True Extent of Migrant Crossings Under Vice President Harris Exposed

[john donson]

usa gets christians, europe is flooded with MUSLIMS... 

[Cryingdick]

10 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve.

The MSM itself called her by that nickname. She was also the AI czar but nobody seem,s to remember that. Kerry was the climate czar so yes they use that term. 

 

She was bestowed the title to make her seem more important than she is. Once, it was clear she had done absolutely nothing they wanted to claimit never happened. Weird world we live in. She wants to disavow the title czar but clings onto the the McFlurry technician title she actually never held.

[impulse]

On 10/31/2024 at 7:33 AM, bunnydrops said:

I still don't understand why there wasn't all the drama back when G Bush was president.

 

You'll notice that they strategically stopped the data in 2022.  If they added the 2023 and 2024 numbers, it would go off the page.

 

 

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

 

 

 

[WDSmart]

21 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

The MSM itself called her by that nickname. She was also the AI czar but nobody seem,s to remember that. Kerry was the climate czar so yes they use that term. 

 

She was bestowed the title to make her seem more important than she is. Once, it was clear she had done absolutely nothing they wanted to claimit never happened. Weird world we live in. She wants to disavow the title czar but clings onto the the McFlurry technician title she actually never held.

The MSM (I had to look that TLA up) might have labeled her the "Border Czar," but as VICE president, all she could ever do was support the policies of the president.

[nauseus]

 

On 10/31/2024 at 5:45 AM, Tug said:

Lots of flaws in this skewed article first off there is NO border czar that’s a made up term.its to bad DONALD JHON TRUMP single handedly killed the border bill that would have (and will once trumps put away) gone a very long way in addressing this problem.

 

Too little and way too late. The stupid bill would still allow nearly two million a year in anyway. That is why it failed. Biden and Harris need "putting away" instead.

[nauseus]

On 10/31/2024 at 7:24 AM, Tug said:

No laws were removed executive orders were nullified the only law that was removed was the BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL trump tanked it so he has something to try and bs the gullible .no more no less when trump is finally put away we will get back to dealing with our problems.

 

Never passed - so never removed. Problems are due to Democrat Party insanity.

[nauseus]

On 10/31/2024 at 8:43 AM, WDSmart said:

I am a Harris supporter, I've already voted, and illegal immigration is not a big deal for me. Having said all that, I'll just note that these are just estimates and not based on any actual counts. And, most of all, during this period, Harris was VICE President, not President, so although she could be assumed to have backed Biden's strategic approach to issues, she should not be judged on Biden's tactical approach to any particular issue. 

 

I can only agree about these "estimates", which are likely lower than the real numbers as nobody seems to have an accurate count.

[nauseus]

On 10/31/2024 at 8:43 AM, WDSmart said:

I am a Harris supporter, I've already voted, and illegal immigration is not a big deal for me. Having said all that, I'll just note that these are just estimates and not based on any actual counts. And, most of all, during this period, Harris was VICE President, not President, so although she could be assumed to have backed Biden's strategic approach to issues, she should not be judged on Biden's tactical approach to any particular issue. 

 

We know you voted for her, now you're starting to sound like her. Pathetic.

[WDSmart]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

We know you voted for her, now you're starting to sound like her. Pathetic.

You misspelled "Patriotic," 

[mogandave]

On 10/31/2024 at 7:24 AM, Tug said:

No laws were removed executive orders were nullified the only law that was removed was the BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL trump tanked it so he has something to try and bs the gullible .no more no less when trump is finally put away we will get back to dealing with our problems.

Which bill, the one Harris pushed in 2021  that would have made all the illegals aliens into citizens in time for the 2024 election?

 

Or the one in 2024 that Harris pushed that was designed to let two million illegals aliens a year into the country?

 

The 2024 bill died only because Democrats joined with Republicans to kill it. 

 

Harris is a liar, and she supports open borders. 

[mogandave]

39 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

The MSM (I had to look that TLA up) might have labeled her the "Border Czar," but as VICE president, all she could ever do was support the policies of the president.

Biden put Harris in charge of overseeing the border crisis. It was big news, that’s why virtually every new outlet called her that. 

 

https://homeland.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/HarrisBorderCzarFactSheet.pdf

[WDSmart]

14 hours ago, mogandave said:

Biden put Harris in charge of overseeing the border crisis. It was big news, that’s why virtually every new outlet called her that. 

 

https://homeland.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/HarrisBorderCzarFactSheet.pdf

Harris may well indeed have been "put in charge" of overseeing the border crises, but in doing so as VICE president, she would have had to follow his strategies on the subject, not make up ones of her own.

