Reasons of change

[Social Media]

 

As Israel deliberates its response to the recent barrage of 180 ballistic missiles fired from Iran, the focus on Iran's nuclear weapons program becomes increasingly urgent. Prime Minister Netanyahu has Iran firmly in his sights, with Israel potentially being the last line of defense against Tehran's nuclear ambitions. The West has thus far employed diplomatic measures, supported by covert intelligence efforts, to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear capability. However, following the events of October 7, 2023, the longstanding tensions in the Middle East are rapidly intensifying, pushing the region towards a potential catastrophe.

 

Ken McCallum, the head of MI5, has recently warned about sabotage and covert operations by Russian and Iranian agents. These warnings are not isolated but connected to the growing threat posed by Iran’s weapons of mass destruction program. Both Russia and Iran pose threats not only to their immediate adversaries but to the West as well. Their agents are likely probing vulnerabilities in nuclear power stations and other critical infrastructure in the UK and beyond.

 

The rise of Iran’s nuclear capabilities, combined with its hostile actions, is deeply concerning. With two uranium mines, enrichment plants, and ballistic missile capabilities, Iran is nearing the capacity to develop nuclear weapons that could strike both Israel and the West. Despite international scrutiny from the United States and the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran has navigated around sanctions and surveillance, especially after the United States withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal under President Trump. Meanwhile, there are concerns that Putin, in exchange for Iranian support in weapons, may have provided Tehran with crucial nuclear technology.

 

The failure rate of Iranian missiles fired at Israel so far—95 percent—might offer some reassurance about their capability. Yet, the risk remains that one successful nuclear strike could have devastating consequences. Such an attack could trigger a regional or even global conflict, as Israel, which already possesses nuclear weapons, would retaliate with devastating force. The Iranian regime, particularly the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), shares a fanatical commitment to the destruction of Israel. They may not hesitate to press the "red button" if they believe it furthers their mission, despite the catastrophic consequences.

 

While some in the West may underestimate the danger due to Russia's nuclear posturing and lack of follow-through since its invasion of Ukraine, the risks posed by Iran are far greater. Iran's support for Hamas' violent attacks on October 7, 2023, further demonstrates the regime’s disregard for international norms and its willingness to act through proxies. The possibility of an Iranian nuclear strike must not be taken lightly, as it would undoubtedly provoke a massive retaliatory response from Israel, leading to an escalation into global nuclear conflict.

 

Israel currently holds a clear nuclear advantage over Iran, creating a fragile balance that must be maintained. President Biden and other Western leaders, including those in the UK, would be wise to ensure this balance persists. Allowing Israel to neutralize Iran’s nuclear capabilities might be the only way to prevent a wider disaster. Tehran's regime is already facing internal dissent, driven by popular frustration over the suppression of women and youth, and Israel’s decisive action could further weaken the ayatollahs' grip on power.

 

Watch: “I think the idea of allowing a genocidal, theocratic, unstable dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow,” Poilievre said.

I love this man. With people like @PierrePoilievre and @realDonaldTrump hopefully taking the reins, there is hope for a better, stronger and safer world. pic.twitter.com/t2g2fJJM0l

— Cheryl E 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🎗️ (@CherylWroteIt) October 9, 2024

 

For the world to move away from the brink of nuclear disaster, Iran’s nuclear program must be dismantled. This would significantly reduce the threat Tehran poses, not just to Israel, but to global stability. The West, despite its weariness from ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East, must recognize the importance of supporting Israel in this endeavor. Allowing Israel to take action against Iran’s nuclear capabilities may be the only way to avoid a catastrophe and restore some semblance of peace and security in the region.

 

Based on a report from Daily Telegraph | Global News | X 2024-10-11

 

 

 

[Tug]

It was addressed someone killed it removing any leverage we had.the other wild card player in this dangerous game that (someone) says they fell in love squandering years of sanctions for a photo op,meanwhile little Kim continues to produce nukes.elections have consequences!

Edited 21 hours ago by Tug

[Cryingdick]

These days it seems like the first post in every thread is also the dumbest.

[Cryingdick]

Anyway as far as Iran is concerned they will have a nuclear weapon you would need a Time Machine to stop that now. There nuclear program is way below the ground and even if you could get to it the know how to make a centerfuge and would just do it again. 

