10 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Can we agree there are no structural election issues or significant voter fraud?

 

That's the most ridiculous thing I have read.

You'll find out exactly how much voter fraud took place in 2020 and IS taking place over the coming weeks,

1 minute ago, rasg said:

That's the most ridiculous thing I have read.

You'll find out exactly how much voter fraud took place in 2020 and IS taking place over the coming weeks,

Here we go again!

The BIG LIE 2.0.

11 minutes ago, rasg said:

That's the most ridiculous thing I have read.

You'll find out exactly how much voter fraud took place in 2020 and IS taking place over the coming weeks,

Yes, the 2020 losing side is already starting with the rubbish . The next insurrection already in progress. Even if Trump wins they will cry fraud . “I did not win by enough “

6 hours ago, Dan O said:

Not sure what you consider an insurrection then if invading the Capitol with the express purpose of taking hostages and preventing the confirmation of the presidential appointment is not a insurrection. You may want to talk with the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers about your position as they may believe it. You can call it whatever you want and it won't change a thing that happened and won't save the orange idiot for his role in insighting it

You had to make it sound even sillier than it was. "Taking hostages!" 😂😂😂 If I was Kier Starmer, I would have said taking sausages which would probably be more accurate. I'm looking forward to the true numbers of FBI stooges who were in the crowd stirring the crowd up. They've refused to answer the question so far but it will come out soon.

 

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

DNC, Clinton campaign agree to Steele dossier funding fine | AP News

 

So you now admit that Trump was never convicted of sexual abuse, much less rape likec you have been falsely claiming, 

 

Thank for coming clean, Feel better now? 

The only crime committed by Trump will be overturned on appeal as Jack Smith was found to have been improperly appointed by the DOJ. That judgement was by SCOTUS.

The same for all the others was that he was found liable for in stacked civil courts. All are dead in the water. No convictions or guilty decisions in civil courts.

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

One jury found Trump guilty of felonies, another found Trump liable for sexual assault.

Correct. Felonies that have literally been Trumped up for Trump as they were nothing more than misdemeanours.

 

They had to change the law to bring the E Jean Carroll sexual assault case. She couldn’t even remember what month or even the year that it took place. Oh. I forgot. She has made the similar allegations several times before...

6 hours ago, Inderpland said:

A quick search turned up several, but if you really wanna know I urge you to do your own research. Who knows, you might have an epiphany.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

 

 

 

Folks are still using Wikipedia as a source? 

Wikipedia has been criticized for a number of reasons, including: 

Lack of formal review

Wikipedia doesn't have a formal process for reviewing content, which can lead to errors and inaccuracies. 

Vandalism

Anyone can change Wikipedia, and some editors intentionally make bad changes. 

Bias

Wikipedia articles can be biased, especially for controversial topics or articles about famous people. 

Unverifiable claims

Some articles don't have good sources, and unverifiable claims can remain. 

Hoaxes

Hoaxes can be published on Wikipedia, and it can take time to uncover them. For example, the Henry Batuta hoax was published for 15 months before being discovered. 

Poor writing

Many articles are not considered well-written, verifiable, or comprehensive. 

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, righand3256 said:

Folks are still using Wikipedia as a source? 

Wikipedia has been criticized for a number of reasons, including: 

Lack of formal review

Wikipedia doesn't have a formal process for reviewing content, which can lead to errors and inaccuracies. 

Vandalism

Anyone can change Wikipedia, and some editors intentionally make bad changes. 

Bias

Wikipedia articles can be biased, especially for controversial topics or articles about famous people. 

Unverifiable claims

Some articles don't have good sources, and unverifiable claims can remain. 

Hoaxes

Hoaxes can be published on Wikipedia, and it can take time to uncover them. For example, the Henry Batuta hoax was published for 15 months before being discovered. 

Poor writing

Many articles are not considered well-written, verifiable, or comprehensive. 

 

 

 

No, as a reference.

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I am not talking trash, nor am I defecting.

 

So, after almost four years you still think, the State is going to find someone to charge with and convict of insurrection? 

 

Have you not notices that even CNBC now calls it a riot and not an insurrection? 

 

I bet you still believe the silly Russian Collusion hoax too, don't you? 

You are parsing words about one of the most tragic events in US history.

11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

That's what I said, only one jury found him guilty. 

 

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, and I was right. It speaks to your credibility. 

Because you don't care if a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault. 