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Harris may well indeed have been "put in charge" of overseeing the border crises, but in doing so as VICE president, she would have had to follow his strategies on the subject, not make up ones of her own.

Yet nothing came to Harris’s mind when asked what she would have done differently. 

 

Yes, the Biden-Harris strategy was to get as many illegal aliens into the country as possible, and make them citizens as quickly as possible. 

 

So Pence was able to go against Trump, but a weak VP like Harris was cowed into compliance. No doubt Putin sees it the same way.

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Yet nothing came to Harris’s mind when asked what she would have done differently. 

 

Yes, the Biden-Harris strategy was to get as many illegal aliens into the country as possible, and make them citizens as quickly as possible. 

 

So Pence was able to go against Trump, but a weak VP like Harris was cowed into compliance. No doubt Putin sees it the same way.

No, you're wrong about all of these and probably many other things about the current political situation.

I'm sure Harris considered and suggested many things when asked what she would do differently. And I'm sure some were accepted, and some were rejected or modified. That's what the VICE in vice president indicates.

Their strategy, as far as I can tell, was to allow as many legitimate refugees into the country as possible. To do so would mean there would also be some illegitimate aliens who were only claiming to be refugees. The claims of all immigrants were examined in court, and those who were legitimate refugees were allowed to remain in the US. Those that weren't were deported. Those who didn't show up for their court appearance were hunted down and, when found, were deported.

Pence went against Trump because Trump asked (told) him to do something illegal, which was against the Constitution. Harris, a law-abiding VP, did what she was supposed to do: offer suggestions, but in the end, help the president enact his policies. I'm sure if she has been asked to do something illegal or unconstitutional, she would have refused.

Putin, IMO, sees Trump as his puppet and will do whatever he can to help him get re-elected. 

 

[Thingamabob]

On 10/31/2024 at 9:09 AM, WDSmart said:

Harris was not the "border czar." That's just another lie Trump has told you, so, of course, you believe it. Harris was VICE PRESIDENT. She did not make the strategic decisions concerning anything. Her duty to the president was to inform him, carry out his tactical solutions, and, of course, be there to fill in for him if he became unable to continue to serve.

As far as I'm aware I did not say that Harris was the "border Czar" as you choose to call it. What I said was it was reported that she was appointed to be in charge of border control. I have no idea if these reports were correct or not, however they were widely quoted in the main stream media.

[WDSmart]

11 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

As far as I'm aware I did not say that Harris was the "border Czar" as you choose to call it. What I said was it was reported that she was appointed to be in charge of border control. I have no idea if these reports were correct or not, however they were widely quoted in the main stream media.

AGAIN, Harris was vice president under Biden. She was in charge of enforcing his policies on border control. In doing that, I'm sure she would have had to agree with all of his policies' strategies but not all of the tactics. What the mainstream media (MSM, as I've recently learned, is their TLA) is not important to me. I only listen to and believe CNN.

[mogandave]

47 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

AGAIN, Harris was vice president under Biden. She was in charge of enforcing his policies on border control. In doing that, I'm sure she would have had to agree with all of his policies' strategies but not all of the tactics. What the mainstream media (MSM, as I've recently learned, is their TLA) is not important to me. I only listen to and believe CNN.

So just a weak follower 

[WDSmart]

21 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So just a weak follower 

No, a VICE president. In this case, "vice" means second-in-charge, not first-in-charge." The vice president can advise and even disagree with the president, but the final decision is the president's alone, not the vice president's. 

[mogandave]

19 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, a VICE president. In this case, "vice" means second-in-charge, not first-in-charge." The vice president can advise and even disagree with the president, but the final decision is the president's alone, not the vice president's. 

Harris said when interviewed several times, on television that she would have done nothing differently from Biden. 

 

She has twenty years of history as a hard leftist. You want that, I don’t. Just be honest about it.

 

Edited November 2 by mogandave

[WDSmart]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Harris said when interviewed several times, on television that she would have done nothing differently from Biden. 

 

She has twenty years of history as a hard leftist. You want that, I don’t. Just be honest about it.

 

We just have a disagreement on how much latitude a VP has when carrying out the policies of the president. When Harris says she would not have done anything differently than Biden, she is saying that Biden's priorities and general strategies were/are the same as hers. That doesn't mean her tactics for implementing those strategies will be the same now if she gets elected. Do you think that would be any different between Trump and Vance? 

