Drunk Indian Tourist Assaulted After Harassing Woman on Pattaya Beach

[Dogmatix]

Another idea might be to use it for collateral with a gold shop or someone and let them foreclose and deal with it themselves.

[ukrules]

9 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Another idea might be to use it for collateral with a gold shop or someone and let them foreclose and deal with it themselves.

 

I was thinking along the same lines but with a far more 'aggressive' debt collector.

 

[w94005m]

5 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

Been involved with 2 encroachment cases.  In the first one a family known to the missus built part of their house on a part of our land.  They came up with many excuses over two years not to negotiate.  Eventually the missus shocked them with a court summons.  They showed up and mediation was ordered by the court.  We offered to sell them the whole piece of land they had encroached part of.  If not, the court would issue an order to evacuate our land, involving demolition of part of their house.  Eventually they agreed to buy our plot for about 50% more than we paid for it.  We gave some time to pay and a daughter was able to borrow from a bank to pay.  So it was relatively easily solved once we took them to court.  They still talk to the MIL in the village which is a surprisingly positive bonus.

 

The second one is much nastier and involves a 20 odd rai plot acquired through sale with the right of redemption.  The owners borrowed money to do funny business in local elections, as learned later, expecting to get a relative elected and be able pay back the debt with corruption money but were outbid in the election and have never been able to pay back all the money they borrowed or redeem sales with right of redemption. Our sale or redemption contract was for only one year and they never paid any agreed interest but asked for it to be extended which the missus for a year out of kindness, even without any payment. They kept saying they were just about to get the money to redeem but never did and came out with tricks like please transfer the title before payment because the bank will only lend after transfer 555.  They asked to rent the plot  and signed an agreement and paid the rent for one or two years.  But then stopped paying and squatted on the land.  After a couple of years of them squatting, the missus hired someone to plant trees on it but they wouldn't let him on to our land.  We sued for eviction and the case is ongoing.  The missus has to fly up for the court hearings and they usually send a lawyer to say they can't make it to waste her time and money.  But now the court has ordered that they can't delay any longer and, if they can't agree to buy the land at market price acceptable to the missus or enter into a new rental contract, an eviction order will issued.  Since it is a Nor Sor Sam Kor green title deed, their plan was obviously to claim squatters rights after using the land for 10 years claiming the owner had abandoned it.  However, the court case frustrates that because it is evidence that the owner wanted the land back and they were squatting illegally with no rights to claim the land in future.   We will take it to the village headman to persuade them to leave the land and let our guy work on it, if we get an eviction notice.  If we can plant timber trees there, it will be useless for their rice growing and timber trees will make it look like it is in constant use by the owner.  Then we can sell it and get out of the situation.  But at least we hope to get a court order to frustrate their squatter rights. 

 

We have incurred about 100k in lawyer fees so far but the market value of the land is over 3m today which we don't want to write off.  In the OP's case, with a 80k investment and 30k in lawyer fees that could rise higher, I would suggest it is better to put it down to experience.

My commiserations on the problems with the second case. I hope you're able to get that resolved.

 

Your noted experiences are vaulable to know about and I appreciate all the details.

 

I was going to agree with you and just write this off and not waste further money on it, but my girlfriend has taken it personally and wants him to summoned, which for the sake of 30,000B I might just do. The principle of this tosser thinking he can just get off scot free makes me inclined to spend just to try to wipe the smile off his face.

Edited 2 hours ago by w94005m

[w94005m]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

I was thinking along the same lines but with a far more 'aggressive' debt collector.

 

That would indeed be nice, but would come back against my gf in some sort of negative credit way.