these countries is now online rather than in person (and it is not instant, you'll need to wait several days).  A border bounce to re-enter 60 days visa exempt is another thing altogether.

so i can still do the van trip to cambodia then immediately come back to thailand and get stamped for another 60 days...usa citizen..is there a rule as to how many times per calendar year you can do this?  thank you for information.

[Liquorice]

3 minutes ago, pomchop said:

so i can still do the van trip to cambodia then immediately come back to thailand and get stamped for another 60 days...usa citizen

I believe your supposed to stay 1 night in Cambodia before returning to Thailand, but if it's an organised van trip, you're covered.

 

4 minutes ago, pomchop said:

is there a rule as to how many times per calendar year you can do this?  thank you for information.

When an IO states its enough, questions you, and informs you to obtain the correct visa for your length of stays in Thailand.

[Katatonica]

10 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

I believe your supposed to stay 1 night in Cambodia before returning to Thailand, but if it's an organised van trip, you're covered.

 

When an IO states its enough, questions you, and informs you to obtain the correct visa for your length of stays in Thailand.

Yes, I was given a hard time last time I entered even showing a flight back out 5 days later. I work in Singapore but cannot use the Thai embassy here because I do not have a long term residence permit. I am signed on to a vessel based here so can stay as long as I need to but no residency permit. I get 5 days a month leave but I am very concerned as to how they’re going to treat me if I go again for my next leave, due next week. I did go to Penang and got a TR 3 month visa a few months ago, which I let expire after 3 monthly 5-day trips, due to the new regulations (which don’t seem to apply to regular visitors at all - I just get told to get a marriage visa but it’s not that simple) but I’m very reluctant to do that again: 2 months without going home to my Thai wife and home and 5 expensive days on my own in a place I would rather not go to, instead.

[Liquorice]

2 minutes ago, Katatonica said:

Yes, I was given a hard time last time I entered even showing a flight back out 5 days later. I work in Singapore but cannot use the Thai embassy here because I do not have a long term residence permit. I am signed on to a vessel based here so can stay as long as I need to but no residency permit. I get 5 days a month leave but I am very concerned as to how they’re going to treat me if I go again for my next leave, due next week. I did go to Penang and got a TR 3 month visa a few months ago, which I let expire after 3 monthly 5-day trips, due to the new regulations (which don’t seem to apply to regular visitors at all - I just get told to get a marriage visa but it’s not that simple) but I’m very reluctant to do that again: 2 months without going home to my Thai wife and home and 5 expensive days on my own in a place I would rather not go to, instead.

If you were married in Thailand and have a Thai spouse, you can apply for both a 30 and 60 day extension after entering VE.
Total stay of 150 days.

[Katatonica]

20 hours ago, Liquorice said:

If you were married in Thailand and have a Thai spouse, you can apply for both a 30 and 60 day extension after entering VE.
Total stay of 150 days.

Thank-you for that information but my concern is whether I will have a problem entering visa exempt again for just my 5 day leave. We were married in Thailand, at a registry office, over a decade ago.

[Caldera]

1 hour ago, Katatonica said:

Thank-you for that information but my concern is whether I will have a problem entering visa exempt again for just my 5 day leave. We were married in Thailand, at a registry office, over a decade ago.

 

I don't think you'll have any real problem for such a short stay. In case you get questioned, have your ticket out ready to show. 

[sandyf]

On 10/10/2024 at 1:24 AM, Upnotover said:

You might want to trawl through this forum around February this year when @anotherfarangishere made several posts about successfully getting an e-visa in Korea without "legal residence".  Seems even when they write the rules they don't follow them.

Indeed, and quite aware, but that doesn't mean a "jobsworth" will not come out of the woodwork.

It is always better to be fully aware of what is required.

[sandyf]

On 10/10/2024 at 1:10 AM, Tod Daniels said:

careful, @sandyf your bullheadedness is getting in the way of your common sense 😕 

Unlike you I don't try and tell people how clever I am and don't stoop to ridicule when taking a different view.

I am certainly not going to believe something just because you say so, what wil be will be. Should no one have any problems feel free to add another feather in your cap.

[Rob Browder]

On 10/10/2024 at 2:20 PM, pomchop said:

so i can still do the van trip to cambodia then immediately come back to thailand and get stamped for another 60 days...usa citizen..is there a rule as to how many times per calendar year you can do this?  thank you for information.

When/if a limit is imposed, the agents running the vans will know first, and it will be reported here.  Predicting the future with immigration - and the variations between offices and entry-points - is a guessing-game.  We only know what "has happened" / "is happening now," in most cases.

[Rob Browder]

On 10/10/2024 at 2:47 PM, Katatonica said:

Yes, I was given a hard time last time I entered even showing a flight back out 5 days later. ...

I just get told to get a marriage visa but it’s not that simple) but I’m very reluctant to do that again: 2 months without going home to my Thai wife and home and 5 expensive days on my own in a place I would rather not go to, instead.

It is really sad they give you any grief at all when entering, if you only stay 5 days each visit, given they can can see that in their system.  As well, the Visa-Exempt rules now state that visiting Thai family is a VALID use of VE entry.  I doubt a supervisor would deny-entry in the future, in your case, but up to you if you want to continue dealing with their hassling.

 

If your wife can get away, you could take a trip with her to Savannakhet, and get a 1-Year Multiple-Entry based on marriage to a Thai.  To qualify, you would need to show 400K in a Thai bank in your name for 2 months.  Much better than only 3 months with a TR Visa.  Note that one needs to schedule an appointment at Savannakhet.