One of the things I dislike about her is that she is not left enough for me. And, yes, I do want that. I want our economy to become more and more socialist. Unfortunately, she doesn't, or at least hasn't run espousing those principles.

 

 

[fredwiggy]

20 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Never passed - so never removed. Problems are due to Democrat Party insanity.

The main problem is US citizens, meaning rich citizens, hiring these laborers. You punish them severely, the amount of illegals slows down. People have been sneaking in daily for decades, and there's no way to estimate exactly how many are coming in. Population increases daily, which means more are coming in from other countries to find work, or to escape violence in their countries. Covid slowed down quite a few during Trumps tenor, but millions still came in, and his wall didn't do much to slow them down. Biden wanted to allow spouses of those already here a chance to stay.Can't blame Biden or Harris, as other presidents have been enduring this for as long as I've lived.

Edited November 2 by fredwiggy

[mogandave]

27 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The main problem is US citizens, meaning rich citizens, hiring these laborers. You punish them severely, the amount of illegals slows down. People have been sneaking in daily for decades, and there's no way to estimate exactly how many are coming in. Population increases daily, which means more are coming in from other countries to find work, or to escape violence in their countries. Covid slowed down quite a few during Trumps tenor, but millions still came in, and his wall didn't do much to slow them down. Biden wanted to allow spouses of those already here a chance to stay.Can't blame Biden or Harris, as other presidents have been enduring this for as long as I've lived.

Yiu can blame Biden-Harris for canceling the Trump border policies and intentionally letting  in record numbers. 

 

They did it intentionally.

[mogandave]

36 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

We just have a disagreement on how much latitude a VP has when carrying out the policies of the president. When Harris says she would not have done anything differently than Biden, she is saying that Biden's priorities and general strategies were/are the same as hers. That doesn't mean her tactics for implementing those strategies will be the same now if she gets elected. Do you think that would be any different between Trump and Vance? 

One of the things I dislike about her is that she is not left enough for me. And, yes, I do want that. I want our economy to become more and more socialist. Unfortunately, she doesn't, or at least hasn't run espousing those principles.

 

 

Exactly. She supports the same open border policies the Biden-Harris Admin started. 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, mogandave said:

Yiu can blame Biden-Harris for canceling the Trump border policies and intentionally letting  in record numbers. 

 

They did it intentionally.

I think you're misunderstanding some things. The amount of people has increased because of more conflict in the lower countries...................https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-mexico-border-detention/

[mogandave]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I think you're misunderstanding some things. The amount of people has increased because of more conflict in the lower countries...................https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-mexico-border-detention/

So cancelling all of Trump’s border policies that were working had nothing to do with it? 

 

 

[BruceWayne]

For the Great Reset to work you need to tear down the existing order

 

None of what is happening is our home countries is organic

 

This puppet clown is just there to speed up the process...

 

 

[mogandave]

53 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

We just have a disagreement on how much latitude a VP has when carrying out the policies of the president. When Harris says she would not have done anything differently than Biden, she is saying that Biden's priorities and general strategies were/are the same as hers. That doesn't mean her tactics for implementing those strategies will be the same now if she gets elected. Do you think that would be any different between Trump and Vance? 

One of the things I dislike about her is that she is not left enough for me. And, yes, I do want that. I want our economy to become more and more socialist. Unfortunately, she doesn't, or at least hasn't run espousing those principles.

 

 

I am very much against virtually all socialism, and expect it will be the ruin of the country. 

 

DEI will do much to accelerate it. 

[BruceWayne]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I am very much against virtually all socialism, and expect it will be the ruin of the country. 

 

DEI will do much to accelerate it. 

 

Daughter of a marxist professor and promoter of DEI - what could go wrong?

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So cancelling all of Trump’s border policies that were working had nothing to do with it? 

 

 

Who's to say they were working when thousands were still coming in daily?

[fredwiggy]

21 hours ago, mogandave said:

Which bill, the one Harris pushed in 2021  that would have made all the illegals aliens into citizens in time for the 2024 election?

 

Or the one in 2024 that Harris pushed that was designed to let two million illegals aliens a year into the country?

 

The 2024 bill died only because Democrats joined with Republicans to kill it. 

 

Harris is a liar, and she supports open borders. 

I'd like to see where she said this, as no one supports open borders but allowing certain ones to come in, like spouses of those already here. Open border means everyone can come in un documented, but as has been seen, illegals are sent back everyday. When I lived in Texas, and hunted south Texas, I would see then many times crossing ranches and roads heading north, and would also see many in buses heading back, as well as knew a few border patrol agents i sold guns to, who told their stories.