 

If the victim were your relative, you might feel differently.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

You are parsing words about one of the most tragic events in US history.

Words have meaning. You and others continually insist on making the same false claims over and over, and then when you get called on it, you claim I am "parsing words". 

 

And unless the list includes thousands of tragic events, it's not "one of the most tragic events in US history," That's just hyperbole the left is using to further divide the county and gain power. 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I said I was against this so that's a silly question.

I don't know the legality details.  Do you?

I would say if sent by any foreign government, most likely illegal.

But again not sure if coming as just non citizens. 

Foreign nationals are allowed to volunteer on campaigns in the USA as long as they are not paid and there are restrictions for what they are allowed to do.  Agents of foreign govt are not allowed to work on campaigns. I dont agree with it but it is what it is. 

Just now, Dan O said:

Foreign nationals are allowed to volunteer on campaigns in the USA as long as they are not paid and there are restrictions for what they are allowed to do.  Agents of foreign govt are not allowed to work on campaigns. I dont agree with it but it is what it is. 

Hillary found that out the hard way, huh? 

9 hours ago, rasg said:

You had to make it sound even sillier than it was. "Taking hostages!" 😂😂😂 If I was Kier Starmer, I would have said taking sausages which would probably be more accurate. I'm looking forward to the true numbers of FBI stooges who were in the crowd stirring the crowd up. They've refused to answer the question so far but it will come out soon.

That is exactly what the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers called for and were looking to do was take hostages when they entered the Capital so you need to use you brain and quote facts not fiction. I really thought you were smarter than that.

 

Yes there were a number of FBI agents on site, not as instigators but as observers as they had prior notice of the event and plans. Guess who tipped them off????? The founder of The Proud Boys was an FBI informant, who was also convicted for his role in this debacle.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Because you don't care if a jury found Trump liable for sexual assault. 

 

If the victim were your relative, you might feel differently.

No, because I do not believe the charge. 

 

I am expected to believe that thirty years ago, Trump, a tall, rich, arguably (at the time) handsome celebrity playboy sexually assaulted an older woman in a department store dressing room in the middle of the afternoon, and no one notices. 

 

This happens in the exact same store, and in the exact same way as a sexual assault depicted in an episode of "Law and Order". 

 

It's a bit of a stretch for me, but you still believe most anything the left tells you. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Hillary found that out the hard way, huh? 

So what has that to do with anything.

 

This is my last response to you as you have no credibility whatsoever and just post lies, misleading info, bs and when confronted with facts you deflect and gaslight the situation or change the question to something else.  Don't continually claim no insurrection occurred but you don't even know or understand what the term means or how it is enforced. You have a good day now and stop trolling for attention. 

1 minute ago, Dan O said:

So what has that to do with anything.

 

This is my last response to you as you have no credibility whatsoever and just post lies, misleading info, bs and when confronted with facts you deflect and gaslight the situation or change the question to something else.  Don't continually claim no insurrection occurred but you don't even know or understand what the term means or how it is enforced. You have a good day now and stop trolling for attention. 

This time for sure? Why not put me on ignore, that way you will not see when I point ot that you have no credibility whatsoever and that you just post lies, misleading info, bs and when confronted with facts you deflect and gaslight the situation or change the question to something else.  Don't continually claim no insurrection occurred but you don't even know or understand what the term means or how it is enforced.

 

You have a nice day as well.

30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Words have meaning. You and others continually insist on making the same false claims over and over, and then when you get called on it, you claim I am "parsing words". 

 

And unless the list includes thousands of tragic events, it's not "one of the most tragic events in US history," That's just hyperbole the left is using to further divide the county and gain power. 

 

 

 

 

Thousands of people attacked the US Capitol at the urging of Donald Trump, with intent of stopping the certification of the Electoral vote. As a result, over police were injured, some severely, and some committed suicide soon afterwards.

 

Some Trumpers were trampled by the crowd, and died. One woman tried to pass a barricade, and was shot.

 

The Capitol was sacked and trashed.

 

Trump says it was "a day of love".

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Thousands of people attacked the US Capitol at the urging of Donald Trump, with intent of stopping the certification of the Electoral vote. As a result, over police were injured, some severely, and some committed suicide soon afterwards.

 

Some Trumpers were trampled by the crowd, and died. One woman tried to pass a barricade, and was shot.

 

The Capitol was sacked and trashed.

 

Trump says it was "a day of love".