 

The time is long gone where any country or block can prevent other countries from technology that dates back to WW2. I am sure the Japanese for example could make a nuclear weapon and stick it on a missle these days in about 15 minutes. 

[Tug]

25 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

These days it seems like the first post in every thread is also the dumbest.

How so?we had an agreement with verification there’s several other things to consider,the Iranian population is getting sick and tired of the mullas remember what happened when they murdered that girl for not covering her hair?they remember the way things were before the mullas ruined their country.imagine how much leverage we lost when trump welched on the treaty.Imagine if we could buy their oil.those mullas would be thinking long and hard before screwing that up because their people wouldn't stand for it.personally I wish they would revolt and get their country back they individually are great people with an incredible culture…..if it were allowed to blossom.I certainly don’t condone nor support the present regime they are terrorists.

[Cryingdick]

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

How so?we had an agreement with verification there’s several other things to consider,the Iranian population is getting sick and tired of the mullas remember what happened when they murdered that girl for not covering her hair?they remember the way things were before the mullas ruined their country.imagine how much leverage we lost when trump welched on the treaty.Imagine if we could buy their oil.those mullas would be thinking long and hard before screwing that up because their people wouldn't stand for it.personally I wish they would revolt and get their country back they individually are great people with an incredible culture…..if it were allowed to blossom.I certainly don’t condone nor support the present regime they are terrorists.

Hopefully Israel takes out their refineries as we sit on the side doing nothing.

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Hopefully Israel takes out their refineries as we sit on the side doing nothing.

Fuel is expensive enough allready perhaps sink their navy and destroy their weapons factories that would be great!👍 

[Cryingdick]

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

Fuel is expensive enough allready perhaps sink their navy and destroy their weapons factories that would be great!👍 

The price of fuel shouldn't be a factor. 

[nobodysfriend]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

connected to the growing threat posed by Iran’s weapons of mass destruction program

 

Yes , seen this with Saddam already .

 

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

Allowing Israel to neutralize Iran’s nuclear capabilities might be the only way to prevent a wider disaster

 

Sure , another preventive strike by Israel on Iran would bring peace ?

What is wrong with all these heavily biased people ?

A lasting peace never comes out of a war and the destruction it brings .

To make peace , tolerance , the will to find a political solution , and negotiations based on the WILL to achieve peace are necessary .

The first step to peace would be an independent palestinian state .

If Israel would agree to that , a lasting peaceful coexistence between the involved parties could eventually become possible .

Edited 17 hours ago by nobodysfriend

[Trippy]

41 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

The first step to peace would be an independent palestinian state .

If Israel would agree to that , a lasting peaceful coexistence between the involved parties could eventually become possible .

I think Israel would agree to that, AFTER Hamas surrenders. If Hamas stays, they will keep shooting missiles into Israel no matter what the agreement states, just like they have always done. Want peace, Hamas has to go.  

[john donson]

Watch: “I think the idea of allowing a genocidal, theocratic, unstable dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow,” Poilievre said.

 

mhhh.... that describes israel to the point

[newbee2022]

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

As Israel deliberates its response to the recent barrage of 180 ballistic missiles fired from Iran, the focus on Iran's nuclear weapons program becomes increasingly urgent. Prime Minister Netanyahu has Iran firmly in his sights, with Israel potentially being the last line of defense against Tehran's nuclear ambitions. The West has thus far employed diplomatic measures, supported by covert intelligence efforts, to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear capability. However, following the events of October 7, 2023, the longstanding tensions in the Middle East are rapidly intensifying, pushing the region towards a potential catastrophe.

 

Ken McCallum, the head of MI5, has recently warned about sabotage and covert operations by Russian and Iranian agents. These warnings are not isolated but connected to the growing threat posed by Iran’s weapons of mass destruction program. Both Russia and Iran pose threats not only to their immediate adversaries but to the West as well. Their agents are likely probing vulnerabilities in nuclear power stations and other critical infrastructure in the UK and beyond.

