Let The Fraud Begin

[gamb00ler]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:41 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nearly all the cases were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing - there was no real 'trials' - they did not proceed. Big Difference Mate.  Why can you lot not see the doubts?? Because you dont want to - Biden would be illegitimate. 

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Sounds like your side hired the Keystone Cops for lawyers..... probably because the "real" lawyers saw straight through the gossamer evidence and didn't want their law license suspended like many of the Trump "lawyers" have had happen to them.

 

Why can't you lot not see the actual truth?

[bubblegum]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:27 AM, Yagoda said:

Why should we? We have spent enough money on your squabbles.

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Without your allies you would still be part of the British Empire. 

[gamb00ler]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:27 AM, Yagoda said:

Why should we? We have spent enough money on your squabbles.

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  On 11/3/2024 at 12:25 PM, bubblegum said:

Without your allies you would still be part of the British Empire. 

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and you would be called Canadian and be spending loonies!   555

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:41 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nearly all the cases were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing - there was no real 'trials' - they did not proceed. Big Difference Mate.  Why can you lot not see the doubts?? Because you dont want to - Biden would be illegitimate. 

 

Here's the deal - if Harris wins then Biden did win in 2020 and it was all fair and square - I will accept that. But if Trump wins then the 2020 election will forever be in doubt. It will never be ruled as a fraud - but for all time it will be a stain on the USA voting system and democracy. 

 

Fair enough??

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The doubts were raised in courts and rejected as not credible.

[Danderman123]

  On 11/3/2024 at 5:16 AM, mogandave said:

The Nazis (Liz and Dick Cheney) support Harris. 

 

Do you disagree?

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Were the Nazis Fascists?

[Danderman123]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:41 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nearly all the cases were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing - there was no real 'trials' - they did not proceed. Big Difference Mate.  Why can you lot not see the doubts?? Because you dont want to - Biden would be illegitimate. 

 

Here's the deal - if Harris wins then Biden did win in 2020 and it was all fair and square - I will accept that. But if Trump wins then the 2020 election will forever be in doubt. It will never be ruled as a fraud - but for all time it will be a stain on the USA voting system and democracy. 

 

Fair enough??

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Nope.

 

Many of Trump's legal efforts were denied because of lack of evidence.

 

I have posted the summary of the Trump cases here before:

 

https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

 

Here's one example:

 

Bower v. Ducey (D. Ariz. Dec. 9, 2020) – The district court largely dismissed the plaintiffs’ complaint on the grounds of lack of standing. However, the court did touch upon the merits of the plaintiffs’ claims of fraud, ultimately finding that the plaintiffs’ claims were largely based on, “anonymous witnesses, hearsay, and irrelevant analysis of unrelated elections.” For one, the declarations from poll watchers that the plaintiffs provided as proof of fraud did not actually allege fraud at all, but rather simply raised concerns about the manner and process by which election officials matched signatures on absentee ballots. Moreover, none of the plaintiffs’ expert witnesses stated that defendants committed any fraud; instead, they only provided speculative statements about what “could have” happened.

 

As a personal note, the fact that you still believe what you posted is indicative of your psychological state - you refuse to accept facts and continue to live in your fantasy world.

 

Trump lost in 2020. Get over it.

[candide]

  On 11/3/2024 at 10:41 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nearly all the cases were dismissed or dropped for lack of evidence or lack of standing - there was no real 'trials' - they did not proceed. Big Difference Mate.  Why can you lot not see the doubts?? Because you dont want to - Biden would be illegitimate. 

 

Here's the deal - if Harris wins then Biden did win in 2020 and it was all fair and square - I will accept that. But if Trump wins then the 2020 election will forever be in doubt. It will never be ruled as a fraud - but for all time it will be a stain on the USA voting system and democracy. 

 

Fair enough??

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Every lawsuit failed, every recount failed, every audit failed.

 

The 2020 massive election fraud only exists in the MAGA alternate universe. 

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[jippytum]

Trum p's  alligations of voter fraud have aways been villified by US mainstream media. 

As more cases of fraud are revealed his previous accusations  are confirmed as correct. 

[Skeptic7]

On this we agree. This is totally unacceptable and should NOT ever be able to happen. The kid should be deported and visa revoked. And some sort of reliable Eligible Voter ID check required in every State. Should be impossible for non-citizens to ever cast a ballot.

[Purdey]

Not sure who is right or wrong but I tend to not believe anyone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're. 

[Lacessit]

Trump is laying the groundwork for the same baseless lie he tried in 2020, which was resoundingly rejected by all the courts in the land, and cost some of his supporters their liberty, and licenses to practice law.

 

It also cost Fox News $767 million. Smartmatic's lawsuit is ongoing.

 

The only fraud is what Trump is promoting, following the Goebbels aphorism of a lie becoming the truth if it is repeated often enough.

[gamb00ler]

  On 11/2/2024 at 2:02 AM, mdr224 said:

The DMV are mailing voter registration forms to noncitizens. I have the proof here in Nevada

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Oh no!... Are you living with a noncitizen?   That oughta be illegal.  555

[Presnock]

  On 11/2/2024 at 1:57 AM, Yagoda said:

He will claim he didnt know, although if I was his lawyer, Id have him naming names if there were any. Anyone think that he shouldnt be locked up? My opinion is that it should be a Federal Felony with a harsh sentence to discourage such actions, assuming guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/11/01/noncitizen-voting-election-security-voter-fraud/75963501007/

 

Expect the usual: Insults tossed towards me, insults tossed towards Trump, insults tossed  towards the opinion writer, minimization, spin, whateverism, insults towards the US, deflection, Putin and so on..............