Oh no, what happed to the animal that shot and killed the poor woman that was trying to pass a barricade?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh no, what happed to the animal that shot and killed the poor woman that was trying to pass a barricade?

 

 

If it were Trump being protected by the barricade, you would have a different opinion.

26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

If it were Trump being protected by the barricade, you would have a different opinion.

Again, what happened to the animal that shot and killed the poor woman that was trying to pass a barricade?

 

He's a hero on the left now, yes? 

 

You are so dishonest. 

 

12 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

 I get it now

• Dr Chirstine Blasey Ford was lying because Kavanaugh is a Republican political operative masquerading as a Judge.
•  Juanita Broaderick wasnt lying because Bill Clington is a Demorat. 

No Christine blasey Ford, was lying because that was established at the hearing

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Thousands of people attacked the US Capitol at the urging of Donald Trump, with intent of stopping the certification of the Electoral vote. As a result, over police were injured, some severely, and some committed suicide soon afterwards.

 

Some Trumpers were trampled by the crowd, and died. One woman tried to pass a barricade, and was shot.

 

The Capitol was sacked and trashed.

 

Trump says it was "a day of love".

Don't bother explaining anything to him. Some people are too dense to understand facts. They just understand lies and fake propaganda. You can't argue with people that believe their own lies.

22 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Who died on January 6th other than the innocent protester murdered by the police

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/
Jan 6 and after, inform yourself! And Babbit was not innocent, because attacking and forced entry in the Capitol.

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Thirty years ago, Trump, a tall, rich, arguably (at the time) handsome celebrity playboy sexually assaults an older woman in a department store dressing room in the middle of the afternoon, and no one notices. 

 

This happens in the exact same store, and in the exact same way as a sexual assault depicted in an episode of "Law and Order". 

 

Sure Jan

Trumps’ long self  - admitted history of sexual assault and rapes had nothing to do with being  rich and handsome. As usual with sex pests it  is sadistic violence and most of all control that animated his crimes. He got no sexual gratification from it. And as Trump  stated, “when you’re famous they let you do it.” He always knew he could get away with it, as with everything. He  never faced real consequences for ANY of his criminal actions his whole life. Hopefully that changes soon and America’ 9 year nightmare, with this ghoul, can end somehow. 
 

 

12 hours ago, rasg said:

I decided to stay out of this thread because most of what has been said is pure nonsense but I can’t let this one go.

Two people died on Jan 6th. Ashlie Babit was shot by a Michael Bird who was under no threat whatsoever. She had at least four riot police behind her and was no threat whatsoever.
Roseanne Boyland was beaten to death by the police at the entrance to the tunnel.

If you take a look at the latest CCTV from Jan 6th you can see it for yourself.

 

Firstly: Trump showed he is a coward and liar: that stands.
Secondly, there is more to that story regarding the 5 people who died.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

13 hours ago, rasg said:

I decided to stay out of this thread because most of what has been said is pure nonsense but I can’t let this one go.

Two people died on Jan 6th. Ashlie Babit was shot by a Michael Bird who was under no threat whatsoever. She had at least four riot police behind her and was no threat whatsoever.
Roseanne Boyland was beaten to death by the police at the entrance to the tunnel.

If you take a look at the latest CCTV from Jan 6th you can see it for yourself.

 

Why are you posting about this like you have inside knowledge about what actually happened at the Capitol.  You're not even a US citizen are you?

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Words have meaning. You and others continually insist on making the same false claims over and over, and then when you get called on it, you claim I am "parsing words". 

 

And unless the list includes thousands of tragic events, it's not "one of the most tragic events in US history," That's just hyperbole the left is using to further divide the county and gain power. 

The insurrection was without a doubt one of the most tragic events in US history, and the chief instigator, the one who broke his oath to uphold the constitution still walks free and has not yet been tried for his treason. He's a convicted criminal who's been convicted of multiple felonies and found liable for sexual abuse but for (probably) his most serious crime (high treason) he has not yet been convicted.

Shameful - lock him up!

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh no, what happed to the animal that shot and killed the poor woman that was trying to pass a barricade?

 

 

Is that what you call law enforcement officers who, in their line of duty, shoot criminals? Pretty sure you wouldn't clutch your pearls quite so tightly if the criminal in question had been black, would you.

In fact, imagine what the good ol' MAGA boys that are on here would have said if the insurrectionists had been 'black lives matter' people!😂