 

The rise of Iran’s nuclear capabilities, combined with its hostile actions, is deeply concerning. With two uranium mines, enrichment plants, and ballistic missile capabilities, Iran is nearing the capacity to develop nuclear weapons that could strike both Israel and the West. Despite international scrutiny from the United States and the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran has navigated around sanctions and surveillance, especially after the United States withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal under President Trump. Meanwhile, there are concerns that Putin, in exchange for Iranian support in weapons, may have provided Tehran with crucial nuclear technology.

 

The failure rate of Iranian missiles fired at Israel so far—95 percent—might offer some reassurance about their capability. Yet, the risk remains that one successful nuclear strike could have devastating consequences. Such an attack could trigger a regional or even global conflict, as Israel, which already possesses nuclear weapons, would retaliate with devastating force. The Iranian regime, particularly the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), shares a fanatical commitment to the destruction of Israel. They may not hesitate to press the "red button" if they believe it furthers their mission, despite the catastrophic consequences.

 

While some in the West may underestimate the danger due to Russia's nuclear posturing and lack of follow-through since its invasion of Ukraine, the risks posed by Iran are far greater. Iran's support for Hamas' violent attacks on October 7, 2023, further demonstrates the regime’s disregard for international norms and its willingness to act through proxies. The possibility of an Iranian nuclear strike must not be taken lightly, as it would undoubtedly provoke a massive retaliatory response from Israel, leading to an escalation into global nuclear conflict.

 

 

Israel currently holds a clear nuclear advantage over Iran, creating a fragile balance that must be maintained. President Biden and other Western leaders, including those in the UK, would be wise to ensure this balance persists. Allowing Israel to neutralize Iran’s nuclear capabilities might be the only way to prevent a wider disaster. Tehran's regime is already facing internal dissent, driven by popular frustration over the suppression of women and youth, and Israel’s decisive action could further weaken the ayatollahs' grip on power.

 

Watch: “I think the idea of allowing a genocidal, theocratic, unstable dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow,” Poilievre said.

 

For the world to move away from the brink of nuclear disaster, Iran’s nuclear program must be dismantled. This would significantly reduce the threat Tehran poses, not just to Israel, but to global stability. The West, despite its weariness from ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East, must recognize the importance of supporting Israel in this endeavor. Allowing Israel to take action against Iran’s nuclear capabilities may be the only way to avoid a catastrophe and restore some semblance of peace and security in the region.

 

Based on a report from Daily Telegraph | Global News | X 2024-10-11

 

 

 

Israel should carefully think about a response. 

If they strike too hard Iran could be triggered to press the red button

[retarius]

Iran is entitled to develop nukes. Why should its mortal enemies be allowed to have them, if they are denied?

[Purdey]

How about offering their nuclear scientists a bank account full of money and nationality wherever they choose (as long as the recipient country is willing)? Identity change, wife and kids to join.

Seems like a peaceful, capitalist, method of avoiding nuclear weapons development. There can't be that many nuclear scientists in Iran.

[300sd]

6 hours ago, retarius said:

Iran is entitled to develop nukes. Why should its mortal enemies be allowed to have them, if they are denied?

You might want to read your own question a little more carefully and think about it. But if you still don't get it then perhaps you might understand this article:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-iranian-general-vows-to-wipe-out-annihilate-israel/

[riclag]

6 hours ago, retarius said:

Iran is entitled to develop nukes. Why should its mortal enemies be allowed to have them, if they are denied?

Responsible people for nuke arms would disagree with you.

 

Their mortal enemy (Israel )isn’t constantly reminding the world 

of the obsession of killing them

by supplying their terror proxies 

with money and weapons to kill.

[riclag]

A strong deterrent against Iran is needed!

Appeasement has emboldened the fanatics .

World in Chaos brought to you,  by the elite's in Washington  and other countries .

[300sd]

12 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Yes , seen this with Saddam already .

 

 

Sure , another preventive strike by Israel on Iran would bring peace ?

What is wrong with all these heavily biased people ?

A lasting peace never comes out of a war and the destruction it brings .

To make peace , tolerance , the will to find a political solution , and negotiations based on the WILL to achieve peace are necessary .

The first step to peace would be an independent palestinian state .

If Israel would agree to that , a lasting peaceful coexistence between the involved parties could eventually become possible .

Good luck with that. These are people who want to kill Jews. It's not about land. Here's an interesting interview. Only need to listen to the first minute or so and if you really want to understand why the ex pm of Israel says what he says then perhaps you can google: the palestinian centre for policy and research! 

