The age factor election: "A vote for Trump could easily be a vote for a President Vance"

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Russia, Russia, Russia - fascist, fascist, fascist - ludicrous 

 

Laughing stock material. 

Not a laughing stock for this guy:

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-03-07/trumps-campaign-manager-paul-manafort-faces-25-years-in-prison-in-thursday-sentencing

[Danderman123]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He is your obsession , he isn't my leader

You always want to talk about him and the latest speech he made and what he said and meant 

If Trump isn't your Dear Leader, do you think he weighs 215 pounds, as he claimed, or was he lying?

[Will B Good]

 

 

 

 

Maybe Trump could build a dam and make the Germans pay for it?

[Danderman123]

Here's a preview of the upcoming Madison Square Garden rally for Trump:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden#

 

Only people with the right genes allowed.

 

No scary brown people!

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Danderman123

[Will B Good]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Here's a preview of the upcoming Madison Square Garden rally for Trump:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden#

 

Only people with the right genes allowed.

 

 

Many a true post made in jest.

 

 

 

[theblether]

Honestly, it's laughable. Years later - long after Mueller and even Bob Woodward said there was nothing on Trump, and these conspiracy theorists still can't let it go. 

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

If Trump isn't your Dear Leader, do you think he weighs 215 pounds, as he claimed, or was he lying?

 

   But it is his natural hair or does he dye his hair blond ?

Why don't you send him a letter and ask him ?

[Danderman123]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   But it is his natural hair or does he dye his hair blond ?

Why don't you send him a letter and ask him ?

A member of Trump cult cannot answer the 215 pound question. It's a really weird "tell".

[theblether]

26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Not a laughing stock for this guy:

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-03-07/trumps-campaign-manager-paul-manafort-faces-25-years-in-prison-in-thursday-sentencing

 

Manafort was charged with four counts of failing to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts while Gates was charged with three. The charges arise from Manafort's consulting work for a pro-Russian government in Ukraine and are unrelated to the Trump campaign.

 

 

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Manafort was charged with four counts of failing to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts while Gates was charged with three. The charges arise from Manafort's consulting work for a pro-Russian government in Ukraine and are unrelated to the Trump campaign.

 

 

Those were the charges used to get Manafort to testify in the Russia case.

[theblether]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Those were the charges used to get Manafort to testify in the Russia case.

 

You mean the case that doesn't exist except in the head of conspiracy theorists? 

 

Utter balloons

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

You mean the case that doesn't exist except in the head of conspiracy theorists? 

 

Utter balloons

 

 

Just to confirm....is this the "utter balloons' to which you are referring.....

 

 

Yes, there is substantial evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goal of assisting Donald Trump. This evidence has been outlined in several government reports, investigations, and intelligence assessments. The most notable findings come from the U.S. Intelligence Community, the Mueller Report, and the Senate Intelligence Committee’s bipartisan report.

 

Key Findings on Russian Interference:

 

1. U.S. Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) - January 2017:

The U.S. intelligence agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) released a joint assessment concluding with high confidence that Russia, under the direction of President Vladimir Putin, interfered in the 2016 election to undermine confidence in the democratic process, harm Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and help Donald Trump win. They cited:

• Cyberattacks on Democratic targets: Russian hackers, primarily from the group known as Fancy Bear (linked to Russia’s military intelligence, the GRU), hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, which were then leaked to the public through platforms like WikiLeaks.

• Social media disinformation: Russia’s Internet Research Agency (IRA) engaged in a wide-ranging social media campaign to spread disinformation, promote divisive content, and support Trump’s candidacy while attacking Clinton.

2. The Mueller Report - April 2019:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation detailed two main efforts by Russia to influence the 2016 election:

• Hacking and leaking operations: The GRU hacked Democratic emails, which were then strategically released to hurt Clinton and help Trump.

• Social media manipulation: The Internet Research Agency ran thousands of fake social media accounts and groups to spread pro-Trump, anti-Clinton messaging, aiming to exacerbate political and social divisions in the U.S.

However, the report did not establish a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, though it did document multiple contacts between Trump associates and individuals linked to Russia. The report also outlined instances where Trump campaign officials sought to benefit from Russia’s actions, such as Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer promising “dirt” on Clinton.

3. Senate Intelligence Committee Report - 2020:

A five-volume report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee largely confirmed the findings of the intelligence community and Mueller. It highlighted Russia’s interference and pointed out the Kremlin’s intent to assist Trump. It also described the Trump campaign’s willingness to accept and exploit the foreign assistance, though it stopped short of concluding there was an explicit agreement (conspiracy) between the campaign and Russia.

The committee report emphasized the role of Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, who had extensive connections to Russian-aligned individuals. Manafort provided internal campaign polling data to a Russian intelligence officer, Konstantin Kilimnik, which raised significant concerns about potential coordination.

 

Conclusion:

 

While there is substantial evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with the intent to help Donald Trump, the investigations did not establish that the Trump campaign criminally conspired with Russia. The interference took several forms, including cyberattacks, the release of stolen emails, and a vast disinformation campaign. The fact that the Trump campaign sought to benefit from these actions, though not proven to be a criminal conspiracy, has been a subject of ongoing political and legal debate.

[Jingthing]

27 minutes ago, theblether said:

Honestly, it's laughable. Years later - long after Mueller and even Bob Woodward said there was nothing on Trump, and these conspiracy theorists still can't let it go. 

That's not what they said. As I suspected you're very badly informed and living in a maga media bubble.

Also -- stuff has happened since then.

In fact Trump's calls as a citizen with Putin have the potential of being charged as serious crimes.

Plus the Russia thing is much bigger than direct traceable collusion. Russia didn't and doesn't need that to work very hard to get Trump elected.

But you probably would deny even that (pathetic). 

[Captain Flack]

A couple of flame posts calling other posters trolls have been removed.

[Inderpland]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

Honestly, it's laughable. Years later - long after Mueller and even Bob Woodward said there was nothing on Trump, and these conspiracy theorists still can't let it go. 

Links to credible sources?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Inderpland said:

Links to credible sources?

Hilarious considering that the potentially illegal Trump and Putin phone calls (as a citizen) were just revealed by Woodward. When you're in the maga bubble, anything goes with the convicted felon.

Edited 11 hours ago by Jingthing

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, theblether said:

 

You mean the case that doesn't exist except in the head of conspiracy theorists? 

 

Utter balloons

Here's a breakdown of indictments and cases in Mueller's probe

 

On July 13, 2018 special counsel Robert Mueller took direct aim at the Russians who allegedly were personally responsible for infiltrating the Democratic National Committee’s computer system, among others, setting in motion what former intelligence officers call one of the most effective active measures campaigns in history. The defendants are charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Offense Against the United States, Aggravated Identity Theft and Conspiracy to Launder Money. 

[theblether]

18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Here's a breakdown of indictments and cases in Mueller's probe

 

On July 13, 2018 special counsel Robert Mueller took direct aim at the Russians who allegedly were personally responsible for infiltrating the Democratic National Committee’s computer system, among others, setting in motion what former intelligence officers call one of the most effective active measures campaigns in history. The defendants are charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Offense Against the United States, Aggravated Identity Theft and Conspiracy to Launder Money. 

 

Seek help. 

[Danderman123]

17 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Seek help. 

I am sorry that actual reality gives you a headache.

 

The Russians intervened heavily in the 2016 election, but the lessons learned will help the good guys stop Russian disinformation in 2024.

 

This means you won't have so many talking points this time around.