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well Trump has claimed victory already and says "if I am not elected then this is a fake election due to corruption" and unfortunately his folks are buying that claim.  Just as many Republican elected officials in 2020 also still claim that election too was fraudulent when over 50 court cases (some with Trump judges) could find no credible evidence of any fraud.  Already there are news reports of fake videos about fake voters this year.  Trump and his lies have made too many people believing in even more lies and amazingly, none of the people have any actual proof.  Scary to say the least for this old man.  I have not been a believer in the presidential skills of too many of the winners over the past 50+ years I have been eligible to vote.  Rich and powerful organizations determine who we will vote for and therefore they are unfortunately the receivers of more benefits than JOE CITIZEN, especially the middle class. IMHO anyway

[RetiredNavy71]

  On 11/2/2024 at 2:02 AM, mdr224 said:

The DMV are mailing voter registration forms to noncitizens. I have the proof here in Nevada

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Then show us

[pattayasan]

  On 11/4/2024 at 12:17 AM, gamb00ler said:

Oh no!... Are you living with a noncitizen?   That oughta be illegal.  555

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He's sheltering a dreamer!

[owl sees all]

Pages and pages of posts. Some interesting. Some not so.

 

The american people get what they deserve. Same as the Brits. But not like the Ukrainians. One of the few powers the people have; voting. Another - in the US at least - might be along soon enough. Especially if it's shown that the voting was rigged.

[Presnock]

  On 11/4/2024 at 1:46 AM, owl sees all said:

Pages and pages of posts. Some interesting. Some not so.

 

The american people get what they deserve. Same as the Brits. But not like the Ukrainians. One of the few powers the people have; voting. Another - in the US at least - might be along soon enough. Especially if it's shown that the voting was rigged.

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For the 2020 election, the Republicans sued for fraud in over 60 cases - all proved to have no evidence and some of the judges were even Trump judges.  Trump is already claiming that if he loses it is because of fraud as he is the most popular!

[pattayasan]

  On 11/4/2024 at 2:13 AM, Presnock said:

For the 2020 election, the Republicans sued for fraud in over 60 cases - all proved to have no evidence and some of the judges were even Trump judges.  Trump is already claiming that if he loses it is because of fraud as he is the most popular!

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Their argument now is that the court didn't go on a fishing trip at the behest of the complainants conspiracy theories.

[FolkGuitar]

Can someone explain to me why, when a mention of Trump cheating and getting caught, or Trump stealing from Children's Cancer Charities, there are people who find it funny and post laughing emojis?

What is funny about a man who steals from sick children?

[Presnock]

  On 11/4/2024 at 2:15 AM, pattayasan said:

 

Their argument now is that the court didn't go on a fishing trip at the behest of the complainants conspiracy theories.

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but that is exactly why, no evidence of any fraud, courts will only act if there is evidence as they too must follow the laws of the land.

[pattayasan]

  On 11/4/2024 at 2:16 AM, FolkGuitar said:

Can someone explain to me why, when a mention of Trump cheating and getting caught, or Trump stealing from Children's Cancer Charities, there are people who find it funny and post laughing emojis?

What is funny about a man who steals from sick children?

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Did he ever finally cut the vets' check?

[john donson]

  On 11/2/2024 at 2:50 AM, FolkGuitar said:

It's not a matter of Politics.  It's a matter of morals. If you support a racist... If you support a convicted felon... If you support a misogynist... If you support a liar... a man who publically mocks the handicapped on TV for all to see...

... they you are no better than he.

 

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that is BIDEN on the left, correct?

[Ebumbu]

That's just half the story. This guy was eating the dogs! 

[FolkGuitar]

  On 11/4/2024 at 2:46 AM, john donson said:

 

that is BIDEN on the left, correct?

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This is what is known as the 'I'm rubber, you're glue' defense.

Worked well in 3rd grade. Not as effective with adults.
 

864511524  (By the way, that's tomorrow.)

[harryviking]

The US of A is an underdeveloped third world country. Nothing makes sense there any more.🙄

[newnative]

Let The Big Lie, 2024 edition, begin.  

[pattayasan]

  On 11/4/2024 at 3:17 AM, newnative said:

Let The Big Lie, 2024 edition, begin.  

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I thought you supported Trump? Did the dems promulgate a big lie in a past election or something?

[bubblegum]

  On 11/3/2024 at 12:30 PM, gamb00ler said:

 

and you would be called Canadian and be spending loonies!   555

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nope wrong continent.

[gamb00ler]

  On 11/4/2024 at 2:16 AM, FolkGuitar said:

What is funny about a man who steals from sick children?

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I think many of those members adding the laughing emoji, are really laughing at the nonsensical bent of the poster,  not at the subject matter of the post.  Sometimes I can't help but do the same thing.

[Yagoda]

  On 11/4/2024 at 3:04 AM, harryviking said:

The US of A is an underdeveloped third world country. Nothing makes sense there any more.🙄

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Well if you have ever been to a village in Alaska or a holler in WV, you might even still find outhouses.