 

[Bkk Brian]

This was back in May of this year and its relevant right now.

 

Iran willing to 'expend every Arab life' in efforts to destroy Israel, former US security adviser says

Iran is willing to "expend every Arab life" in its efforts to end Western influence in the Middle East and destroy Israel, a former US national security adviser has said.

HR McMaster, who held the position between 2017 and 2018 during the Trump presidency, told Sky News that there is still a risk of escalation between Iran and Israel after the two nations carried out attacks on each other in April.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-willing-to-expend-every-arab-life-in-efforts-to-destroy-israel-former-us-security-adviser-says-13127330

[billd766]

16 hours ago, Tug said:

Fuel is expensive enough allready perhaps sink their navy and destroy their weapons factories that would be great!👍 

And should Israel be allowed to keep its nuclear weapons?

[billd766]

4 hours ago, 300sd said:

You might want to read your own question a little more carefully and think about it. But if you still don't get it then perhaps you might understand this article:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-iranian-general-vows-to-wipe-out-annihilate-israel/

Why would anybody believe anything that comes from the Times of Israel?

[billd766]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Responsible people for nuke arms would disagree with you.

 

Their mortal enemy (Israel )isn’t constantly reminding the world 

of the obsession of killing them

by supplying their terror proxies 

with money and weapons to kill.

No. Israel just invades other countries kills thousands of people, injures over a hundred thousand more, mainly innocent women, children and babies, destroys infrastructure attacks hospital and schools and according to the BBC has eve attacked some UNIFIL bases in Lebanon.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn0ew4egegpt

 

And STILL no country seems to have the balls to stop them.

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

No. Israel just invades other countries kills thousands of people, injures over a hundred thousand more, mainly innocent women, children and babies, destroys infrastructure attacks hospital and schools and according to the BBC has eve attacked some UNIFIL bases in Lebanon.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn0ew4egegpt

 

And STILL no country seems to have the balls to stop them.

It's beyond belief now. 

You forgot the 128 plus journalists. 

 

https://cpj.org/2024/10/one-year-and-climbing-israel-responsible-for-record-journalist-death-toll/#:~:text=At least 128 journalists and,carried out by Israeli forces.

[Neeranam]

35 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And STILL no country seems to have the balls to stop them

What is worse some countries support them unequivocally. 

Why you might ask. 

 

[connda]

I won't even elaborate other that to state the obvious: Most Westerners have been raised from birth to believe that Israel is God's Gift to the World.  And of course, God gave them the Eastern Mediterranean (not the British via the Belfour Agreement) and as such they have the God-given right to ethnically cleanse the entire region since 1948 and anyone who disagrees is a "terrorist." 

The only problem?  The local Arab and Persian population is tired of the ethnic cleansing.  Now if you are the typical Westerner, then all Arabs and Persians are dirty camel-riding ragheads who don't deserve to breath the same air as "God's Chosen People" sooooo, ya'll root root root to <cue the Beach Boys "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

The same goes for Westerner's sentiments about Russia, China, and all other countries which you have been raised to viscerally hate.  So?  Don't be surprised when the nukes fly.  In this Orwellian world of Newspeak, the oppressors are the oppressed, and the aggressors are the victims of aggression.  The world stage is better than a fictional screen-play nowadays, kinda like Doctor Strangelove, and just about as satirically funny.

[Neeranam]

50 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What is worse some countries support them unequivocally. 

Why you might ask. 

 

This is a longer video, explaining why the US support Israel. 

 

[connda]

20 hours ago, Social Media said:

For the world to move away from the brink of nuclear disaster, Iran’s nuclear program must be dismantled.

That's not going to happen ☝️ any more than Russia is going to lay down it's weapons and give up the territories which are now part of the Russian Federation, or China is going to allow Taiwan to secede from mainline China. 
But those are all demands that the West is willing to start World War 3 over...and they will, I have no doubt. 
Why? Hegemony and hubris.  Remember, the United States is the "Most Exceptional Country In The World" and all of the lowly nations must "bend a knee" - or else!

Well kids - what you're going to experience is a self-fulfilling prophesy.  Stay tuned.....!